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That's actually a very interesting spot. My hand was positively poo, I mean really dreadful, but the play was (imo) correct, given stack sizes & position.
Clearly, it went wrong - you were not supposed to call - then it went right, as I got lucky.
I was SB to your BB, it had been folded round, you had a LOT of chips, & I needed chips. So I fancied, given that you had the game locked up, I could force a fold. I was wrong. I'm certainly not saying you should fold by the way - that's a different question.
I do get VERY aggro at that stage, especially if short of chips. I look for standard spots, & this, for the reasons outlined above, looked like a perfect spot.
And that is the real point of my reply. We can shove with ANYTHING, but it's much harder to call, even with a marginal or good hand. That is the very essence of these things, & that particular play.
What I really want at this stage is UNCONTESTED pots.
Let's say 4 of us are left, & Blinds are 200-400, we each have 3,000 chips & I have A-2-K-Q.
If I am first to act, I am ALWAYS getting it in here However if someone else opens first, I'm folding EVERY TIME. I'm 90% certain I am ahead, but I'm only 50% certain I can hold.
If I can nick pots uncontested, & take it down pre-flop (at those blinds) that's perfect afaic. I'd guess that I get a shove through 70% of the time because folks do not want to call for their DYM life.
Anyway, I hope that explains a few things.
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Love that post, & I'll tell you why.
Those of us that enjoy that particular format wanted more liquidity, more players, more fun.
And instead of pointing fingers, or telling Sky Poker to "sort it out", together, a bunch of us, no more than 6 or 8 of us - just went out, spread the word, welcomed new players, started "Help" Threads & between us we built that liquidity ourselves.
And now it's so satisfying to see what, collectively, we have helped build.
We are self-policed as to banter, humour, un-necessary rudeness, too, & have created a mood which encourages others to join us.
I played 4 hour sessions on Friday, Saturday & Sunday, & I don't always have laptop room to play all the £3.30's that open (I can only manage 6 at a time), & yet I still played 68 @ £3.30. in addition to 42 @£5.50 & £11.
Don't think too many sites except The Big One can boast such liquidity in PLO8 SNG's.
I only have one regret, I just wish I could run better.......
That depends on the opponent Craig.
There are some who would bet if they had the Jack, ignoring the power of the paired sixes. (Not a play I ever make, fwiw).
Others with J-J, or 6-A/K/Q bet there anyway, to protect against the runner runner low.
If I had, say, J-J here, I'd almost certainly bet into certain opponents, as I know they'd call with a bad six.
Not that you should heed my advice, I'm playing terribly at the moment. Timing, judgement, lack of confidence, bla bla.
Was I the villain?
Hi Craig,
Thanks for putting that up.
Firstly - & I'm sure you know this - but it was not my intention to diss you, quite the opposite.
Your play impresses me greatly, you just get it, & I've already said if you play 100 games @ £3.30 or above, you'll turn a profit, unless you experience some real run-bad.
You've also now stated that, in effect, you were sort of tilted, or, perhaps more correctly, "pressing too hard" after losing 5 in a row. Been there, done that.
Anyway, having said all that, your play quite surprised me, I was not expecting you to turn up with that.
I'll try & explain why now......
1) I think your hand is more of "first to open" hand, especially if the blinds are bigger. If someone opens in front of you, this should go in the bin really - you are not beating much at either end.
2) You have 1,950 chips at 75-150. This is tons. Plenty of time to wait for better spots, surely?
3) I'm not folding once I open - you know that.
4) Consider your seat. You are to my IMMEDIATE left. For the bulk of the game, that's the nut seat. Why? Because I don't make up the SB most of the time, & never once it gets to this level. I'm raising or folding, never "making up". Think how many "walks" you are going to get if you sit tight.
5) Am I likely to be making a desperado shove with a marginal as I'm short of chips? Nope. 1,600 @ 75-150 is zzzz time for me.
6) My range here? Well ALWAYS balanced. Always. 2 high, 2 low, always including an ace. I almost never enter a pot without an Ace. Your A-9 for the high cannot possibly be good, can it? And at this stage, I am DEFFO not opening with a low only hand - I almost never do until we reach shove mode much later. IMO, "Low only" hands are much over-rated.
So what that boils down to is DO YOU NEED TO MAKE THIS PLAY AT THIS POINT?
I don't think you do. You have plenty of chips, plenty of walks, & plenty of time.
I'll readily admit my game is based on avoiding un-necessary confrontation, which is way too nitty really, but I'm not a "punter".
So overall, I think in your spot here, I would ask myself - do I need to make this play?" And I think the answer is "no".
"first to open" is hugely important. If someone had opened in front of me, I would have binned my hand in a heartbeat. And my hand was stronger than yours, & I had less chips.
PS - here are the odds for your hand, pre-flop.
SCOOP - 22%
High - 49%. (A flip, effectively. Do you NEED to flip yet?)
Low - 6%. (Tie 29%).
Incidentally, look how bad your low is - 6%. That's the HUGE difference between my A-3-4, & your A-3-6. Incredible, isn't it?
Incidentally, I'm not mad on my play here either, it's a shade marginal, but I had good reason, as I was pretty sure I could force folds from at least 4 of the 5 players, none of whom like calling my raises much, & none of them generally get out of line much.
Having said all that, it was a brutal flop for you & I got very lucky with the high, but I had you all locked up pre-flop at the bottom end anyway. Which, of course, neither of us knew before we played the hand.
One other thing - if we swap seats, your open with the A-9-6-3 is fine. FIRST TO OPEN is huge. And I bin my (far better) hand if you have opened.
ALL imo, of course.
Just my opinion obv.
(edit...weirdly when I posted this Tikay's post and the others after that weren't showing on my PC, so apologies for duplicating pretty much what Tikay said!)
You boys do have some once a week.