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May bump into you along the way.
Any questions , just post on here.
GL
Mick
Glad your enjoying it Olive. As Mick says, if you need any advice, don't be afraid to ask.
Arfur
Thought I would post a few hands up to give it a bump and hopefully get the plopper community discussing strategy a bit more.
I have picked out a few from my 1/8 mauling last night. I'll leave a gap between each post.
This is a bubble hand blind v blind. I have Aces not great aces - no lo option. So when the SB makes up I am pretty sure that the best option is to pot. I get called though. (K6)6 flop is good for me, overpair and a pair with the board and needs runner-runner to make a lo for my opponent. They lead out though. Right to shove or is anyone folding here?
W4rlocks starting hand not great - but he might think I am "at it" with the pot, because several times on this table he has made up and I have potted. I always had it though obviously.
Main difference is I have less equity in the hand as flopped but fewer chips to leave behind
Poker gods were in the mood for a laugh on the turn/river combo.
My hand does have a few combo opportunities so not terrible but never going to be ahead of a caller.
Hi Phantom.
The first one - Aces in the BB on the K-6-6 flop.
The raise is OK, but this is an opponent specific situation, W4rlock (who is a good pal of mine, he came to Vegas with VLV one year) has a very eclectic starting hand range, & does not like to fold. He has called because he is double suited, no other reason. (His hand is dreadful, but that's not the point).
When we have the Aces & we see a paired board, we are either in tremendous shape (we kill all their 2 pair options) or terrible shape, as they have binked the three of a kind.
When he leads here (remember he has a ton of chips so does not NEED to do anything silly), he has to have the 6.
We can - just about - fold, as we have almost 4bigs, & after paying the SB, we'll still have 3 Bigs.
Think it was just a bit unlucky, as he does not hit that 6 very often. When he leads though, he always has it.
I'm ALWAYS wary when Roy calls me, he can literally have anything. Tough opponent.
In the second hand, just forget about it, & put it down to bad luck.
Once blinds go 200-400, & we have 4 Bigs, "any ace will do". I'm potting that pre-flop all day. 4 Bigs is the key, & we have a genuine "combo-hand" (high & low constituents).
And even though it was an all-high flop, you HAVE to continue. In most cases, players call raises with a low hand, as they play for lows, so the c-bet sails through easily.
Your man just got lucky.
Good tip though - when "sticky" players (stations) keep calling raises pre, they ALMOST always have a low hand. So if it comes all high, pot again, & generally they'll fold.
The third example - 2-4-7-8 - with 4 Bigs is fine, again, you just got unlucky.
I always prefer to have an ace in my hand (I very rarely enter ANY PLO8 hand without an ace) but in this case, we are betting to force folds, & if we get called, well we can't be in awful shape, rarely worse than 40-60.
With 4 bigs, we have got to be less selective & just hope we get the blind shoves through. MUCH rather do that with a hand that can make a low though, rather than a high only hand.
You just got unlucky. Eon's play was fine, too, he's never folding that to a shortie shove, nor should he.
If those 3 examples were typical, you just ran bad last night. (Arguably, you could have found the fold on the K-6-6 flop against Roy), the only caveat was that you were quite short (or not big) in all three. (A problem I'm all too familiar with). If we can motor along with a bigger stack, we can be more selective & patient at the sharp end.
I have a very nice hand, but I also have a decent stack relative to the blinds and the open raiser has a solid range. At first glance I am unlucky from the point the cards go face up.
However, I think on reflection I should have folded here. No need (yet) to go to war with this hand and these blinds.
6 handed and a player as solid as Vespa UTG pots - should have mucked this.
When this table opened Hendrick said in chat wow this must be about the most -EV table I have seen. At 3.30 PLO8 I have to agree. I can think of a few notable others who if sat you could have said the same thing, but this is a table of solid players no weak link apart from me and my rookie error. What's that saying about if you can't see the fish at the table it's you? Think I proved it here.
When Hendo said that I thought to myself - aha showing weakness there mate - but didnt say anything. Of course I bust first and Hendo bossed it.
Can't have been me - I'd have got there.