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The s/stack cant afford to wait for premiums with 2.5BB and in the BB next hand.
340 to call with a pot of 1200 and the chance to bust a player makes me feel the odds were with me and ICM considerations mean call. Generally I don't do them and the last 2 times I tried, here and vs AJ in earlier post have come back to bite me. Maybe I should stop.
2nd hand, I was more worried about the open limper calling me than the button. "Limping to induce" doesn't really happen as much in PLO8 as in NL, especially dyms, but the thought had crossed my mind especially as I hadn't seen a limp from anyone for a good while.
Checking is definitely the safer option, and it should be safety first in a DYM.
In reality I don't think the check or the pot are bad and against regs I would do both for balance. You are right Jac in that my play needs players to be folding enough to make it a long term better play.
I do think the call/r-r all-in with a high only hand is a mistake from the button though.
Should have checked 2nd hand. Needs to be stronger to be happy to play for stacks and not quite enough fold equity with the pot sized bet.
On a reread this sentence doesn't make sense "In reality I don't think the check or the pot are bad and against regs I would do both for balance" as I can't see many regs limping utg with that stack in a plo8 dym.
Poker is dead.
Two interesting and common spots in the hands you posted.
Regarding hand 1...
I would be calling this all day long in this exact situation with these stack sizes for several reasons...
Firstly the odds.
Secondly if you fold then the opponent might snag enough chips to pot the next hand or one soon after and start to be another difficult factor to deal with at the table. I know you can argue that by calling you are giving him more chips but 300 odd more chips is neither a big dent to you or a 'massive' difference to his chances when compared to when you fold, however by calling you have the chance to remove him from the table. I would be struggling to fold any hand in this spot.
Third point I would mention is that if you lose this hand then the next few hands become more important than they were before this pot. You do not appear to be in any danger with 2k chips but a couple of orbits will soon shorten you especially if blinds hit 150/300... I don't mean by that I would advocate potting the next hand (although I might, depending on the dynamics) but I would be looking to pinch a few chips to maintain my stack +2k if possible (sometimes this won't be possible but if any opportunities to pinch a few chips present themselves in the hands immediately afterwards then take them IMO). I would generally try and do this in a low risk way which is vague as what is 'low risk' depends on the players and other table dynamics. It might be a limp in the SB with the intention of small ball repping any flop versus an opponent you feel will fold or it might be potting a two way against stack sizes who are looking 'safe' and will be less likely to call. Basically losing your BB and the 300 odd chips makes stack maintenance a bigger issue for you in the subsequent hands so you retain fold equity etc which is something to remember if making this call.
Regarding the second hand...
If I had played it this way (which I might well on occasion if I had a load of tables open) I would immediately think I played that wrong and just gave away any edge I might have post flop, I would feel I had just needlessly 'gambled'. If I was properly focussed, with these stack sizes in this situation I would always check. When it is 5 handed the dynamics are often not as clear to opponents (4 handed you will get away with more) and plenty people who have limped and shown interest already by limping will just call or get it in with you. Your hand plays nicely post flop for 2 reasons, you will often pick up a big piece and either take it down with a small bet on the flop or if it completely misses you, it probably missed your opponent and you again can probably take it down with a small bet on the flop. I know in this case he had a high orientated hand but that isnt the type of range that would/should 'normally' be flatting in that spot. Even in this situation however if you have checked preflop then make a small bet on the flop your opponent 'should' be folding a dry pair of tens (whether he will or not is a different matter) but in the long term you would be profiting if players are calling with dry tens versus your hand in these spots postflop.
GL @ the tables!
All sounds good M, you should be proud of the laddie, great thing he was doing.