I love winning big pots/games against idiots like this. I sat down for this one, said my usual 'good luck', I just have to say it at the start of every game, then he says, yeah you're gonna need it, then 2nd hand of the game this happens I love these guys!
Player
Action
Cards
Amount
Pot
Balance
gyginner05
Small blind
10.00
10.00
1000.00
Lambert180
Big blind
20.00
30.00
970.00
Your hole cards
8
8
gyginner05
Raise
30.00
60.00
970.00
Lambert180
Raise
80.00
140.00
890.00
gyginner05
Call
60.00
200.00
910.00
Flop
6
4
4
Lambert180
Bet
150.00
350.00
740.00
gyginner05
Call
150.00
500.00
760.00
Turn
2
Lambert180
Bet
375.00
875.00
365.00
gyginner05
All-in
760.00
1635.00
0.00
Lambert180
All-in
365.00
2000.00
0.00
gyginner05
Unmatched bet
20.00
1980.00
20.00
gyginner05
Show
2
8
Lambert180
Show
8
8
River
10
Lambert180
Win
Two Pairs, 8s and 4s
1980.00
1980.00
I took his last few chips by picking up JJ the next hand and him having 52
Only got a few games in this morning cos I've been busy doing other stuff, so I won 5 and lost 2 for a £2.65 profit. Felt really easy today, was playing against some truly terrible opponents. One guy must have been confused and thought we were 10-handed, he just folded the button non-stop and folded to my button raise every time (no he was not away lol) Stats Won 19 Lost 13 Profit +£4.40
Well I was only calling a rejam from PokerTrev on 10BB or if Fredgirls decided to put he rest in (think she only had 3-4BB and 1 was in for the BB). Was happy to play a pot with robbie, as I did a few times. Snap fold to Yidette who has 60k so is never gonna flat.
Then obv, on the flop, I had a gutshot as a back up and thought I could make him fold some biggers Aces, KQ, and KJ (I know I'm ahead to KQ and KJ but happy to just take the pot down) which I figured was most of his range. I can't imagine him ever flatting a PP from 2s to Js with his stack, so my thinking was he either has a very big PP or more often than not, one of the hands that I can make fold. Is my thinking flawed here?
Not a great session today. I felt like I ran mega mega bad, lost about 2 games early in the session down to tilt, but got back on track, and continued to run horribly. I finished down for the day but it could have been worse and hopefully I can start afresh tomorrow. Stats Won 50 Lost 49 Profit -£3.95
Feel like I'm back to my old game today (and running a bit better), I was saying to Doh yesterday that I think I'd lost some of my aggroness yesterday because of how I was running. Won 5/6 so far this morning, let's hope I can keep it up while you're watching me later Doh.
Gonna play that HU shuffle tourney in a bit though
Played that HU Shuffle trial and managed to come 5th out of 124 to cash for £3.65 but I won't be including that in my HU profit for today. So as it stands, I've won 5/6 so far today so, will give updated stats here and then again later once I've played tonight. Stats Won 55 Lost 50 Profit: -£0.25
Played you a couple of times yesterday and contributed to your run bad, my AJ beating your JJ all in pre lol!! Was wondering what sort of win rate you feel is achievable at the micro stakes HU games over a large sample and do you think its a better way to build a roll than grinding NL4??
Hi Lambert Played you a couple of times yesterday and contributed to your run bad, my AJ beating your JJ all in pre lol!! Was wondering what sort of win rate you feel is achievable at the micro stakes HU games over a large sample and do you think its a better way to build a roll than grinding NL4?? GL with the games Posted by WINKY911
I think I'll let Dohhhhhh give you a better answer (he pops in on my thread) but they're definitely fairly easy to win at. A while ago when my BR was better I was playing the £3.15 games, and I played abuot 700 games in a month and was about £60 up. I think about 5% ROI is pretty easy at low levels so if you play 500 games (£1.05) so you've invested £525, you should make about £25 quid ish profit.
You can also earn poker points alot faster. That shouldn't be a big consideration because you'll make alot more money by just winning but just grinding 4NL alone, you'd have to play ALOT to scrape to get 500 points. These are alot easier to rack up the points.
I do think there's alot more profit to be made from the terrible play at 4NL but I just don't have the BR at the moment to be able to multi-table comfortable and 1 table is terribly boring at 4NL.
Anyway Dohhhh can give his thoughts on expected profits/ROIs from the micros cos he's the master.
Urgh that was a real grind, had JJ watch the first about 5-10 games (then he disappeared) so he got a little taster how I can get my opponent against the ropes regularly but am completely incapable of winning a race to finish them off. After JJ went, I started getting a bit butchered by outdraws, I won't bore you with them all but things like getting my opponent down to 800 v 200, getting it in with QJ v Q8 and losing.
(Will have to show you some HH JJ cos you won't believe the badness lol)
But I didn't give up, I kept playing well, ploughed through the stinky outdraws, managed to win about 5 or 6 in a row to get back to almost even, so in the end I won 14 and lost 15. All but 2 of them were turbos and I lost both my turbos as Doh saw. I'd love to see my winrate at these when I'm running even just close to normal. Stats Won 69 Lost 65 Profit -£2.70
On a completely non poker related topic... as some of you know, I recently stopped working for Bupa to move back down south with Emma, so I've been enjoying a few weeks out of work since I moved down, but I now have a job interview on Monday for a decent job. Maybe I'm saving up my run good for then
Been playing hypers again this morning, started off running pretty bad again, had someone down low in chips and got them all in 3 times in the same game when I was crushing (things like A8 v A3) and lost all 3 of them
But I cracked on again, played well and managed to come out with 11 wins and 8 losses for a £2.05 profit. I probably could have only fitted in about 7 turbos in the time I was playing too. Gonna get some more games in tonight I think but here's my stats so far Stats Won 80 Lost 72 Profit -£0.65
It's not mega important but I'm cruising to getting 500+ poker points which is actually 5 BIs for my level so it aint too bad
Forgot to update with last night's results. I played 8 and only won 3 so a loss of £2.40. So far played won 1, lost 1 this morning, will give updated stats when I finish playing for the morning.
Finally managed to watch that Derek which I'd Sky plussed and yeah just WTF. It was wierd to say the least... think the only time I laughed was when he ran through the home naked after falling in the pond. Maybe the odd thing that Karl said but that's just Karl.
Right I've finished my games for the morning... tried out a new strategy today and it's seemed to massively improve my game. Don't wanna give to much away but wouldn't mind having a chat with you JJ to see what you think of it. I could have been running better than I have been but I really don't think I was running that well, not picking up lots of strong hands, not flopping well more than you'd expect and didn't give any bad beats (didn't receive any either tho so that helps).
Anyway I won 7 out of the 9 I played this morning so that's £4.55 profit. So that combined with the losses I forgot to put up from last night make things like so... Stats Won 90 Lost 79 Profit +£1.50
Finally back in the black and feeling better about the tweaks I've made to my game. I'm on 392 poker points at the mo, so reckon I should get to 600-700 which I think it something like £6.50
Doh - What BR would you want to be playing £2.10 Hypers, I was thinking I'd wait til I got to about £60 but what dya think?
Just another quick session for tonight because I don't wanna hog the laptop from Emma. My new system for playing the hypers seems to be working an absolute charm. Just won 5 and lost 1 for a profit of £3.70 Stats Won 95 Lost 80 Profit +£5.20
Poker points: 398
Doh - Am guessing you can't single out particular games on SS? Like could you check win-rate/ROI for turbos and hypers seperately or do you have to lump them together?
Had a bit of a brutal session tonight, got off to a REALLY bad start where I just repeatedly got my oppo down low but just couldn't win a race to finish them off. Dohhhhh I really need to go through some HHs with you if you've got some time, cos I just wanna make sure that I am running bad and not just playing bad (I'm sure it's running).
I'd post a few hands up here, but I hate threads that are full of tons of hands, makes it look really messy (I'm Mr OCD). Maybe I'll stick 1 or 2 up tomorrow or just see if you're on msn.
Still down £7.25 for the session but it was worse. Stats Won 115 Lost 105 Profit -£2.05
Got a quick session in, nice to be in profit after my horrid run bad last night. Ran pretty bad at the start but then managed to bink a few lucky spots against a player I really respect (won't name names but you know who you are), by getting shoved on pre twice, once holding AK and once holding KK. Finished £3.20 up. Stats Won 125 Lost 111 Profit +£1.15
Poker Points: 464
I'm on easy street now to make the C4P and earn an extra 5-6 BIs for my level.
won't name names but you know who you are Posted by Lambert180
It was me!
For the record I was beaten 3-0, fair and square. The best man won. This diary is a great read, I'm one of the many lurkers who read every post, please keep up the good work.
Good luck with this and I'm looking forward to meeting up at Cardiff SPT.
Another quick few games in tonight, wasn't running so bad this time, won 4/5 for £2.75 profit. Stats Won 129 Lost 112 Profit +£3.90
Poker Points: 469
On a side note, I forgot to mention how my job interview went on Monday. Well I don't know yet, he's gonna be getting back to me by the end of this week, although it was shortlisted down to only 6 for interviews and I think it went really well, he seemed really impressed with all my experience. And for the first time in an interview, I managed to do what 'they' always suggest and dodged answering the question about what salary I want, which turned out quite well cos he offered slightly more than what I would have said. Fingers crossed.
Another really quick 'session' this morning, not sure it's even big enough to count as a session but I won 4/4 anyway. For my first game I found this guy who I scoped and had only played 5 SnGs on Sky and was already in a nice loss, he was a pretty awful player and I managed to get 2 rematches out of him before he'd had enough. Finally feeling like I'm running about EV. Stats Won 133 Lost 112 Profit +£7.70
You wanna lock up small profit after a good start? etc?
What's the longest session you've played on the hypers in terms of games?
Always use the 'M' word when bankroll building, but momentum is even more important when playing HU, if I was on a run of 4/4 wins, last thing I would wanna do is quit. At the very least, play on until you lose a game.....
Need to smash em while you're hottttttttttttttttt!
Yeah I know you're right, some of it is trying to lock up profits after a good start which I know makes no sense. The stupid thing is, the times I go on to play long sessions are when I'm losing.
I think my longest session of hypers has been about 40 odd, but they tend to be between 10-20 usually. Did try playing 2 at a go for a bit, but it didn't feel quite as comfortable and it was a losing session (whether that be through bad play or just runbad) so I've been sticking to 1tabling mostly.
But yeah I know you're definitely right about momentum, I've experienced enough negative momentum already.
DOHHHH's above post is very true. We're always told in poker to 'play for the long term' etc. and we can't cheat variance by only playing small winning sessions. If it's just time constraints then that's fair enough, but you should always try to play as many games as possible when we are in a good frame of mind and playing well. Your true ROI in hypers is always going to be very small (1-5% typically for winning players), so the only way we can amass decent profits is to put in as much volume as possible. C4P's (or other reward schemes) are the main benefit of hypers as they offer guaranteed income providing you put the volume in.
I agree with nearly everything you've said there nagrom, although I would say the main benefit of hypers is to make decent amounts of profit from the volume you put in.
I only started playing these on 15th April and so in 10 days have played abuot 250 and this is with what I would class as very small volume. I'm confident I could smash 1000 games most months. So if I'm making 5p per game (on average), then 1000 games is £50 profit, where as 1000 games would give me 1000 C4P which is less than a tenner.
But yeah, these are all abuot volume, volume, volume (when you're in the right frame of mind)
Decided to get a bit of a bigger session in tonight after your comments, not massive but yeah. Bit of a long slog, ended up winning 21 and losing 19 which makes me exactly break even lol... but at least I broke the 500 points barrier and am now earning money cash for every game played. Stats Won 154 Lost 131 Profit +£7.70
Poker Points: 513
I may have broke even tonight, but I'm now owed a whopping £4.10 in C4P
Nice, C4P makes a huge difference when you're playing a game which is only beatable with a small ROI; a 53% boost to your profit for the month in this case.
Comments
Stats
Won 19
Lost 13
Profit +£4.40
Gonna be getting in some more games tonight
Then obv, on the flop, I had a gutshot as a back up and thought I could make him fold some biggers Aces, KQ, and KJ (I know I'm ahead to KQ and KJ but happy to just take the pot down) which I figured was most of his range. I can't imagine him ever flatting a PP from 2s to Js with his stack, so my thinking was he either has a very big PP or more often than not, one of the hands that I can make fold. Is my thinking flawed here?
Stats
Won 50
Lost 49
Profit -£3.95
Gonna play that HU shuffle tourney in a bit though
Stats
Won 55
Lost 50
Profit: -£0.25
Played you a couple of times yesterday and contributed to your run bad, my AJ beating your JJ all in pre lol!!
Was wondering what sort of win rate you feel is achievable at the micro stakes HU games over a large sample and do you think its a better way to build a roll than grinding NL4??
GL with the games
You can also earn poker points alot faster. That shouldn't be a big consideration because you'll make alot more money by just winning but just grinding 4NL alone, you'd have to play ALOT to scrape to get 500 points. These are alot easier to rack up the points.
I do think there's alot more profit to be made from the terrible play at 4NL but I just don't have the BR at the moment to be able to multi-table comfortable and 1 table is terribly boring at 4NL.
Anyway Dohhhh can give his thoughts on expected profits/ROIs from the micros cos he's the master.
(Will have to show you some HH JJ cos you won't believe the badness lol)
But I didn't give up, I kept playing well, ploughed through the stinky outdraws, managed to win about 5 or 6 in a row to get back to almost even, so in the end I won 14 and lost 15. All but 2 of them were turbos and I lost both my turbos as Doh saw. I'd love to see my winrate at these when I'm running even just close to normal.
Stats
Won 69
Lost 65
Profit -£2.70
On a completely non poker related topic... as some of you know, I recently stopped working for Bupa to move back down south with Emma, so I've been enjoying a few weeks out of work since I moved down, but I now have a job interview on Monday for a decent job. Maybe I'm saving up my run good for then
But I cracked on again, played well and managed to come out with 11 wins and 8 losses for a £2.05 profit. I probably could have only fitted in about 7 turbos in the time I was playing too. Gonna get some more games in tonight I think but here's my stats so far
Stats
Won 80
Lost 72
Profit -£0.65
It's not mega important but I'm cruising to getting 500+ poker points which is actually 5 BIs for my level so it aint too bad
Finally managed to watch that Derek which I'd Sky plussed and yeah just WTF. It was wierd to say the least... think the only time I laughed was when he ran through the home naked after falling in the pond. Maybe the odd thing that Karl said but that's just Karl.
Anyway I won 7 out of the 9 I played this morning so that's £4.55 profit. So that combined with the losses I forgot to put up from last night make things like so...
Stats
Won 90
Lost 79
Profit +£1.50
Finally back in the black and feeling better about the tweaks I've made to my game. I'm on 392 poker points at the mo, so reckon I should get to 600-700 which I think it something like £6.50
Doh - What BR would you want to be playing £2.10 Hypers, I was thinking I'd wait til I got to about £60 but what dya think?
Stats
Won 95
Lost 80
Profit +£5.20
Poker points: 398
Doh - Am guessing you can't single out particular games on SS? Like could you check win-rate/ROI for turbos and hypers seperately or do you have to lump them together?
I'd post a few hands up here, but I hate threads that are full of tons of hands, makes it look really messy (I'm Mr OCD). Maybe I'll stick 1 or 2 up tomorrow or just see if you're on msn.
Still down £7.25 for the session but it was worse.
Stats
Won 115
Lost 105
Profit -£2.05
Stats
Won 125
Lost 111
Profit +£1.15
Poker Points: 464
I'm on easy street now to make the C4P and earn an extra 5-6 BIs for my level.
For the record I was beaten 3-0, fair and square. The best man won. This diary is a great read, I'm one of the many lurkers who read every post, please keep up the good work.
Good luck with this and I'm looking forward to meeting up at Cardiff SPT.
Stats
Won 129
Lost 112
Profit +£3.90
Poker Points: 469
On a side note, I forgot to mention how my job interview went on Monday. Well I don't know yet, he's gonna be getting back to me by the end of this week, although it was shortlisted down to only 6 for interviews and I think it went really well, he seemed really impressed with all my experience. And for the first time in an interview, I managed to do what 'they' always suggest and dodged answering the question about what salary I want, which turned out quite well cos he offered slightly more than what I would have said. Fingers crossed.
Stats
Won 133
Lost 112
Profit +£7.70
Poker Points: 473
I think my longest session of hypers has been about 40 odd, but they tend to be between 10-20 usually. Did try playing 2 at a go for a bit, but it didn't feel quite as comfortable and it was a losing session (whether that be through bad play or just runbad) so I've been sticking to 1tabling mostly.
But yeah I know you're definitely right about momentum, I've experienced enough negative momentum already.
I only started playing these on 15th April and so in 10 days have played abuot 250 and this is with what I would class as very small volume. I'm confident I could smash 1000 games most months. So if I'm making 5p per game (on average), then 1000 games is £50 profit, where as 1000 games would give me 1000 C4P which is less than a tenner.
But yeah, these are all abuot volume, volume, volume (when you're in the right frame of mind)
Stats
Won 154
Lost 131
Profit +£7.70
Poker Points: 513
I may have broke even tonight, but I'm now owed a whopping £4.10 in C4P
Nice, C4P makes a huge difference when you're playing a game which is only beatable with a small ROI; a 53% boost to your profit for the month in this case.