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Rancid and his Roll 2011 - (Diary of a losing recreational player making good)

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  • edited November 2011
    EDIT:


    Not a very good day, getting beaten by everything - seemed like I could not win a hand
    oppo's turning up with sets, quads, str's, flushes on the river - you name it

    o well back to the grind, try and get it back up
    At least the hours put in got me over 2000 C4P +£30 for month when it comes

    17/11/2011 Starting roll £437 
    C4P 1237

    -
    Current roll £430
    C4P 2036
  • edited November 2011
    good read rani,played you anumber of times on nl/4,and lost to you too many times.i know you will succeed at reaching the higher levels,it,s just a matter of time...good luck buddy.hopefully i won,t be too far behind you!as a matter of interest i,m having a break from cash playing dym,s 4 the last 3 weeks..doing well £45 up!so not in any hurry to return!cheers buddy
  • edited November 2011
    In Response to Re: Rancid and his Roll (Diary of a losing recreational player):
    Not a very good day, getting beaten by everything - seemed like I could not win a hand oppo's turning up with sets, quads, str's, flushes on the river o well back to the grind, try and get it back up At least the hours put in got me closer to the 2000 C4P mark 17/11/2011 Starting roll £437   C4P 1237 - Current roll  £430 C4P  1967
    Posted by rancid

     Could have been worse, nice recovery from -30. I should have gone to bed when i said instead of sticking around for the value that arrived and donating to your cause lol. GG 
  • edited November 2011

    Great read Rancid. I can totally relate to your story – I used to deposit money into my account as and when I needed or wanted to with little or no consideration to BRM.

    Similar to you, I'd like to get up to a level where I'm rolled to play decent MTTs but realise cash is probably the best way to get there – and least susceptible to variance – and I've always had reasonable success at it.

    So, earlier this year I decided to deposit £25 and stick to a BRM structure, based on advice I have read on the forum. I moved up to NL8 after reaching £180 and now have £275 but am a little unsure of when I should be looking to move up again.

    I play two tables at a time and had aimed to reach £300 before going up to NL10, which I felt was quite conservative. But, if I was to adhere to the ‘never have more than 5% of your bankroll in play at a time’ guide, I’d need to have £320 in my bankroll.

    This seems to me to be extremely nitty and not very realistic for lower stakes players.
    Was interested to see what sort of BRM structure players at these stakes use or what others suggest?

    Good luck in reaching the higger levels Rancid. Played you quite a few times and always found you a tough oppo!

  • edited November 2011
    hi rani.how did it go 2nite 4u on £2.25 dym,s ?i played 43 games...won 29 lost 14...profit £19.25 not a bad nite,s fun.great thing also is there just isn,t the same risk factor like there is in cash..ie.if you go all-in say with kk or even aa and lose(which does happen quite often as you know),the max you lose each time is just the buy in(£2.25).where as in cash losing those all-in,s can be alot more expensive and ultimately will to a large extent determine your loss/profit for the nite,i think!anyway,that,s enough from me so i,ll wish you a good nite and no doubt see you soon...cheers buddy i,ll keep in touch buddy,if that,s ok with you...present balance after 2nite is £274.92..total winning,s(withdrawn £300)=£574.92...started playing on line last summer
  • edited November 2011
    I am offically in a place called area 51, I am joing them folk because I can't beleive the last two days.
    I have had this before and just cant' seem to win a hand and I just know what's coming on the turn or river.
    I have faith this will turn around because my spots are +ev.
    The last hand I will play for at least 24hr's is below  ) Totaly awful feeling this is :()

    From 470 - down to 400 in two days

    17/11/2011 Starting roll £437 
    C4P 1237

    -
    Current roll £403
    C4P 2000 +



    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    GTX Small blind   £0.04 £0.04 £11.09
    kilo05 Big blind   £0.08 £0.12 £11.38
      Your hole cards
    • K
    • K
         
    rancid Raise   £0.32 £0.44 £6.70
    00gee Fold        
    tburns7506 Fold        
    Douglo Call   £0.32 £0.76 £4.53
    GTX Fold        
    kilo05 Fold        
    Flop
       
    • J
    • 9
    • 2
         
    rancid Bet   £0.38 £1.14 £6.32
    Douglo Raise   £1.14 £2.28 £3.39
    rancid All-in   £6.32 £8.60 £0.00
    Douglo All-in   £3.39 £11.99 £0.00
    rancid Unmatched bet   £2.17 £9.82 £2.17
    rancid Show
    • K
    • K
         
    Douglo Show
    • 7
    • 9
         
    Turn
       
    • A
         
    River
       
    • 7
         
    Douglo Win Two Pairs, 9s and 7s £9.08   £9.08
  • edited November 2011
    been there got the t-shirt rani.take a few day,s off come back fresh and you,ll be "right as rain"
  • edited December 2011
    Nothing much to report, pretty much break even session of cash/mtt/dym

    17/11/2011 Starting roll £437 
    C4P 1237

    -
    Current roll £401
    C4P 2000 + for November so £30 bonus due )

    current C4P 40

    roll on December, hopefully a better cash playing  month than last month
    Some run good please, I think I am due some.
  • edited December 2011
    Have not updated for couple of days
    Didn't play Thursday
    Played Friday - played 7 DYM's, W 5, L2
    Finished 8th in the mini open, last 15 and I am chip leader and go card dead and nothing got through at all
    Exit hand, I am sitting in last spot on the BB with A8 (10 bigs), raise from the btn for the third time in one orbit and I shove and btn calls showing AA!!! How do they turn up with these hands :)
    cheers, thanks - I played overall really good and thought I could win this - only to fall down in the later stages - annoying :)(

    Played some NL8/10 after, turned flush all in got beat by a rivered better flush and my AA got cracked in a three way all in on the flop by K9s - god dam flushes

    The night could of been so much better

    anyhow
    17/11/2011 Starting roll £437 

    -
    Current roll £419
    C4P 90
  • edited December 2011
    update Sunday 8pm - Just can't stop losing in cash :)(
    Is it so possible to play the same and win and lose

    Playing NL8/10 and I am not sure wtf is going on lol
    Going to play mini primo and some NL8 tonight
    See how I get on



    17/11/2011 Starting roll £437 

    -
    Current roll £362
    C4P  200
  • edited December 2011

    Dumped out of mini primo - AIPR - AKvAJ  oppo hit trips on flop -- gg nh

    Played some NL8, could of gone better - but not so bad at least it was a positive session
    GG Greghogg )


    17/11/2011 Starting roll £437 

    -
    Current roll £387
    C4P  282
  • edited December 2011

    445841264

    think that hand was the key to your session

    wp enjoyed the battle. feel free to post it i cba



    Another hand...
    445816662 - fml, why do i try to bluff people without fold buttons! :)
  • edited December 2011
    Never bluff stations Gregg )
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    wull799 Small blind   £0.04 £0.04 £5.35
    rancid Big blind   £0.08 £0.12 £12.31
      Your hole cards
    • A
    • 9
         
    GREGHOGG Raise   £0.24 £0.36 £17.15
    SALSACITY Fold        
    MP33 Fold        
    g8s8m9 Fold        
    wull799 Fold        
    rancid Call   £0.16 £0.52 £12.15
    Flop
       
    • 3
    • 7
    • 7
         
    rancid Check        
    GREGHOGG Bet   £0.32 £0.84 £16.83
    rancid Call   £0.32 £1.16 £11.83
    Turn
       
    • A
         
    rancid Check        
    GREGHOGG Bet   £0.80 £1.96 £16.03
    rancid Call   £0.80 £2.76 £11.03
    River
       
    • 4
         
    rancid Check        
    GREGHOGG Bet   £2.80 £5.56 £13.23
    rancid Call   £2.80 £8.36 £8.23
    GREGHOGG Show
    • Q
    • K
         
    rancid Show
    • A
    • 9
         
    rancid Win Two Pairs, Aces and 7s £7.73   £15.96
  • edited December 2011
    Flop lucky, run better
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    GREGHOGG Small blind   £0.04 £0.04 £11.88
    rancid Big blind   £0.08 £0.12 £11.84
      Your hole cards
    • 9
    • 7
         
    pug_man Raise   £0.24 £0.36 £4.88
    GREGHOGG Call   £0.20 £0.56 £11.68
    rancid Call   £0.16 £0.72 £11.68
    Flop
       
    • 8
    • 5
    • 6
         
    GREGHOGG Check        
    rancid Bet   £0.54 £1.26 £11.14
    pug_man Call   £0.54 £1.80 £4.34
    GREGHOGG Raise   £2.30 £4.10 £9.38
    rancid Raise   £4.69 £8.79 £6.45
    pug_man Fold        
    GREGHOGG All-in   £9.38 £18.17 £0.00
    rancid All-in   £6.45 £24.62 £0.00
    GREGHOGG Show
    • 5
    • 5
         
    rancid Show
    • 9
    • 7
         
    Turn
       
    • 2
         
    River
       
    • 9
         
    rancid Win Straight to the 9 £23.22   £23.22
  • edited December 2011
    Update

    No cash tonight, decided to play the Forum DTD

    Really need a break from Cash )
    Doing well at the start of a session and then I do this, like what am I thinking ?
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    TheRat1 Small blind   £0.04 £0.04 £3.49
    rancid Big blind   £0.08 £0.12 £24.38
      Your hole cards
    • 9
    • 9
         
    pingu346 Call   £0.08 £0.20 £4.86
    GREGHOGG Call   £0.08 £0.28 £10.52
    Strider_78 Fold        
    TheRat1 Call   £0.04 £0.32 £3.45
    rancid Raise   £0.32 £0.64 £24.06
    pingu346 Call   £0.32 £0.96 £4.54
    GREGHOGG Call   £0.32 £1.28 £10.20
    TheRat1 Fold        
    Flop
       
    • 6
    • 6
    • 7
         
    rancid Bet   £0.64 £1.92 £23.42
    pingu346 Call   £0.64 £2.56 £3.90
    GREGHOGG Fold        
    Turn
       
    • K
         
    rancid Bet   £1.28 £3.84 £22.14
    pingu346 Raise   £2.56 £6.40 £1.34
    rancid All-in   £22.14 £28.54 £0.00
    pingu346 All-in   £1.34 £29.88 £0.00
    rancid Unmatched bet   £19.52 £10.36 £19.52
    rancid Show
    • 9
    • 9
         
    pingu346 Show
    • 6
    • 5
         
    River
       
    • 5
         
    pingu346 Win Full House, 6s and 5s £9.58   £9.58
  • edited December 2011
    In Response to Re: Rancid and his Roll (Diary of a losing recreational player):
    Update No cash tonight, decided to play the Forum DTD Really need a break from Cash )
    Posted by rancid
    Greg needs you to take a break too :)))

    "pointless trying to bluff Rancid" haaaaaaaaaaaaaa
  • edited December 2011
    In Response to Re: Rancid and his Roll (Diary of a losing recreational player):
    In Response to Re: Rancid and his Roll (Diary of a losing recreational player) : Greg needs you to take a break too :))) "pointless trying to bluff Rancid" haaaaaaaaaaaaaa
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    lol

    Was funny, we was on two tables together - at one point he bunny hoped to get postion on me )
    Maybe I was 3 betting him too much :D
    Then he gets lucky :p
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    MP33 Small blind   £0.04 £0.04 £7.88
    TheRat1 Big blind   £0.08 £0.12 £3.87
      Your hole cards
    • Q
    • Q
         
    Jaypee61 Fold        
    shark11 Fold        
    GREGHOGG Raise   £0.32 £0.44 £7.84
    rancid Raise   £1.04 £1.48 £12.26
    MP33 Fold        
    TheRat1 Fold        
    GREGHOGG All-in   £7.84 £9.32 £0.00
    rancid Call   £7.12 £16.44 £5.14
    GREGHOGG Show
    • K
    • A
         
    rancid Show
    • Q
    • Q
         
    Flop
       
    • K
    • 7
    • 8
         
    Turn
       
    • 8
         
    River
       
    • 9
         
    GREGHOGG Win Two Pairs, Kings and 8s £15.20   £15.20
  • edited December 2011
    Just read thru bits of this!!

    But Great opening Post, & great idea!!

    GL, & Nice Focus Sir!!

    Will look in more!

    ps Run Golden & Beware The GreggMonster!!
  • edited December 2011
    update

    played a little cash in the day, BR sinking down to £373

    Played DTD, signed up with the Hitsquad team and ended up binking a 4th place
    Takes me back above £400

    But again could have been better but you can not stop oppo bad calling and getting lucky can you :D

    17/11/2011 Starting roll £437
    -
    Current roll £407
    C4P  300
  • edited December 2011
    more or less Exit hand from the totty - I think I should have just c/r shove flop but o well
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    auds Small blind   50.00 50.00 2497.50
    rancid Big blind   100.00 150.00 3310.00
      Your hole cards
    • A
    • 2
         
    lee100 Fold        
    Hellobaby Call   100.00 250.00 2042.50
    penguin7 Fold        
    POKERTREV Fold        
    auds Call   50.00 300.00 2447.50
    rancid Check        
    Flop
       
    • 5
    • 3
    • K
         
    auds Check        
    rancid Check        
    Hellobaby Bet   225.00 525.00 1817.50
    auds Fold        
    rancid Call   225.00 750.00 3085.00
    Turn
       
    • 5
         
    rancid Check        
    Hellobaby Bet   562.50 1312.50 1255.00
    rancid Call   562.50 1875.00 2522.50
    River
       
    • 6
         
    rancid Bet   1406.25 3281.25 1116.25
    Hellobaby All-in   1255.00 4536.25 0.00
    rancid Unmatched bet   151.25 4385.00 1267.50
    rancid Show
    • A
    • 2
         
    Hellobaby Show
    • 3
    • 3
         
    Hellobaby Win Full House, 3s and 5s 4385.00   4385.00
  • edited December 2011
    In Response to Re: Rancid and his Roll (Diary of a losing recreational player):
    update played a little cash in the day, BR sinking down to £373 Played DTD, signed up with the Hitsquad team and ended up binking a 4th place Takes me back above £400 But again could have been better but you can not stop oppo bad calling and getting lucky can you :D 17/11/2011 Starting roll £437 - Current roll  £407 C4P  300
    Posted by rancid
    WP Mate!! welcome to The Squad Comrade!!
  • edited December 2011
    Poker is a cruel game
    Short stacked and loving QQ pre and when the cards flipped over
    looooooooooooooooool------- /> />>>>
    exit hand from tonights Mini Open
    I could done things with taht stack :S
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    rancid Small blind   75.00 75.00 1150.00
    macapaca Big blind   150.00 225.00 3757.50
      Your hole cards
    • Q
    • Q
         
    sjt333 All-in   2450.00 2675.00 0.00
    STEELCHRIS Fold        
    HighAce940 All-in   2685.00 5360.00 0.00
    DonGaz Fold        
    rancid All-in   1150.00 6510.00 0.00
    macapaca Fold        
    HighAce940 Unmatched bet   235.00 6275.00 235.00
    rancid Show
    • Q
    • Q
         
    sjt333 Show
    • K
    • Q
         
    HighAce940 Show
    • A
    • K
         
    Flop
       
    • Q
    • 4
    • 10
         
    Turn
       
    • J
         
    River
       
    • A
         
    sjt333 Win Straight to the Ace 3137.50   3137.50
    HighAce940 Win Straight to the Ace 3137.50   3372.50
  • edited December 2011
    I play MTT/STT/CASH/DYM using one BR, while recording my progress for each format

    Here is my DYM trial from the 1st Dec

    I don't love DYM's as they seem to be a massive grind for little return, apart from the C4P
    I played them in the past break even just  for c4p
    But I am going to give them some effort this month, if I can stop making MTT/STT moves in these then I should be fine

    Following the 20 buy in rule
    Need to hit £50 before I step up to £2.20 DYM's

    £25 starting BR,

    Played 25
    cashed 17
    bummed 8
    c4p ?
    +£5.25

    I'll update this as and when I play some more
  • edited December 2011
    Update -

    £1 DYM
    PLAYED MONEY IN CASHED OUT DIFF LOST C4P START BR CURRENT BR win perc
    28 £32.20 20 £40.00 £7.80 8 ?
    £25.00 £32.80 71.43%
    MTT

    Played mini open - bummed out

    BR
    17/11/2011 Starting roll £437
    -
    Current roll £411
    C4P  337
  • edited December 2011
    Good luck with them mate, hope you get some early run good :).
  • edited December 2011
    Played little NL4/8/20

    Played one hand on NL20 for the GROTTO promotion and flopped 2nd nut str
    Never got any action though :(
    Then next hand picked up AA, no action - then stood

    Lost 2 bi's - not great :(


    DYM Update
    PLAYED MONEY IN CASHED OUT DIFF LOST C4P START BR CURRENT BR win perc
    39 £44.85 27 £54.00 £9.15 12 78 £25.00 £34.15 69.23%
    BR

    17/11/2011 Starting roll £437
    -
    Current roll £432
    C4P  366
  • edited December 2011
    Played a little NL4/10, up two buy ins at NL4 then lost them at NL10 - str v FH & TPTK v Set !!!

    Played some DYM, standing win percentage of 70% - going ok

    Finished 3rd in a £2 BH MTT,I was 3rd on FT then my internet went, back to table 20 minutes later and there's only 3 left and I have 5 bb, SIGH!!! But my first hand was AA but no action lol
    I have tweaked some of my MTT game in all stages and it appears to be working.
    But it could also be just some run good )

    I have also been reading up on expected value just to look at hands after and access 
    Hopefully it will correct some leaks/bad plays in my game, or just improve my current game as you can always get better


    BR

    17/11/2011 Starting roll £437 
    -
    Current roll £476
    C4P  436

  • edited December 2011

    Not updated for a couple of days, registered for the DTD this evening so should be fun !

     

    Been playing SAT/MTT, not much joy – bubbled in one MTT AKvAJ – J on river – SIGH !

    Kept myself afloat with some NL8 cash mainly

    Not played anymore DYM, can’t be asked !

    So many games for such little reward and I am sure I can win more money playing cash !! I guess I just want to see if I can do something with DYM’s

    Maybe I’ll move up to £5.50 and see if it’s worth it !!

     

    BR

    17/11/2011 Starting roll £437 

    -

    Current roll £472

    C4P  522

  • edited December 2011
    Update

    DYM
    Moved onto £2 level because the £1 level was just seriously bad !
    Found £2 level even worse tonight, maybe I am just running hot !
    DYM £ PLAYED MONEY IN CASHED OUT DIFF LOST START BR CURRENT BR win perc
    1.15 
    46 £52.90 31 £62.00 £9.10 15 £25.00 £34.10 67.39%
    2.25
    11 £24.75 9 £36.00 £11.25 2 £34.10 £45.35 81.82%
    Played some MTT/SAT - nothing doing, made it up in cash after a -3bi start to the session :()
    Need to bink in an MTT or dedicate sometime to playing high volumne cash to get my BR moving again---------------------------------------- />>> onwards and upwards - variance be good !!
    Going to keep plouging on and when I've had enough of £2 DYM, I'll move up to £3 and so on - or maybe just hit a downswing and lose the lot :D

    BR

    17/11/2011 Starting roll £437 

    -

    Current roll £476

    C4P  658


  • edited December 2011
    In Response to Re: Rancid and his Roll (Diary of a losing recreational player):
    Update DYM Moved onto £2 level because the £1 level was just seriously bad ! Found £2 level even worse tonight, maybe I am just running hot ! DYM £ PLAYED MONEY IN CASHED OUT DIFF LOST START BR CURRENT BR win perc 1.15  46 £52.90 31 £62.00 £9.10 15 £25.00 £34.10 67.39% 2.25 11 £24.75 9 £36.00 £11.25 2 £34.10 £45.35 81.82% Played some MTT/SAT - nothing doing, made it up in cash after a -3bi start to the session :() Need to bink in an MTT or dedicate sometime to playing high volumne cash to get my BR moving again---------------------------------------- /> />> onwards and upwards - variance be good !! Going to keep plouging on and when I've had enough of £2 DYM, I'll move up to £3 and so on - or maybe just hit a downswing and lose the lot :D BR 17/11/2011 Starting roll £437  - Current roll £476 C4P  658
    Posted by rancid
    Greghogg ^_^
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