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  • RicOrfordRicOrford
    edited February 2014
    In Response to Re: Build A Bankroll 2014: next session TONIGHT 8pm- midnight:
    sess 19 (2hrs x 6) +8.01  Bankroll: £403.91 The (second) comeback is on. Played a quick session to get back into things. I made one horrendous call for my stack with AK  on AdTd3s flop with 2 players already all in - one had a set and that cost me about 60bb. Other than that I called a river donkbet with TP vs a slowplayed set/quads for around 17bb when with hindsight I had no reason to believe the oppo was bluffing.
    Posted by jimb0d1
    Have been following your posts with interest Jim, and fair to say quite of lot of personal painful recollection!

    Well played on pulling your deficit into a reasonable looking profit, but feeling your pain over the last few sessions.

    You seem like a bright and articulate chap, so I think it's a case of 'you know what you should be doing' and understand the game well, but can't put the fundamentals into practice in exam conditions (e.g not tilting, chasing draws, 3 betting out of position). I know this only too well and you only have to look at my overall bankroll challenge so far this year to see I haven't even properly structured it yet! I'm playing the main events trying to land that big cash, instead of grinding it out on DYMs or cash tables at very small levels. #epicfail

    Basically, I know what I SHOULD be doing. But I can't do it for some reason.

    Maybe I need to lose a few more sessions to really accept that I'm going to have to go back to the drawing board and get on those 2p/4p tables and £5 SNGs.

    Fingers crossed for you though Jim, you've shown you can turn it around before, so if you keep your BR discipline I'm sure you will aagain. :)
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  • RicOrfordRicOrford
    edited February 2014
    In Response to Re: Build A Bankroll 2014- TONIGHT 8pm- midnight:
    have a look here rich :@) https://www.skypoker.com/secure/poker/sky_lobby?action=show_static&page=poker_community_forums&plckForumPage=ForumDiscussion&plckDiscussionId=Cat%3a57795ac2-1793-4377-b4cf-e124b0f555f4Forum%3adf77f82c-151f-4bea-aae1-fb423dcae1faDiscussion%3a9c77fc7e-a85a-4c43-b925-e7cf59b36ab5&plckCurrentPage=0
    Posted by churchy18
    Nice work, Churchy.

    Have read through your thread and see you have more than you started with. But I can't see whether or not you've had to pull up again.

    Are you still using the same £24 you started with?
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  • RicOrfordRicOrford
    edited February 2014
    In Response to Re: Build A Bankroll 2014: next session TONIGHT 8pm- midnight:
    ...good stuff, I was just thinking about this.
    Posted by Slipwater

    ..thinking of donating me money, you mean?
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  • RicOrfordRicOrford
    edited February 2014
    In Response to Re: Build A Bankroll 2014: next session TONIGHT 8pm- midnight:
    Right... my last update was a loooong time ago.  But dont fret!  Ive kept a record of my ME and Mini shenanigans. We left my BR on £890 on the 18th. Since then I have played 8 main and Mini events... including two rollers.  However having sat into one roller for £3.... then a week later satting into the roller for £11 AND winning an all in sat AND winning bubble money on an all in sat my BR hasnt been demolished in the slightest! In fact, due to one or two min cashes/bounties in the Bounty Hunters my ME and Mini BR lies on £909. Still no deep runs to report though.  I havent played an MTT in almost a week but i shall be playing tonight so heres hoping i can return with a decent score!
    Posted by gazza127
    OK, best of luck Gazza. You've reminded me to try satellite in to the main! Thanks!
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  • cenachavcenachav
    edited February 2014
    Keep an eye out for the all in sats after about half 8 they tend to run with a fair bit of overlay.  36 is +ev 37 -ev
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  • RicOrfordRicOrford
    edited February 2014
    In Response to Re: Build A Bankroll 2014: next session TONIGHT 8pm- midnight:
    Keep an eye out for the all in sats after about half 8 they tend to run with a fair bit of overlay.  36 is +ev 37 -ev
    Posted by cenachav

    Ty, Mark. Tried a couple- didn't happen though.

    Still going strong in both events though!
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  • churchy18churchy18
    edited February 2014
    In Response to Re: Build A Bankroll 2014- TONIGHT 8pm- midnight:
    In Response to Re: Build A Bankroll 2014- TONIGHT 8pm- midnight : Nice work, Churchy. Have read through your thread and see you have more than you started with. But I can't see whether or not you've had to pull up again. Are you still using the same £24 you started with?
    Posted by RicOrford
    had too top up another £20 then £10 yesterday and turned that into over £100 since then

    and as money tight have took out £100 since starting so am probably about £180 up since started :@) not as good as yourself but ok for me keep it up and gl
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  • cenachavcenachav
    edited February 2014
    It's not all bad in the mini mate.

    RicOrford078 
    SenorBegs079
    Not a bad person to outlast :)

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  • GELDYGELDY
    edited February 2014
    thought it was going to be cash after being knocked out of the mini or main
    but looks like it's just a sulk
    gn all
    better luck next week
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  • RicOrfordRicOrford
    edited February 2014
    In Response to Re: Build A Bankroll 2014- TONIGHT 8pm- midnight:
    In Response to Re: Build A Bankroll 2014- TONIGHT 8pm- midnight : had too top up another £20 then £10 yesterday and turned that into over £100 since then and as money tight have took out £100 since starting so am probably about £180 up since started :@) not as good as yourself but ok for me keep it up and gl
    Posted by churchy18
    Good stuff Churchy. And have enjoyed your thread so far. Keep it up!

    I'm awarding you this week's free entry into next week's Turbo Open prize. See if you can boost your bankroll with that. :-)

    WINNER OF TURBO OPEN SEAT NEXT TUESDAY- churchy18
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  • RicOrfordRicOrford
    edited February 2014
    In Response to Re: Build A Bankroll 2014: next session TONIGHT 8pm- midnight:
    It's not all bad in the mini mate. RicOrford 0 78   SenorBegs 0 79 Not a bad person to outlast :)
    Posted by cenachav
    That was the main event.

    Funnily enough we finished close again in the mini. 16th for me and Senor is still going.
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  • RicOrfordRicOrford
    edited February 2014
    Not a bad's night work.

    Although I finished slightly down money-wise as I topped up and added on in the mini, and bought one add-on in the main. Plus two all-in satellites.

    So a start of £126.72

    My outlay was £42.36.

    However, I hada reasonable run in the main- finishing 78th.

    But cashed in the mini! Finishing 16th out of 226 runners and winning £29.64.

    So, bankroll now £114. But I'm not down about losing £12 as I had a good 5 hours of poker out of it and chalked up a decent finish and cash.

    Thanks again to everyone who railed and chatted tonight.

    Keep posting your bankroll progress on here and see you next Wednesday night on the tables!
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  • RicOrfordRicOrford
    edited February 2014
    In Response to Re: Build A Bankroll 2014: next session TONIGHT 8pm- midnight:
    thought it was going to be cash after being knocked out of the mini or main but looks like it's just a sulk gn all better luck next week
    Posted by GELDY
    Lol- thanks Geldy!
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  • churchy18churchy18
    edited February 2014
    In Response to Re: Build A Bankroll 2014- TONIGHT 8pm- midnight:
    In Response to Re: Build A Bankroll 2014- TONIGHT 8pm- midnight : Good stuff Churchy. And have enjoyed your thread so far. Keep it up! I'm awarding you this week's free entry into next week's Turbo Open prize. See if you can boost your bankroll with that. :-) WINNER OF TURBO OPEN SEAT NEXT TUESDAY- churchy18
    Posted by RicOrford
     cheers rich and good luck again

    EDIT sorry seen this as was going too bed thanks very much for the ticket hopefully i can have a wee bit of luck and get a wee run .will give it a good bash anyway.cheers and all the best
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  • RicOrfordRicOrford
    edited February 2014
    PS- I'll leave you with my exit hand- when I was around 8th/16 in the mini. The table generally agreed it was an unlucky way to go. See if you agree...

    Goodnight!
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    eaglenige Small blind 1500.00 1500.00 15712.50
    RicOrford Big blind  3000.00 4500.00 51364.59
      Your hole cards
    • K
    • 2
    		     
    Beestonboy Call  3000.00 7500.00 99742.00
    patwalshh Fold     
    LnarinOO Fold     
    eaglenige Fold     
    RicOrford Check     
    Flop
       
    • 6
    • K
    • 2
    		     
    RicOrford Check     
    Beestonboy Bet  3750.00 11250.00 95992.00
    RicOrford Raise  10500.00 21750.00 40864.59
    Beestonboy Raise  35250.00 57000.00 60742.00
    RicOrford All-in  40864.59 97864.59 0.00
    Beestonboy Call  12364.59 110229.18 48377.41
    RicOrford Show
    • K
    • 2
    		   
    Beestonboy Show
    • K
    • 9
    		   
    Turn
       
    • 4
    		     
    River
       
    • 4
    		     
    Beestonboy Win Flush to the King 110229.18  158606.59
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  • gazza127gazza127
    edited February 2014
    Summary of tonight as promised.

    I played the main and mini and was going deep in both.  I had cashed in the main and was doing well... and then my KK lost to 77 all in pre and I crashed out soon after.  Despite cashing for £50 I actually lost £40 on the tournament - I maaayyyyyy have gone rebuy happy when things werent going my way.

    Nevermind though.  I was still in the mini.  I managed to final table but then lost a big pot with a big draw... and went out soon after with this hand:
    Beestonboy Small blind   3000.00 3000.00 470091.48
    gazza127 Big blind   6000.00 9000.00 62166.80
      Your hole cards
    • 10
    • 7
    		     
    patwalshh Fold        
    James_Pond Fold        
    LnarinOO Fold        
    Beestonboy Call   3000.00 12000.00 467091.48
    gazza127 Check        
    Flop
       
    • 3
    • 4
    • 4
    		     
    Beestonboy Check        
    gazza127 Check        
    Turn
       
    • 7
    		     
    Beestonboy Check        
    gazza127 Bet   6000.00 18000.00 56166.80
    Beestonboy Call   6000.00 24000.00 461091.48
    River
       
    • 10
    		     
    Beestonboy Bet   18000.00 42000.00 443091.48
    gazza127 All-in   56166.80 98166.80 0.00
    Beestonboy Call   38166.80 136333.60 404924.68
    Beestonboy Show
    • 7
    • 4
    		     
    gazza127 Show
    • 10
    • 7
    		     
    Beestonboy Win Full House, 4s and 7s 136333.60   541258.28
    Cashed for £160 in the mini with just the addon taken so overall tonight im up £103.

    29th in Main and 5th in Mini.

    Balance above starting for the first time... but annoyed I couldnt take advantage of two deep runs.

    ME+ Mini Balance - £1012
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  • GELDYGELDY
    edited February 2014
    In Response to Re: Build A Bankroll 2014: next session TONIGHT 8pm- midnight:
    In Response to Re: Build A Bankroll 2014: next session TONIGHT 8pm- midnight : Lol- thanks Geldy!
    Posted by RicOrford
    Just ribbing Rich,

    maybe it was me going off on a sulk because i cannot play the next few wednesdays so will have to foregoe the pleasure of meeting you on the tables. and i was looking forward to some petty cash!
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  • churchy18churchy18
    edited February 2014
    In Response to Re: Build A Bankroll 2014: next session WEDNESDAY 12TH FEB 8pm- midnight:
    Summary of tonight as promised. I played the main and mini and was going deep in both.  I had cashed in the main and was doing well... and then my KK lost to 77 all in pre and I crashed out soon after.  Despite cashing for £50 I actually lost £40 on the tournament - I maaayyyyyy have gone rebuy happy when things werent going my way. Nevermind though.  I was still in the mini.  I managed to final table but then lost a big pot with a big draw... and went out soon after with this hand: Beestonboy Small blind   3000.00 3000.00 470091.48 gazza127 Big blind   6000.00 9000.00 62166.80   Your hole cards 10 7       patwalshh Fold         James_Pond Fold         LnarinOO Fold         Beestonboy Call   3000.00 12000.00 467091.48 gazza127 Check         Flop     3 4 4       Beestonboy Check         gazza127 Check         Turn     7       Beestonboy Check         gazza127 Bet   6000.00 18000.00 56166.80 Beestonboy Call   6000.00 24000.00 461091.48 River     10       Beestonboy Bet   18000.00 42000.00 443091.48 gazza127 All-in   56166.80 98166.80 0.00 Beestonboy Call   38166.80 136333.60 404924.68 Beestonboy Show 7 4       gazza127 Show 10 7       Beestonboy Win Full House, 4s and 7s 136333.60   541258.28 Cashed for £160 in the mini with just the addon taken so overall tonight im up £103. 29th in Main and 5th in Mini. Balance above starting for the first time... but annoyed I couldnt take advantage of two deep runs. ME+ Mini Balance - £1012
    Posted by gazza127
    both you and rich got busted of same guy.. did he win?
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  • jimb0d1jimb0d1
    edited February 2014
    Cheers for the kind words Rich. Yes, I know the standard play in most spots.....but pressing call is ssso00oooo easy, especially when I can reload. I remember Sam Grafton said in the 'Reloaded' show that he cant respect money in the same way he does MTT chips and that definately rings home with me.

    Also, Simon Hemsworth actually used the phrase 'fight fire with fire' which I used myself in a post above to display my attitude to playback vs aggro players. In my usual games (low stakes mtt/stt) this approach can work, but the missteps in cash can get expensive!




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  • jimb0d1jimb0d1
    edited February 2014
    time wasting

    sess 20 (30min x5) -13.76

    QQ failed to hold vs a gutshot and air in 3b pot for £28

    Tried chk-raise river bluff after opposition bet ridiculously small turn and river... lost a fiver. 

    Bah!
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  • jimb0d1jimb0d1
    edited February 2014
    Session 21 (1.5 hrs x 6tabs) -£24.92

    bankroll = £365.24

    Played a little loose and lost two big pots with suited connectors OOP.... once with an OESD+FD on the turn and then hitting a straight and opponent also hitting the higher straight. According to traditional poker strategy I should not have been in the hands pre vs 1 opponent but I knew they had premium overpairs (AA & TT as it turns out) and I would get paid if I hit. Still, perhaps I should scratch these high variance plays at the moment...... 

    I also managed to get KK in pre vs AT for a full stack and lose. No joy in the sats for ME tonight either and I am going to cut those out until get winning again, although I still have a bit of extra money on the site for mtt/stt entries.

    If I drop below £300 in this challenge I will drop to the 8p tables but hopefully it wont come to that!



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  • hhyftrftdrhhyftrftdr
    edited February 2014

    Funny to see beestonboy limp in and trap both his fish ;)

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  • RICHORFORDRICHORFORD
    edited February 2014
    In Response to Re: Build A Bankroll 2014: next session WEDNESDAY 12TH FEB 8pm- midnight:
    Funny to see beestonboy limp in and trap both his fish ;)
    Posted by hhyftrftdr
    Hmmm, does limping in UTG with a marginal hand or making up in the SB with 7-4 offsuit and then smashing the flop both times...count as trapping?

    Yours, not bitterly,

    Rich

    ;-)
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  • gazza127gazza127
    edited February 2014
    In Response to Re: Build A Bankroll 2014: next session WEDNESDAY 12TH FEB 8pm- midnight:
    In Response to Re: Build A Bankroll 2014: next session WEDNESDAY 12TH FEB 8pm- midnight : Hmmm, does limping in UTG with a marginal hand or making up in the SB with 7-4 offsuit and then smashing the flop both times...count as trapping? Yours, not bitterly, Rich ;-)
    Posted by RICHORFORD

    Yeahhhhh totally agree Richard.

    Harry is just jealous he couldnt run as deep as us. :)
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  • SlipwaterSlipwater
    edited February 2014
    In Response to Re: Build A Bankroll 2014: next session WEDNESDAY 12TH FEB 8pm- midnight:
    In Response to Re: Build A Bankroll 2014: next session WEDNESDAY 12TH FEB 8pm- midnight : Yeahhhhh totally agree Richard. Harry is just jealous he couldnt run as deep as us. :)
    Posted by gazza127
    Harry couldn't run deep in a thimble ;)
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  • MP33MP33
    edited February 2014
    Secondly, how about setting your own challenge?

    I,ve just completed a challenge

    Managed to sit through a whole episode of defectors
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  • RICHORFORDRICHORFORD
    edited February 2014
    In Response to Re: Build A Bankroll 2014: next session WEDNESDAY 12TH FEB 8pm- midnight:
    Secondly , how about setting your own challenge? I,ve just completed a challenge Managed to sit through a whole episode of defectors
    Posted by MP33

    Congratulations Paul. I'll send you the boxset as a reward.
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  • jimb0d1jimb0d1
    edited February 2014
    Session 22 (2 hrs x 6tabs) +£38.80

    bankroll = £404.04

    Good solid session. I only lost one hand over £5 with AK vs a set of aces on a low board. Otherwise, I managed to river my straight with 45s and bust a set of 3's but mostly I stuck to big hands in big pots. 

    Will be back after lunchtime....aiming to end the day at least 5 buy-ins up.





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  • jimb0d1jimb0d1
    edited February 2014
    Session 23 (2 hrs x 6tabs) +£35.80

    bankroll = £439.84

    Well that will do for one day. Very happy with my play and 7.5 buyins back towards breakeven! MTTs now while the house is quiet!
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  • jimb0d1jimb0d1
    edited February 2014
    Session 24 (1 hrs x 6tabs) -£7.77 bankroll = £432.07 Lost a bit mucking about. Might be on later for another push towards breakeven at £500. Points rewards building steadily.
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