Sounds like a crazy aggressive table. I bet jh was the biggest bully. He is the toughest player I've played at that level. Still wondering the results of your previous hands doohhhhh. Well done on your winning session. You play PLO the right way, will get better with more experience and improved hand reading of PLO. Posted by Poisen
He was making the pots big yea! Think he was frustrated that there was no action above 10/20p.
Was critical of my play when I rivered the 2nd nuts, which was a straight, and checked back the river. But he agreed with me that if I bet there are no worse hands that he calls me with.
So I can only imagine he was planning a check raise all in to take me off the hand. Which would have worked! Hence my check.
The hands...I won hands 1 and 2 and lost 3 and 4.
The first one I was up against 2 flush draws, they held eachothers outs. 1 guy had a bad gutshot too.
second hand I called and got there to crack AA or KK, cnt remember which. They just had the overpair tho nothing else.
Hand 3, Greeky had the nuts!
Hand 4, I called and bricked out, the guy had top pair and a decent flush draw. I was in pretty bad shape there.
Thnx for posting, still up for those HU SNGs soon!
What a great night yesterday was. Great fun, great bluffs and so many regs at the Omaha tables. Loved it. I guess we have to do that again soon. Posted by GreekWay
+1, it looked like everything was winding down about 11-30 then it all got going again!
I was a silent stalker on the tables last night and watching you lot going at it was very entertaining. I would have loved to join in but just aint rolled for it GL with the plo Doh and great diary btw. Posted by Darntootin
ty DT!
Out of interest, how many buy ins would you need to be comfortable sitting @ 10/20p?
Not something I've really thought about as I always play wayyyyy within my bankroll, but how many buy ins would some of the more serious PLO players need?
After playing only a few sessions, and seeing how easily money flies in, I'd imagine it's north of 100 buy ins!
What's happened to the PLO4 games btw, I would play these alot during the afternoon if I could.
you sure this is isnt isildur vs trickett?;-) Looks good. if only I was good at PLO. spose I could watch some vids on dc and join the spew Posted by percival09
Get yourself in the game son!
You crush everything you play so you'd prob make a fortune at this too.
I'd love to join in the PLO fun. Don't want to spew off my roll that I'm building ATM. Maybe get a stars home game going? Posted by splashies
Was gonna suggest exactly that!!
If you lot are online tonight, get a couple of $2 PLO SnGs going tonight on stars and I'll join in. Got a habit of winning JJ's homegames
@Greg - About the hand you posted above... I know very little about PLO cash, but why/how did you 4bet pre and then not bet the flop. I dunno how it changes between NLHE and PLO but if I 4bet, I'm never checkin the flop unless I have some decent showdown value that I don't wanna get raised off but probably can't get value with.
In Response to Re: "Sit & DOHHHHHHH Diary" : Get yourself in the game son! You crush everything you play so you'd prob make a fortune at this too. Sauce ftw tho! Posted by DOHHHHHHH
wait. u referring to my sauce-free veg stir frys? :-(
In Response to Re: "Sit & DOHHHHHHH Diary" : He was making the pots big yea! Think he was frustrated that there was no action above 10/20p. Was critical of my play when I rivered the 2nd nuts, which was a straight, and checked back the river. But he agreed with me that if I bet there are no worse hands that he calls me with. So I can only imagine he was planning a check raise all in to take me off the hand. Which would have worked! Hence my check. The hands...I won hands 1 and 2 and lost 3 and 4. The first one I was up against 2 flush draws, they held eachothers outs. 1 guy had a bad gutshot too. second hand I called and got there to crack AA or KK, cnt remember which. They just had the overpair tho nothing else. Hand 3, Greeky had the nuts! Hand 4, I called and bricked out, the guy had top pair and a decent flush draw. I was in pretty bad shape there. Thnx for posting, still up for those HU SNGs soon! Posted by DOHHHHHHH
I agree with you not worth betting if no worse hands call! Thanks for posting results. Looking forward to seeing some more hands!
Im well up for some heads up sngs, I will return the favour and play nl holdem aswell so it is a fair fight! Im pretty bad at holdem tho!
In Response to Re: "Sit & DOHHHHHHH Diary" : Dohhhh is obsessed with what ppl eat He gets mardy when i dont tell him what i had for dinner #wierdo Posted by GREGHOGG
lololol.
He isn't asking much anymore. Think he's bored cos I always gave him the same answer. lol
In Response to Re: "Sit & DOHHHHHHH Diary" : I got it out of him.... Was sausage and chips from the chippy. Without any gravy, peas, beans, or curry sauce. Sh !t keeps getting weirder! Posted by DOHHHHHHH
I'm not a big one for sides and sauces as Doh knows... but gotta get some curry sauce from a chippy
In Response to Re: "Sit & DOHHHHHHH Diary" : I agree with you not worth betting if no worse hands call! Thanks for posting results. Looking forward to seeing some more hands! Im well up for some heads up sngs, I will return the favour and play nl holdem aswell so it is a fair fight! Im pretty bad at holdem tho! Posted by Poisen
As it caused some debate, I thought it might be a good hand to post?
Looking back, the pot wasn't as big as I thought it was.
He's extremely aggressive as you know though, and he could well check/bomb the river and put me in a horrid spot.
Do you like a bet? and if so, are we bet/folding or bet/calling off? How big?
In Response to Re: "Sit & DOHHHHHHH Diary" : As it caused some debate, I thought it might be a good hand to post? Looking back, the pot wasn't as big as I thought it was. He's extremely aggressive as you know though, and he could well check/bomb the river and put me in a horrid spot. Do you like a bet? and if so, are we bet/folding or bet/calling off? How big? Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance GREGHOGG Small blind £0.10 £0.10 £47.32 IDONKCALLU Big blind £0.20 £0.30 £27.85 Your hole cards 8 10 4 J jh16 Raise £0.60 £0.90 £19.40 SKAGS Fold DOHHHHHHH Call £0.60 £1.50 £28.66 GreekWay Fold GREGHOGG Fold IDONKCALLU Fold Flop 5 9 Q jh16 Check DOHHHHHHH Bet £1.20 £2.70 £27.46 jh16 Call £1.20 £3.90 £18.20 Turn 7 jh16 Check DOHHHHHHH Bet £3.00 £6.90 £24.46 jh16 Call £3.00 £9.90 £15.20 River J jh16 Check DOHHHHHHH Check jh16 Show 5 Q 4 A DOHHHHHHH Show 8 10 4 J DOHHHHHHH Win Straight to the Queen £9.40 £33.86 Posted by DOHHHHHHH
I think worse hands might call you in this spot as they may put you on a busted flush draw. I think bet river and fold to a shove is probably the best play. But the problem is jh is the only player at this level who will bluff raise river. Still if you don't want to be predictable betting is the best option.
We should start an omaha thread in the forum instead of hijacking Dohhh's diary. It seems that the number of regs in Omaha tables is getting bigger and bigger. Come on boys.
@Greekway - Obv don't mind you posting here but you can start something else if you like.
Not sure I share your optimism about the tables getting better. I dunno what they were like before but I had a look at 11-30 last night and there was 1 player waiting at £1/2 HU, and 3 people playing 5p/10p. Nothing else!
Maybe just a slow night? But it was Saturday, so quite worrying.
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Obv I've woken up this morning and I wanna play!!
Thought I might end up having the full weekend off but it's so addictive. Not even about the money either, I'd be happy playing small stakes all day, it's chilled out and alot of fun learning a new game. This is what it used to be like when I first started NLHE, I wanted to play all the time. The more I learnt, the better I got, but the less I enjoyed it.
Anyway, homegame. Gotta be careful what I say here I guess but theres a 'group' elsewhere where I can set up my own games, design structures and buy ins and start times etc.
Gonna play a few this afternoon, will be small buy ins. If anyone is interested in joining and having a game send me a PM. We play all sorts of stuff, but today is obvs gonna start with PLOOOOOOO
I'm sure mods will edit that if it's naughty, but they can leave this bit in "PM ME IF YOU WANNA PLAY IN MY HOMEGAME"
About 25 regulars in it, obv not all online at same time but they're similar to the forum games people have on here.
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I've not had a bet in ages.....
Fancy a Sunderland (2/1!!!!!!!) and Everton double today.
My PLO experiment is not going well so far, I've been on the wrong end every single time I've played for stacks.
Get it in pre AKKJds vs AQJ8ds and lose. 2/1 fav, so pretty far ahead for PLO.
Get it in with KKxx on K high flop, villain has AA and turns an ace.
Hoggers turning the nut house when I flop the nut flush and kept barreling. (That one definitely was optimistic/bad play)
And then this gem:
Player
Action
Cards
Amount
Pot
Balance
GREGHOGG
Small blind
£0.05
£0.05
£9.45
SKAGS
Big blind
£0.10
£0.15
£10.66
Your hole cards
A
3
A
9
Giant811
Call
£0.10
£0.25
£14.08
kickerBG
Call
£0.10
£0.35
£8.74
dogcharlie
Raise
£0.40
£0.75
£20.76
pearson714
Fold
GREGHOGG
Fold
SKAGS
Fold
Giant811
Call
£0.30
£1.05
£13.78
kickerBG
Fold
Flop
9
8
K
Giant811
Check
dogcharlie
Check
Turn
K
Giant811
Check
dogcharlie
Check
River
A
Giant811
Bet
£0.80
£1.85
£12.98
dogcharlie
Raise
£3.45
£5.30
£17.31
Giant811
Raise
£10.60
£15.90
£2.38
dogcharlie
All-in
£17.31
£33.21
£0.00
Giant811
All-in
£2.38
£35.59
£0.00
dogcharlie
Unmatched bet
£6.98
£28.61
£6.98
Giant811
Show
A
3
A
9
dogcharlie
Show
4
K
J
K
dogcharlie
Win
Four Kings
£27.91
£34.89
I just couldn't fanthom that someone would slow play a set on a somewhat drawy board, and obv once the second K comes it's less likely he has 2. Ofc he has quads and I river 1 of 2 cards that will lose me money. Cheers Sky! I'm sure variance will even itself out. Just like it does in MTTs. Ha ha ha
In the long run is flatting his raise here with the second nuts better, or will they show up with AK or worse enough to make stacking off profitable?
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If you lot are online tonight, get a couple of $2 PLO SnGs going tonight on stars and I'll join in. Got a habit of winning JJ's homegames
@Greg - About the hand you posted above... I know very little about PLO cash, but why/how did you 4bet pre and then not bet the flop. I dunno how it changes between NLHE and PLO but if I 4bet, I'm never checkin the flop unless I have some decent showdown value that I don't wanna get raised off but probably can't get value with.
#weirdo
I agree with you not worth betting if no worse hands call! Thanks for posting results. Looking forward to seeing some more hands!
Im well up for some heads up sngs, I will return the favour and play nl holdem aswell so it is a fair fight! Im pretty bad at holdem tho!
As it caused some debate, I thought it might be a good hand to post?
Looking back, the pot wasn't as big as I thought it was.
He's extremely aggressive as you know though, and he could well check/bomb the river and put me in a horrid spot.
Do you like a bet? and if so, are we bet/folding or bet/calling off? How big?
Cheers,
Doug
Worst intro of all time btw??? ^^^^ lol!
About 25 regulars in it, obv not all online at same time but they're similar to the forum games people have on here.
In the long run is flatting his raise here with the second nuts better, or will they show up with AK or worse enough to make stacking off profitable?