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ONE TIME!.....another diary.

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  • edited June 2013
    In Response to Re: ONE TIME!.....another diary.:
    Seriously though, a -3bi session is pretty standard, far from the end of the world. Just shrug it off m8, you have enough of a br to be able to cope with the odd bad session. I ain't good enough to dish out poker advice but I can give some moral support......... Chin up, don't beat yourself up everytime you have a bad session :)
    Posted by waller02
    Think -3byins is my biggest losing session this month though, yeah I do beat myself up too much when I lose.
    thanks Waller
  • edited June 2013
    I could actually give you some pretty good advice with regards to mental strength, but, you wouldnt consider it worth reading as I am only a 4nl player.

    Have a nice day.
  • edited June 2013
    In Response to Re: ONE TIME!.....another diary.:
    I could actually give you some pretty good advice with regards to mental strength, but, you wouldnt consider it worth reading as I am only a 4nl player. Have a nice day.
    Posted by calcalfold
    ARGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I cant believe it , why am I having such a bad day, first losing and now CCF wont give me advice....... This is just too much in one day, I cant cope :(
  • edited June 2013
    Agree with Waller, -3bi completely standard and you will have plenty of sessions like that grinding 4 tables and a decent amount of hours. Don't dwell on it or change too much, just recognize the mistakes you have made and go into the next session determined to make the right decisions and over the long term you will be in profit.
  • edited June 2013
    I still want to see the robbie1992 vs calcalfold hu grudge match anyone else?

    also robbie 6 bi`s is nothing m8 last week I was down 12bi`s but i was honest with myself after looking through my HH`s not all of it was coolers or bad beats so realised what I was doin wrong, for example I was floating too much and calling too many hands oop pre flop so cut most of this out and played more solid and I started winning again maybe just variance. So what i`m saying is if you feel you are still playing well just play through it buddy but on other hand if you know you are not playing near your best just chill out away from poker and come back when ready.

    but well done on building the roll keep it up.


  • edited June 2013
    thanks liam and benc

    Yeah I found  it abit hard to cope with even though its low as I havnt losed like that for a while.  No im honest aswell it wasn't varience it was bad play, that's why its annoying.  Planning to grind harder then ever next week though, Just wasn't a nice feeling losing today.  I need 900 c4p points in 7 days so its going to be hard.

    Liam how did your final day of the promo go today, got top 5 ??

    And benc, where have you been!?!?
  • edited June 2013
    Don't concern yourself too much with c4p just play as much as you want when your feeling good, don't over extend sessions for sake of an extra jump in c4p. I've just been grinding alot of HUsngs been on a bit of a heater so havnt played much cash or had much to udpate about in the diary, when i do play cash atm i just play 1-2 tables at 20nl mastercash and just play as a break from hu to enjoy myself rather than loading up aload of tables and getting in the second nuts against the regs at 10nl all the time and being behind every time lol
  • edited June 2013
    Lets get some stick :(

    1)
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    mattless Small blind  £0.05 £0.05 £10.70
    robbie1992 Big blind  £0.10 £0.15 £12.82
      Your hole cards
    • Q
    • A
         
    puppy86 Fold     
    Cash_Daddy Fold     
    xRaise  £0.30 £0.45 £19.64
    mattless Call  £0.25 £0.70 £10.45
    robbie1992 Raise  £1.10 £1.80 £11.72
    xCall  £0.90 £2.70 £18.74
    mattless Fold     
    Flop
       
    • A
    • 4
    • 9
         
    robbie1992 Bet  £1.35 £4.05 £10.37
    xCall  £1.35 £5.40 £17.39
    Turn
       
    • 5
         
    robbie1992 Bet  £3.20 £8.60 £7.17
    All-in  £17.39 £25.99 £0.00
    robbie1992 All-in  £7.17 £33.16 £0.00
    Unmatched bet  £7.02 £26.14 £7.02
    robbie1992 Show
    • Q
    • A
       
    xShow
    • 9
    • 9
       
    River
       
    • 6
         
    Win Three 9s £24.74  £31.76
    Shouldn't be losing 120bb stacks with this, opponent was Tag (v.aggro) didn't think he had aces, maybe AK but not sure of that, but I also don't think he does this with a flush draw sooooo .......Whats the best option with AQ in the blinds here pre.

    2)
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    Donttelmum Small blind  £0.05 £0.05 £14.62
    xBig blind  £0.10 £0.15 £20.64
    jpizzle Sit out     
      Your hole cards
    • J
    • J
         
    robbie1992 Raise  £0.30 £0.45 £7.87
    cgoldie Fold     
    JMC23 Fold     
    Donttelmum Fold     
    Call  £0.20 £0.65 £20.44
    Flop
       
    • 5
    • 4
    • 2
         
    xBet  £0.65 £1.30 £19.79
    robbie1992 Raise  £1.80 £3.10 £6.07
    All-in  £19.79 £22.89 £0.00
    robbie1992 All-in  £6.07 £28.96 £0.00
    Unmatched bet  £12.57 £16.39 £12.57
    xShow
    • 4
    • 5
       
    robbie1992 Show
    • J
    • J
       
    Turn
       
    • K
         
    River
       
    • 4
         
    Win Full House, 4s and 5s £15.16  £27.73
    Opponent was playing every hands from anywhere, was a fish.  When I first done this I thought it was awful the more I think about it im not sure I regret it vs this player type.  42/52 is v unlucky. 44/55/45 is likely.  Also stacks off with 56/ a5/ a4/ 33/ 77, 88, 99, 1010 imo.
    3) PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    robbie1992 Small blind  £0.05 £0.05 £9.95
    Cash_Daddy Big blind  £0.10 £0.15 £11.14
      Your hole cards
    • Q
    • A
         
    freshfish1 Fold     
    xRaise  £0.30 £0.45 £30.86
    mattless Fold     
    robbie1992 Raise  £1.10 £1.55 £8.85
    Cash_Daddy Fold     
    xCall  £0.85 £2.40 £30.01
    Flop
       
    • 5
    • 5
    • 4
         
    robbie1992 Bet  £1.20 £3.60 £7.65
    xCall  £1.20 £4.80 £28.81
    Turn
       
    • 6
         
    robbie1992 Check     
    Check     
    River
       
    • Q
         
    robbie1992 Check     
    Bet  £3.60 £8.40 £25.21
    robbie1992 Call  £3.60 £12.00 £4.05
    xShow
    • 5
    • 5
       
    robbie1992 Muck
    • Q
    • A
       
    Win Four 5s £11.10  £36.31
    This hand Annoyed me so much, worst of the week.  I actually had a good thought process for this yet I still called.  I cb a low board he calls with a wide range (standard? ) fairly blank turn and he checks, this is a big move! if his floating he doesn't check he bets, He checks with nut hands, flush draws, maybe a pair between ( 77-1010) but even then I think he bets to charge draws.  The river comes so I overtake those hands..... but why check? he value bets nothing I beat, he value bets flushs, FH, everything I lose too so how can I ever be good here.  If he has nothing he tries to win the pot on the turn, he doesn't check the turn with air, the turn is his chance to win the hand with air.

    Correct thinking?

    4)
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    Cash_Daddy Small blind  £0.05 £0.05 £9.60
    xBig blind  £0.10 £0.15 £9.75
      Your hole cards
    • 6
    • 8
         
    cgoldie Fold     
    Donttelmum Fold     
    freshfish1 Fold     
    robbie1992 Raise  £0.30 £0.45 £10.96
    Cash_Daddy Call  £0.25 £0.70 £9.35
    xRaise  £1.00 £1.70 £8.75
    robbie1992 Call  £0.80 £2.50 £10.16
    Cash_Daddy Fold     
    Flop
       
    • 8
    • 9
    • 3
         
    Bet  £1.25 £3.75 £7.50
    robbie1992 Raise  £2.50 £6.25 £7.66
    xCall  £1.25 £7.50 £6.25
    Turn
       
    • 7
         
    xCheck     
    robbie1992 All-in  £7.66 £15.16 £0.00
    xAll-in  £6.25 £21.41 £0.00
    robbie1992 Unmatched bet  £1.41 £20.00 £1.41
    Show
    • A
    • A
       
    robbie1992 Show
    • 6
    • 8
       
    River
       
    • J
         
    xWin Pair of Aces £18.60  £18.60
    Played is TAG/Nit, the 3 bet narrows his range a lot.  I call in position as I think he wont barrel if he misses and there will be plenty of opportunitys to steal the pot, also I call for implied odds as theres a high chance he has AA/KK/QQ.  I min raise flop as I don't mind him folding as I have no made hand at this point but don't mind a  call as I have a lot of equity.  The turn now gives me a lot of outs against that nut hand, I have a pot sized bet left, so any other bet commits me to the point, I shove as a semi bluff, again happy if he folds fairly happy if he calls.  He shows what was expected and it didn't hit.  I think I give him a extremely tough decision and I had a lot of outs....so is this bad?

    six x 3, eight x 2, five x 4, tenx4, heart x 7 ( think this is correct? ) sooo 21 outs? that's a ridiculous amount to have and still too miss, so is this bad play ?
  • edited June 2013
    In Response to Re: ONE TIME!.....another diary.:
    Don't concern yourself too much with c4p just play as much as you want when your feeling good, don't over extend sessions for sake of an extra jump in c4p. I've just been grinding alot of HUsngs been on a bit of a heater so havnt played much cash or had much to udpate about in the diary, when i do play cash atm i just play 1-2 tables at 20nl mastercash and just play as a break from hu to enjoy myself rather than loading up aload of tables and getting in the second nuts against the regs at 10nl all the time and being behind every time lol
    Posted by benc
    Ah fair enough, was sad to see our names both in bottom 15 after the effort we had previously put in.  Wished I could play hu/ sngs would be nice to have something I could have a change with.  Gl mate hope the heater continues!
  • edited June 2013

    I don't really want to say this, but the whole Calc/ Robbie thing has been really funny!

    They both have their different opinions and are never really going to agree.

    It would be good to have a match between the two, which might sort out some of the animosity.

    There was the game last Sunday, the forum game, Calc was there but Robbie couldn't make it.

    You could both play 5 HU games for a nominal value, 50 or a pound. If you played HU Cash the rake would just kill it.

    That is if both parties would be play ( which might not be the case).

    If both were 2 play though, it might build some mutual respect/ put an end to the squabblings, plus some1 would have the bragging rights (variance doesn't exist lol)

    Just an idea. But it would be the Sky game of the year:D  

  • edited June 2013
    how about that forum game thing again somtime in the week ?
  • edited June 2013
    be honest do you think its calcalfold way of flirting ? I think it is, mean he loves me deep down, what he says is all an act imo ......:)
  • edited June 2013
    yeah could defo get a game going throught the week or lambert could organise a hu tournament again and fix the 1st round match between yous two lol.

    and robbie don`t know about where i will finish in the promo sitting 3rd the now but aj_rockets and shawsok have upped their volume last few days and DTM is just an animal lol as said in previous post I don`t normally play for points,promos etc I focus mainly on making a profit in games I play regularlyin. but I have played a little more this week because not been at college or work this week and end of day it`s free money for just playing poker.

    any1 fancy a forum game tonight can`t be bothered grinding cash anymore tonight?
  • edited June 2013

    Update

    Wow, today was not what I wanted.  I would go as far to say its the worst iv run on sky poker ever, a lot of you will read and think oh yeah u lost blame varience, im honest with myself and today I played good poker, Im really happy with how I played and I played for about 6 hours straight.  My mental game was even good, I had a hand where I hit my flush on the turn and shoved a paired river and he had a FH, that resulted in my headbutting the door but after that I got back to my seat and focused.  I was really determined to beat varience, I was treating it like a enemy was just thinking keep it coming ill beat it with my play I don't care.  But it never slowed down, I had a good hour where I hit some nice hands, but mostly I just got beat up.  Its hard to take and Ihavnt looked at my balance so I can write this paragraph with a calm mind.  Im guessing I lost about 5 byins today ... but I think your agree I didn't deserve to ( ill post the hands judge for yourselfs).  Got £10 for the promo which is good seeing as I didn't even bother with it, also up to 2, 300 c4p points....700 to go, that's attainable in 6 days isn't it? ill look at the damage to my br now :(

    im Down to £324, which is about 3 1/2 buyin lose.  It hurts but what you going to do, no point moaning, ill see u again tomorrow varience! when I sit down I aim to be a nosense to my opponents, and put myself in pots ill mostly win, today I done that.  I say I want to be taken seriously on the site and consistently win money at poker and eventually play full time, so this is just another challenge poker is giving me.  Its like its asking "heres a bad beat prove your talking nonsense and give up" but im so determined to get back to the £400 and push on, and hopefully move out of 10nl sooner rather then later.

    Balance: £334

    Day: pokerhands ( -3.4 byins) Promo ( +£10)

    The Hands- bad beats or bad play ?

    1)

    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    robbie1992 Small blind  £0.05 £0.05 £17.60
    elvisg1972 Big blind  £0.10 £0.15 £12.62
      Your hole cards
    • 9
    • 10
         
    Chiddy2114 Fold     
    wartic Fold     
    supercrazy Fold     
    sophie21 Fold     
    robbie1992 Raise  £0.25 £0.40 £17.35
    elvisg1972 Call  £0.20 £0.60 £12.42
    Flop
       
    • 8
    • J
    • A
         
    robbie1992 Check     
    elvisg1972 Bet  £0.30 £0.90 £12.12
    robbie1992 Call  £0.30 £1.20 £17.05
    Turn
       
    • 6
         
    robbie1992 Check     
    elvisg1972 Bet  £0.60 £1.80 £11.52
    robbie1992 Call  £0.60 £2.40 £16.45
    River
       
    • Q
         
    robbie1992 Check     
    elvisg1972 All-in  £11.52 £13.92 £0.00
    robbie1992 Call  £11.52 £25.44 £4.93
    robbie1992 Show
    • 9
    • 10
       
    elvisg1972 Show
    • 10
    • K
       
    elvisg1972 Win Straight to the Ace £24.04  £24.04
    2nd nuts.

    2) PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalancepokermask Small blind  £0.05 £0.05 £14.47 Donttelmum Big blind  £0.10 £0.15 £8.95   Your hole cards J A       sophie21 Raise  £0.30 £0.45 £10.20 25075424 Fold     robbie1992 Call  £0.30 £0.75 £13.71 pokermask Call  £0.25 £1.00 £14.22 Donttelmum Fold     Flop    Q K 10       pokermask Check     sophie21 Check     robbie1992 Bet  £0.65 £1.65 £13.06 pokermask Raise  £1.90 £3.55 £12.32 sophie21 Fold     robbie1992 All-in  £13.06 £16.61 £0.00 pokermask Call  £11.81 £28.42 £0.51 pokermask Show Q K    robbie1992 Show J A    Turn    3       River    J       pokermask Win Flush to the King £27.02  £27.53
    Closed my eyes for this, just thought he had paired up when I see I lost :( went in with nuts.

    3) PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalancemiblack19 Small blind  £0.05 £0.05 £7.25 lMARKl Big blind  £0.10 £0.15 £11.28   Your hole cards K Q       win4finley Fold     robbie1992 Raise  £0.30 £0.45 £10.82 Mizroe Raise  £0.70 £1.15 £14.63 dare40 Fold     miblack19 Fold     lMARKl Fold     robbie1992 Call  £0.40 £1.55 £10.42 Flop    7 3 9       robbie1992 Check     Mizroe Bet  £0.78 £2.33 £13.85 robbie1992 Call  £0.78 £3.11 £9.64 Turn    2       robbie1992 Check     Mizroe Bet  £1.56 £4.67 £12.29 robbie1992 Raise  £4.10 £8.77 £5.54 Mizroe Call  £2.54 £11.31 £9.75 River    3       robbie1992 All-in  £5.54 £16.85 £0.00 Mizroe Call  £5.54 £22.39 £4.21 robbie1992 Show K Q    Mizroe Show 9 9    Mizroe Win Full House, 9s and 3s £20.99  £25.20
    Head but the door moment, money is virtually in on the turn, river isn't important. 78% fav

    4) PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalancebadtoad Small blind  £0.05 £0.05 £9.06 25075424 Big blind  £0.10 £0.15 £14.15   Your hole cards K K       robbie1992 Raise  £0.30 £0.45 £9.18 pokermask Raise  £0.70 £1.15 £34.76 Donttelmum Fold     badtoad Call  £0.65 £1.80 £8.41 25075424 Fold     robbie1992 Raise  £2.20 £4.00 £6.98 pokermask Fold     badtoad Call  £1.80 £5.80 £6.61 Flop    Q K 6       badtoad All-in  £6.61 £12.41 £0.00 robbie1992 Call  £6.61 £19.02 £0.37 badtoad Show J 8    robbie1992 Show K K    Turn    5       River    4       badtoad Win Flush to the King £17.62  £17.62
    The nuts when the money went in.

    5) PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalancesupercrazy Small blind  £0.05 £0.05 £9.70 lundie Big blind  £0.10 £0.15 £11.84   Your hole cards K K       saga Raise  £0.50 £0.65 £5.92 robbie1992 Raise  £1.50 £2.15 £13.83 supercrazy Fold     lundie Fold     saga All-in  £5.92 £8.07 £0.00 robbie1992 Call  £4.92 £12.99 £8.91 saga Show 10 10    robbie1992 Show K K    Flop    K 10 10       Turn    4       River    4       saga Win Four 10s £12.01  £12.01
    HAHA sometimes you have to laugh, wtf this hand is crazy, it wasn't until the turn when I stopped dancing that I realise ...wait a minute I got a full house but he has quads!!!!!!

    6) PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalancedel202020 Small blind  £0.05 £0.05 £5.38 Cash_Daddy Big blind  £0.10 £0.15 £15.47   Your hole cards K A       lMARKl Fold     robbie1992 Raise  £0.30 £0.45 £9.65 Henry1984 Fold     allaway01 Fold     del202020 Call  £0.25 £0.70 £5.13 Cash_Daddy Fold     Flop    9 6 10       del202020 Check     robbie1992 Bet  £0.53 £1.23 £9.12 del202020 Call  £0.53 £1.76 £4.60 Turn    J       del202020 Check     robbie1992 Bet  £1.00 £2.76 £8.12 del202020 Raise  £2.00 £4.76 £2.60 robbie1992 All-in  £8.12 £12.88 £0.00 del202020 All-in  £2.60 £15.48 £0.00 robbie1992 Unmatched bet  £4.52 £10.96 £4.52 del202020 Show K Q    robbie1992 Show K A    River    J       del202020 Win Straight to the King £10.13  £10.13
    8 billion outs.

    7) PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalancesupercrazy Sit out     sophie21 Small blind  £0.05 £0.05 £8.48 KP03 Big blind  £0.10 £0.15 £3.31   Your hole cards Q A       ace321 Fold     25075424 Fold     robbie1992 Raise  £0.30 £0.45 £10.28 sophie21 Fold     KP03 Call  £0.20 £0.65 £3.11 Flop    8 4 7       KP03 Check     robbie1992 Check     Turn    A       KP03 Bet  £0.90 £1.55 £2.21 robbie1992 All-in  £10.28 £11.83 £0.00 KP03 All-in  £2.21 £14.04 £0.00 robbie1992 Unmatched bet  £7.17 £6.87 £7.17 KP03 Show 7 8    robbie1992 Show Q A    River    J       KP03 Win Two Pairs, 8s and 7s £6.35  £6.35
    Hit my ace, short stacks mine! ...... sigh :(

    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalanceTGOAT9 Small blind  £0.05 £0.05 £16.91 Wussuupppp Big blind  £0.10 £0.15 £4.74 pokermask Sit out       Your hole cards J A       robbie1992 Raise  £0.30 £0.45 £9.59 Mizroe Raise  £0.90 £1.35 £4.24 badegg Fold     TGOAT9 Fold     Wussuupppp Fold     robbie1992 Call  £0.60 £1.95 £8.99 Flop    K K 9       robbie1992 Check     Mizroe Bet  £0.98 £2.93 £3.26 robbie1992 Call  £0.98 £3.91 £8.01 Turn    9       robbie1992 Check     Mizroe Check     River    8       robbie1992 All-in  £8.01 £11.92 £0.00 Mizroe All-in  £3.26 £15.18 £0.00 robbie1992 Unmatched bet  £4.75 £10.43 £4.75 robbie1992 Show J A    Mizroe Show J J    Mizroe Win Two Pairs, Kings and Jacks £9.64  £9.64
    -_- id play a full house like this, if he was showing me his cards id do the exact same move.

    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalancesaga Small blind  £0.05 £0.05 £2.12 robbie1992 Big blind  £0.10 £0.15 £15.25   Your hole cards 9 9       supercrazy Fold     lundie Raise  £0.30 £0.45 £12.64 KP03 Fold     18spades02 Fold     saga All-in  £2.12 £2.57 £0.00 robbie1992 Call  £2.07 £4.64 £13.18 lundie Fold     saga Show 5 5    robbie1992 Show 9 9    Flop    10 A 6       Turn    4       River    5       saga Win Three 5s £4.29  £4.29
    Only small but this was the hand before the full house vs quads hand, against the same guy lol
  • edited June 2013
    Wowsers... lots of HHs, and after the recent hammering I took in the clinic maybe I'm not the best to comment but I will anyway :p

    1. I'd bet the flop myself, but as played once you C/C flop, C/C turn is fine. River is bleurgh cos it's such a nutty move that people like to do and it's never a bluff but we have the 2nd nuts, and I'd be shocked to see him fire flop and turn w/ KT so I'd be calling. Unless you think they're a good player, they could be over-valueing sets or worse. Unlucky.

    2. I might 3bet the button w/ AJs depending on opponent, calling is ok too. As it was, slight overshove on the flop lol but if you think when he raises the flop he isn't gonna fold often then fine... you got it in good, well played, ul.

    3. Well played, unlucky.

    4. Well played, unlucky.

    5. Well played, unlucky.

    6. I'd flat the turn. He has so little back that after he clicks it back you're never gonna get a fold and while we have tons of equity we have no hand so are almost certainly getting it in bad.

    7. I'd bet the flop, but meh standard you're getting it in V this kinda stack on this turn every time. Unlucky.

    8. That river is just pure spew. You have decent showdown value and can probably check/call some bets, or check/fold but there's just no need to jam.

    9. Well played, unlucky.

    One good thing to take away from all that is that virtually every single one of these hands are completely unavoidable in the sense you've been coolered, or in the sense that you got it in good like you should and just couldn't hold. Not much you can do but play well, but I know how ya feel, it's pretty brutal when you kep getting it in good/playing well and keep losing.
  • edited June 2013
    In Response to Re: ONE TIME!.....another diary.:
    Wowsers... lots of HHs, and after the recent hammering I took in the clinic maybe I'm not the best to comment but I will anyway :p 1. I'd bet the flop myself, but as played once you C/C flop, C/C turn is fine. River is bleurgh cos it's such a nutty move that people like to do and it's never a bluff but we have the 2nd nuts, and I'd be shocked to see him fire flop and turn w/ KT so I'd be calling. Unless you think they're a good player, they could be over-valueing sets or worse. Unlucky. 2. I might 3bet the button w/ AJs depending on opponent, calling is ok too. As it was, slight overshove on the flop lol but if you think when he raises the flop he isn't gonna fold often then fine... you got it in good, well played, ul. 3. Well played, unlucky. 4. Well played, unlucky. 5. Well played, unlucky. 6. I'd flat the turn. He has so little back that after he clicks it back you're never gonna get a fold and while we have tons of equity we have no hand so are almost certainly getting it in bad. 7. I'd bet the flop, but meh standard you're getting it in V this kinda stack on this turn every time. Unlucky. 8. That river is just pure spew. You have decent showdown value and can probably check/call some bets, or check/fold but there's just no need to jam. 9. Well played, unlucky. One good thing to take away from all that is that virtually every single one of these hands are completely unavoidable in the sense you've been coolered, or in the sense that you got it in good like you should and just couldn't hold. Not much you can do but play well, but I know how ya feel, it's pretty brutal when you kep getting it in good/playing well and keep losing.
    Posted by Lambert180
    Ha I didn't think I posted so much that you have to scroll down twice lol

    Yeah I went to fold the turn with the suited connectors as I thought its unlucky I hit and there dirty outs, but  I thought about it more and didn't think he was doing that with k10 so if I hit I had the nuts. I also didn't bet the flop as Iv been working on aggressive opponents and I checked the flop as my hand couldn't take the hit of him raising my cbet.

    The Ajs I like to flat sometimes as iv was being aggressive on the table and I wanted to see a flop didn't want to get it pre flop raising war / and I like flatting nut flush hands as it keeps in a lot of other hearts hands.

    Hmm the flatting the turn is a good option, I struggle so much with these massive equity hands....especially against a small stack.

    Yeah it was a hard session, I thought about walking away a few times but thought im playing well and cant keep running from situations.  When I recover from this it will make me a better player in the future aswell as I know id be able to cope with it.  Think im 10 byins down since Friday which hurts a lot but oh well, got it in good so many times I cant do no more.
  • edited June 2013
    Please - it's "Buy ins"  (or maybe even "Buy-ins" not "byins"
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    Please - it's "Buy ins"  (or maybe even "Buy-ins" not "byins"
    Posted by FCHD
    or BIs :)
  • edited June 2013
    Some very unlucky hands amongst all them.

    With the 9 10s, I'd certainly be looking to bet the flop, and probably the turn. K10 might call one street but should be folding on the turn really. River is very unfortunate and almost impossible to get away from.

    AKs when minraised on the turn, as Lambert says just flat. We have plenty of outs but that minraise screams strength. We know we are getting paid off if we hit and can get away cheaply if it bricks off. I don't think he's ever folding after clicking it back so are always getting it in behind with only one card to come.
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    Please - it's "Buy ins"  (or maybe even "Buy-ins" not "byins"
    Posted by FCHD
    what about buy/ins or maybe, " buuuuuuyyyyyyyyy iiiiiinnnnnsssssss" or maybe ill just say I lost "4 big whoppers today"
  • edited June 2013
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    Some very unlucky hands amongst all them. With the 9 10s, I'd certainly be looking to bet the flop, and probably the turn. K10 might call one street but should be folding on the turn really. River is very unfortunate and almost impossible to get away from. AKs when minraised on the turn, as Lambert says just flat. We have plenty of outs but that minraise screams strength. We know we are getting paid off if we hit and can get away cheaply if it bricks off. I don't think he's ever folding after clicking it back so are always getting it in behind with only one card to come.
    Posted by hhyftrftdr
    Yes but Im adapting to him raising the flop often, I think he knew I was being to aggressive to have the goods all the time.  So when I recently worked on these situations, this sort of hand was the one that I had to be checking.  What do you think of actually calling the turn?

    Okay think that's the route ill take next time this hand comes up.
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    hand 1- I prefer to continue and c-bet i think if we bet flop and turn opponent would have folded gutshot well you think they would but if the call you down i`ts not you making the mistake imo,but as played just vul.

    hand 2,3,4,5- wow is just really sick spots just vul in these hands.

    hand 6- I like the aggression betting flop and turn with a lot of equity but when opponent min check raise turn it screams strength to me and don`t think they ever fold when you shove so me personally may just call the £1 and hope to hit your massive draw and then get paid.

    hand 7- sometimes a c-bet sometimes just check back but as played and the size of opponent stack think i do the same.

    hand 8-really don`t know what happened with this hand I prefer just to check it down you have showdown value you only get folds by hands that you beat and most of time only get called when behind imo.

    hand 9-just vul it`s easy call you have them crushed and they suckout can`t do anything else.

    but yeah some vul spots so can`t see anything you done wrong apart from hand 8 and maybe c-bet in hand 1 just my opnions though but other than that just ul buddy.

    also I finished 3rd in that promo thank god it`s over took out me, but had a very good week at tables and the free money from promo  is nice.

    gl at tables also get a forum cash game organised.
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    hand 1- I prefer to continue and c-bet i think if we bet flop and turn opponent would have folded gutshot well you think they would but if the call you down i`ts not you making the mistake imo,but as played just vul. hand 2,3,4,5- wow is just really sick spots just vul in these hands. hand 6- I like the aggression betting flop and turn with a lot of equity but when opponent min check raise turn it screams strength to me and don`t think they ever fold when you shove so me personally may just call the £1 and hope to hit your massive draw and then get paid. hand 7- sometimes a c-bet sometimes just check back but as played and the size of opponent stack think i do the same. hand 8-really don`t know what happened with this hand I prefer just to check it down you have showdown value you only get folds by hands that you beat and most of time only get called when behind imo. hand 9-just vul it`s easy call you have them crushed and they suckout can`t do anything else. but yeah some vul spots so can`t see anything you done wrong apart from hand 8 and maybe c-bet in hand 1 just my opnions though but other than that just ul buddy. also I finished 3rd in that promo thank god it`s over took out me, but had a very good week at tables and the free money from promo  is nice. gl at tables also get a forum cash game organised.
    Posted by liamboi11
    Okay thanks for the advice liam.

    So your never bluffing in the hand I shoved river? just not worth it?

    Yes I see you finished 3rd well done great achievement, sounds good im guessing you made a good amount from the actual grinding aswell by the sounds of it.  Yes I will do, how do I organise it just post on the forum that a game is going on ?
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    In Response to Re: ONE TIME!.....another diary. : Okay thanks for the advice liam. So your never bluffing in the hand I shoved river? just not worth it? Yes I see you finished 3rd well done great achievement, sounds good im guessing you made a good amount from the actual grinding aswell by the sounds of it.  Yes I will do, how do I organise it just post on the forum that a game is going on ?
    Posted by robbie1992
    yeah think i just check hopin im good, also by checking sometimes you get people think being smart and try to steal pot which you can a reasonable sized bet and win pot.

    thanks glad it`s over though and regards to the forum game yeah just post in forum m8 quite fancy one tonight if your game?
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    played fairly long today, how about Thursday ?

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    thu kool with me
  • edited June 2013
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    In Response to Re: ONE TIME!.....another diary. : Yes but Im adapting to him raising the flop often, I think he knew I was being to aggressive to have the goods all the time.  So when I recently worked on these situations, this sort of hand was the one that I had to be checking.  What do you think of actually calling the turn? Okay think that's the route ill take next time this hand comes up.
    Posted by robbie1992
    I know a lot of poker is player dependent and table dynamic also comes into it, so it can be hard to gauge on just a single hand. Just looking at that hand as it is, you've raised pre and flopped the up n' downer; this is a brilliant flop to fire at. The flop hits your perceived range so is fairly easy to rep, and you have good equity in the hand should you get resistance. I'd certainly be betting that flop, and betting pretty much any turn card. I think K10 probably gives up by then and you take it down. If he raises you on the flop, and has been raising you pretty frequently, then pop it up again and show real strength whilst still holding a decent draw.

    Instead of you adapting to him, why not try and make him adapt to you?

    Also, would you check to him if you had flopped a set? Or AJ and flopped top 2? If you would bet these hands, you should also bet your draws/bluffs (within reason!). Keeps your range nice and balanced and leaves the villain playing the guessing game on what you hold.
  • edited June 2013
    In Response to Re: ONE TIME!.....another diary.:
    In Response to Re: ONE TIME!.....another diary. : I know a lot of poker is player dependent and table dynamic also comes into it, so it can be hard to gauge on just a single hand. Just looking at that hand as it is, you've raised pre and flopped the up n' downer; this is a brilliant flop to fire at. The flop hits your perceived range so is fairly easy to rep, and you have good equity in the hand should you get resistance. I'd certainly be betting that flop, and betting pretty much any turn card. I think K10 probably gives up by then and you take it down. If he raises you on the flop, and has been raising you pretty frequently, then pop it up again and show real strength whilst still holding a decent draw. Instead of you adapting to him, why not try and make him adapt to you? Also, would you check to him if you had flopped a set? Or AJ and flopped top 2? If you would bet these hands, you should also bet your draws/bluffs (within reason!). Keeps your range nice and balanced and leaves the villain playing the guessing game on what you hold.
    Posted by hhyftrftdr
    That's what I'm saying though its a draw, so this is in my range of checking, was the first hand I hadn't cb for ages. I don't want to be cb 100% of the time, I want to be smart about it. This guy wasn't fit or fold he could play back at me and I don't really want a raising war on flop and he shoves the turn so I lose seeing the river. Just trying to balance my range, I'd occasional check when Iv missed the flop, occasionally check top pair , near enough always cb as long as board texture makes sense.
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    You're kinda losing me Robbie! 

    I'm a big fan of betting draws so I'd c/b this flop pretty much 100% of the time. We have the draw but can also rep the big cards, so best of both worlds. More often than not you'll take down the pot, if not on the flop, then on the turn with some continued aggression. I agree about sensible c-betting but surely this board smacks your range p/f and you can barrel your draw?

    It's a strange line to raise pre then go into check call mode and give up the initiative, whilst out of position. Going into c/c mode only gives you one way of winning the pot (hitting your draw) whereas continuing the pre flop aggression gives you 2 ways of taking it down. 

    All my opinion of course :)
  • edited June 2013
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    You're kinda losing me Robbie!  I'm a big fan of betting draws so I'd c/b this flop pretty much 100% of the time. We have the draw but can also rep the big cards, so best of both worlds. More often than not you'll take down the pot, if not on the flop, then on the turn with some continued aggression. I agree about sensible c-betting but surely this board smacks your range p/f and you can barrel your draw? It's a strange line to raise pre then go into check call mode and give up the initiative, whilst out of position. Going into c/c mode only gives you one way of winning the pot (hitting your draw) whereas continuing the pre flop aggression gives you 2 ways of taking it down.  All my opinion of course :)
    Posted by hhyftrftdr
    No it makes sense it's a good point.  Just didnt want to be blown off the pot. I think my hand is weak enough atm that I should have cb the flop. I just checked for pot control I suppose, I knew If I checked that I was going to see both the turn and river where if I cb I felt his capable of playing back at me, and it's not like I can call down light I had 10 high. Thanks for the advice I do understand, it should be in my range of CB as its too weak to check as I don't have a hand.
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