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Get in the Hole! 2012 Season. (HSBC Champions) Years Profit: -£130.75

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  • TheDartTheDart
    edited September 2012

    After day one, I had decided to have a punt on Hunter Mahan if I could get 25/1 or more.

    Very surprised he is available at 40/1 ew first 4 and I'm on!

    Just 2 shots off the lead and his tee to green accuracy must have been amongst the best yesterday.

    If he really is back with his A game, I think he's great ew value at this stage.

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  • BELL_POKERBELL_POKER
    edited September 2012
    yeah nice return to form yesterday for him, though im still convinced after being plus 3 thru first 5 and pulling it back to par that DUFNER is the main man to challenge Tiger and having backed antepost at 25's im going back in @ 40/1 think hell go low at least 2 of the last 3 days, starting this evening. has been known to start slow and lets face it better starting that way and getting stronger than the other way around, which Id bet good money on what will happen to Rose in particular. Really rode his luck at times yesterday, and you can never keep that up. Expect Stricker to tail off as he tends to do, Rory probably stay solid enough and finish the day -2 or -3.
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  • joesman1joesman1
    edited September 2012
    In Response to Re: Get in the Hole! 2012 Season. (The Tour Championship) Years Profit: -£120.75:
    yeah nice return to form yesterday for him, though im still convinced after being plus 3 thru first 5 and pulling it back to par that DUFNER is the main man to challenge Tiger and having backed antepost at 25's im going back in @ 40/1 think hell go low at least 2 of the last 3 days, starting this evening. has been known to start slow and lets face it better starting that way and getting stronger than the other way around, which Id bet good money on what will happen to Rose in particular. Really rode his luck at times yesterday, and you can never keep that up. Expect Stricker to tail off as he tends to do, Rory probably stay solid enough and finish the day -2 or -3.
    Posted by BELL_POKER
    Ouch, just backed him @16's as 1st picks not doing well. Hope your wrong this time Mr Bell. 
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  • BELL_POKERBELL_POKER
    edited September 2012
    ach i probably will be as per usual!!!
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  • FlashFlushFlashFlush
    edited September 2012
    Well a decent 2nd day for my guys. Senden has got himself back to level with a lot of work to do over the weekend if he is to make top 4. 

    Bubba on the other hand is only 2 shots back but yesterday was a very flukey performance. He was scrambling a lot and getting lucky bounces, including putting in for a birdie from off the green. I am not overly confident Bubba will still be there after today, hopefully he has been working on some stuff and will be a bit more accurate today!
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  • TheDartTheDart
    edited September 2012
    In Response to Re: Get in the Hole! 2012 Season. (The Tour Championship) Years Profit: -£120.75:
    Well a decent 2nd day for my guys. Senden has got himself back to level with a lot of work to do over the weekend if he is to make top 4.  Bubba on the other hand is only 2 shots back but yesterday was a very flukey performance. He was scrambling a lot and getting lucky bounces, including putting in for a birdie from off the green. I am not overly confident Bubba will still be there after today, hopefully he has been working on some stuff and will be a bit more accurate today!
    Posted by FlashFlush
    Yes Flash can't grumble (wouldn't anyway), at the tip for Bubba, after some indifferent play he is certainly well placed.

    After bigging up Hunter Mahan and his 'A' game he got a big fat F on day 2.

    On the other hand I'm pleased one of my 2 original picks Bo Van Pelt is along side Bubba on the leaderboard and playing together today could suit them both as they can both hit it miles.

    I'll be happy with a top 4 finish from either of them.

    Good Luck all!
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  • BELL_POKERBELL_POKER
    edited September 2012
    dufner at 100/1 im stubborn as a mule going back in again. gonna shoot a 63 today. yes i am clearly deluded before you ask!!!! ive jim furyk whos leading and he will NOT win i just have a bad feeling about the bet. one of those good for a sweat come halfway and he'll tail off out of sight . hopefully im wrong
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  • joesman1joesman1
    edited September 2012
    In Response to Re: Get in the Hole! 2012 Season. (Italian Open) Years Profit: -£115.75:
    30 runners ew 1/4 1st 4 means good value if we can get Mclroy and Woods beat as they are inflating everybody else's price. I've plumped for Donald 20's (though hate having my fancy tipped in the Post). Watson 33's and Simpson 45's. 
    Posted by joesman1
    Bit unlucky to get the 3rd and joint 5th players. Only a small profit as backed all 3 ew.
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  • MP33MP33
    edited September 2012
    Anyone got any tips for the Ryder Cup or are you waiting for the pairings?
     
    Cant see any value in Europe but might back them to win by x amount of points as i,ll be supporting them anyway as i,ve just got Sky Sports 1 back -Happy days
      
       
    1.77USA       USA 4/68/114/64/64/64/64/78/138/118/138/133/44/64/611/174/64/610/1313/1810/137/1073/10018/2514-15.5
    2.75Europe       Europe 13/86/48/56/48/58/57/413/86/47/413/87/56/47/46/46/46/46/419/1123/13171/100173/10089/509-10.5
    12.7Tie       Tie 111091091010101010101010101010109117/101157/556/558/5 
       


    Top American - Can,t see past Tiger here - He,s gonna get all the crowds as usual and will be well pumped
    Sort By: Fav/Name
    		 
       
    6.0Tiger Woods       Tiger Woods 59/259/2559/25555555555547/10 24/59/247/1017-20
    9.4Steve Stricker       Steve Stricker 87888878888888888842/532/5983/1087/108-11
    10.0Dustin Johnson       Dustin Johnson 815/2989889815/29898879938/542/5987/1087/109-12
    11.0Phil Mickelson       Phil Mickelson 8889817/2899991099989893/1041/517/283/1087/108-11
    12.0Bubba Watson       Bubba Watson 9101010101091110911101010109101147/542/521/251/5107/109-12
    13.0Matt Kuchar       Matt Kuchar 111191191112101110108111110101011103/1019/221/297/10107/107-9
    13.0Webb Simpson       Webb Simpson 10121112111211121111121112111011121223/29119/1056/558/57-9
    15.0Jim Furyk       Jim Furyk 12121111111210121014121212111212121268/51264/563/5131/108-11
    15.0Brandt Snedeker       Brandt Snedeker 12121414141214101012101214121411111461/513143/1068/5141/107-9
    15.4Keegan Bradley       Keegan Bradley 12121112111112111112111212121212101272/511119/10107/1058/56-8
    15.5Zach Johnson       Zach Johnson 14141114111414141211141214141414121429/21369/568/568/55-7
    15.5Jason Dufner       Jason Dufner 14141112111212121110121214121411121229/227/269/568/5141/106-8
    Top European - I think Rory is obv value  although a dark horse for me is Ian Poulter who loves this Cup more than anyone and his experience will also help
    Sort By: Fav/Name
    		 
       
    6.5Rory McIlroy       Rory McIlroy 559/211/29/25511/259/211/29/25559/255527/557/1049/1028/516-19
    7.0Luke Donald       Luke Donald 11/211/211/2611/211/211/2611/266611/211/211/211/211/2629/526/511/227/527/514-17
    9.0Justin Rose       Justin Rose 7888815/2777778815/2788839/538/539/539/539/510-13
    9.0Sergio Garcia       Sergio Garcia 8715/215/215/2787715/278815/215/288873/1039/5838/5811-14
    9.1Lee Westwood       Lee Westwood 8715/2815/2887715/277815/215/215/215/2781/10841/581/1081/1011-14
    9.2Ian Poulter       Ian Poulter 713/2888777715/278815/215/213/27741/539/5839/5810-13
    9.3Graeme McDowell       Graeme McDowell 15/2715/2815/2877715/278815/215/278883/1041/517/217/287/1010-13
    23.0Nicolas Colsaerts       Nicolas Colsaerts 18221620161620201814201618181816161688/533/283/531/235/23-5
    26.0Martin Kaymer       Martin Kaymer 20251622162020202025202022202022162021202292/5214-6
    26.0Francesco Molinari       Francesco Molinari 18252020202220142016142020182020202096/5222422232.5-4
    26.0Paul Lawrie       Paul Lawrie 25182525252220202016202025222220202224222423233-5
    26.0Peter Hanson       Peter Hanson 2525222522202520252220202522222220222423252424
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  • FlashFlushFlashFlush
    edited September 2012
    A tie might not be a bad shout. In the last 13 events it's 8-4 to Europe and 1 tie. Europe are not looking the best team this year with Westwood, Kaymer, Colsaerts, G-Mac not in the best of form. The same argument could be made for the US team, but with it on their home patch I think this could be very close, and 10/1 is pretty decent value. I doubt I'll actually put any bets on due to how badly I was at predicting the matchplay results earlier in the year
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  • BELL_POKERBELL_POKER
    edited September 2012
    In Response to Re: Get in the Hole! 2012 Season. (The Tour Championship) Years Profit: -£120.75:
    Anyone got any tips for the Ryder Cup or are you waiting for the pairings?   Cant see any value in Europe but might back them to win by x amount of points as i,ll be supporting them anyway as i,ve just got Sky Sports 1 back -Happy days           1.77 USA               USA   4/6 8/11 4/6 4/6 4/6 4/6 4/7 8/13 8/11 8/13 8/13 3/4 4/6 4/6 11/17 4/6 4/6 10/13 13/18 10/13 7/10 73/100 18/25 14-15.5 2.75 Europe               Europe   13/8 6/4 8/5 6/4 8/5 8/5 7/4 13/8 6/4 7/4 13/8 7/5 6/4 7/4 6/4 6/4 6/4 6/4 19/11 23/13 171/100 173/100 89/50 9-10.5 12.7 Tie               Tie   11 10 9 10 9 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 9 117/10 11 57/5 56/5 58/5         Top American - Can,t see past Tiger here - He,s gonna get all the crowds as usual and will be well pumped Sort By: Fav / Name         6.0 Tiger Woods               Tiger Woods   5 9/2 5 9/2 5 5 9/2 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 47/10   24/5 9/2 47/10 17-20 9.4 Steve Stricker               Steve Stricker   8 7 8 8 8 8 7 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 8 42/5 32/5 9 83/10 87/10 8-11 10.0 Dustin Johnson               Dustin Johnson   8 15/2 9 8 9 8 8 9 8 15/2 9 8 9 8 8 7 9 9 38/5 42/5 9 87/10 87/10 9-12 11.0 Phil Mickelson               Phil Mickelson   8 8 8 9 8 17/2 8 9 9 9 9 10 9 9 9 8 9 8 93/10 41/5 17/2 83/10 87/10 8-11 12.0 Bubba Watson               Bubba Watson   9 10 10 10 10 10 9 11 10 9 11 10 10 10 10 9 10 11 47/5 42/5 21/2 51/5 107/10 9-12 13.0 Matt Kuchar               Matt Kuchar   11 11 9 11 9 11 12 10 11 10 10 8 11 11 10 10 10 11 103/10 19/2 21/2 97/10 107/10 7-9 13.0 Webb Simpson               Webb Simpson   10 12 11 12 11 12 11 12 11 11 12 11 12 11 10 11 12 12 23/2 9 119/10 56/5 58/5 7-9 15.0 Jim Furyk               Jim Furyk   12 12 11 11 11 12 10 12 10 14 12 12 12 11 12 12 12 12 68/5 12 64/5 63/5 131/10 8-11 15.0 Brandt Snedeker               Brandt Snedeker   12 12 14 14 14 12 14 10 10 12 10 12 14 12 14 11 11 14 61/5 13 143/10 68/5 141/10 7-9 15.4 Keegan Bradley               Keegan Bradley   12 12 11 12 11 11 12 11 11 12 11 12 12 12 12 12 10 12 72/5 11 119/10 107/10 58/5 6-8 15.5 Zach Johnson               Zach Johnson   14 14 11 14 11 14 14 14 12 11 14 12 14 14 14 14 12 14 29/2 13 69/5 68/5 68/5 5-7 15.5 Jason Dufner               Jason Dufner   14 14 11 12 11 12 12 12 11 10 12 12 14 12 14 11 12 12 29/2 27/2 69/5 68/5 141/10 6-8 Top European - I think Rory is obv value  although a dark horse for me is Ian Poulter who loves this Cup more than anyone and his experience will also help Sort By: Fav / Name         6.5 Rory McIlroy               Rory McIlroy   5 5 9/2 11/2 9/2 5 5 11/2 5 9/2 11/2 9/2 5 5 5 9/2 5 5 5 27/5 57/10 49/10 28/5 16-19 7.0 Luke Donald               Luke Donald   11/2 11/2 11/2 6 11/2 11/2 11/2 6 11/2 6 6 6 11/2 11/2 11/2 11/2 11/2 6 29/5 26/5 11/2 27/5 27/5 14-17 9.0 Justin Rose               Justin Rose   7 8 8 8 8 15/2 7 7 7 7 7 8 8 15/2 7 8 8 8 39/5 38/5 39/5 39/5 39/5 10-13 9.0 Sergio Garcia               Sergio Garcia   8 7 15/2 15/2 15/2 7 8 7 7 15/2 7 8 8 15/2 15/2 8 8 8 73/10 39/5 8 38/5 8 11-14 9.1 Lee Westwood               Lee Westwood   8 7 15/2 8 15/2 8 8 7 7 15/2 7 7 8 15/2 15/2 15/2 15/2 7 81/10 8 41/5 81/10 81/10 11-14 9.2 Ian Poulter               Ian Poulter   7 13/2 8 8 8 7 7 7 7 15/2 7 8 8 15/2 15/2 13/2 7 7 41/5 39/5 8 39/5 8 10-13 9.3 Graeme McDowell               Graeme McDowell   15/2 7 15/2 8 15/2 8 7 7 7 15/2 7 8 8 15/2 15/2 7 8 8 83/10 41/5 17/2 17/2 87/10 10-13 23.0 Nicolas Colsaerts               Nicolas Colsaerts   18 22 16 20 16 16 20 20 18 14 20 16 18 18 18 16 16 16 88/5 33/2 83/5 31/2 35/2 3-5 26.0 Martin Kaymer               Martin Kaymer   20 25 16 22 16 20 20 20 20 25 20 20 22 20 20 22 16 20 21 20 22 92/5 21 4-6 26.0 Francesco Molinari               Francesco Molinari   18 25 20 20 20 22 20 14 20 16 14 20 20 18 20 20 20 20 96/5 22 24 22 23 2.5-4 26.0 Paul Lawrie               Paul Lawrie   25 18 25 25 25 22 20 20 20 16 20 20 25 22 22 20 20 22 24 22 24 23 23 3-5 26.0 Peter Hanson               Peter Hanson   25 25 22 25 22 20 25 20 25 22 20 20 25 22 22 22 20 22 24 23 25 24 24
    Posted by MP33
    yeah waiting on pairings mate then will do a treble per day gonna be good!
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  • joesman1joesman1
    edited September 2012
    Backing Donald to be top European. With his foursome (unbeaten) and four-ball record, added to the fact it's his home track and hit form last week 6/1 is a very fair price. Also backing Snedeker to be top US rookie. Again with his lethal putting/recent form, guaranteed to be in the 1st mornings foursomes and afternoon four-balls. Finally, two correct score bets, 14 - 14 and 14.5 to 13.5 to Europe. COME ON BOYS!!!!
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  • BELL_POKERBELL_POKER
    edited September 2012
    what price sned top rook? donald a good shout at home in chicago also like mp33 suggesting poults theyd be my 2 main men oher than gmac and rory
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  • joesman1joesman1
    edited September 2012
    In Response to Re: Get in the Hole! 2012 Season. (The Tour Championship) Years Profit: -£120.75:
    what price sned top rook? donald a good shout at home in chicago also like mp33 suggesting poults theyd be my 2 main men oher than gmac and rory
    Posted by BELL_POKER
    Believe it or not the 100/30 OUTSIDER!!!! Why o why Dufner Bradley and Simpson are ahead of him god only knows.
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  • joesman1joesman1
    edited September 2012
    Here's another 'good thing'... Westwood to hit the 1st tee shot for Europe, 5/2 with skybet... Reasons:-

    1) There maybe 12 players but only 4 or 5 would be considered for this honour.

    2) He was in the 1st group on the 1st morning at Celtic Manor

    3) He is likely to take over as the 'talisman' from Monty

    4) If he is in the 1st group, 2 of the 3 par 3's are on odd numbered tees, playing to his superior iron play
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  • BELL_POKERBELL_POKER
    edited September 2012
    wow 10/3 for Brandt i DO find that hard to beleive!!! maybe both he and what you said about westwood could be worth a double (if not classified as 'special' single bets.)

    im a huge keegan fan but no way i could be having any of the 3 others against him. when the times right and IF webb were to gather a couple of shots lead on the sunday in his single match, against whoever, then ill be tempted to have a tidy play on his opponent. the better he starts the worse he gets, have noticed this about him on more than one occasion, came from right off the pace in US open and im still of the opinion Furyk lost it rather than he won it, was in clubhouse and all. think the pressure gets to this one, and dufner has previous as well. think keegan copes well with pressure and id expect him to fair best out of the other 3.


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  • joesman1joesman1
    edited September 2012
    In Response to Re: Get in the Hole! 2012 Season. (The Tour Championship) Years Profit: -£120.75:
    wow 10/3 for Brandt i DO find that hard to beleive!!! maybe both he and what you said about westwood could be worth a double (if not classified as 'special' single bets.) im a huge keegan fan but no way i could be having any of the 3 others against him. when the times right and IF webb were to gather a couple of shots lead on the sunday in his single match, against whoever, then ill be tempted to have a tidy play on his opponent. the better he starts the worse he gets, have noticed this about him on more than one occasion, came from right off the pace in US open and im still of the opinion Furyk lost it rather than he won it, was in clubhouse and all. think the pressure gets to this one, and dufner has previous as well. think keegan copes well with pressure and id expect him to fair best out of the other 3.
    Posted by BELL_POKER
    Shouldn't be classed as a 'related' bet... But i bet it is
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  • MP33MP33
    edited September 2012
    Kinda changed my mind on Poulter as the course is set up for long hitters and the experts keep saying it could turn into a putting competition and going of some of the advice on this thread i,ve gone for these bets :
    MarketSelectionTypeBet IDBet
    placed    		 Odds
    req.    		Stake
    (£)    		Liability
    (£)    		Avg. odds
    matched    		Date
    matched
     
    Group B / Ryder Cup 2012 / Correct Score Europe 16 - 12Back22393656211 27-Sep-12
    20:14     		 222.00 2227-Sep-12 20:14
     
    Ryder Cup 2012 / Top European Scorer / Winner Luke DonaldBack22393602103 27-Sep-12
    20:12     		 6.45.00 6.427-Sep-12 20:12
     
    Ryder Cup 2012 / Top European Scorer / Winner Nicolas ColsaertsBack22393579168 27-Sep-12
    20:11     		 203.00 2027-Sep-12 20:11
     
    Group B / Ryder Cup 2012 / Top Debutant Brandt SnedekerBack22393556345 27-Sep-12
    20:10     		 4.25.00 4.227-Sep-12 20:10
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  • jackdajackda
    edited September 2012
    After seeing the draw for the morning foursomes it's advantage Europe for me.Think we will definately win at least 2 of the games if not 3,or the lot even.Westwood and Molinari is my biggest worry.
    So gonna back us to be 3-1 up after the morning.
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  • BELL_POKERBELL_POKER
    edited September 2012
    have the pairings been decided yet??!!!
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  • jackdajackda
    edited September 2012
    In Response to Re: Get in the Hole! 2012 Season. (The Tour Championship) Years Profit: -£120.75:
    have the pairings been decided yet??!!!
    Posted by BELL_POKER
    yeah.

    • Furyk/Snedeker v McIlroy/McDowell (1320 BST)
    • Mickelson/Bradley v Donald/Garcia (1335 BST)
    • Dufner/Z Johnson v Westwood/Molinari (1350 BST)
    • Woods/Stricker v Poulter/Rose (1405 BST)
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  • BELL_POKERBELL_POKER
    edited September 2012
    ah cheers for posting, not sure what the reasoning is behind the westwood/francesco pairing but good luck til them! am i not right in thinking neither are the greatest putters?
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  • BELL_POKERBELL_POKER
    edited September 2012
    not a good start for 'our' (!) snedker bet joesman, as rory and gmac will own him and furyk!!!
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH
    edited September 2012

    Prob 5x £5 accas for me!

    The first one is....

    Nireland - win.
    WW & Molinari - win.
    P & Rose - tie 

    = 27/1


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  • BELL_POKERBELL_POKER
    edited September 2012
    lol lets keep one thread for the ryder cup he says!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  ; )
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH
    edited September 2012
    lol I was slow. I picked the wrong one, I didn't realise everyone had already started on here!

    Anyway, don't worry about it I'm gonne be £130 up by T-time tomorrow and freerolling the weekend!


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  • joesman1joesman1
    edited September 2012
    In Response to All things Ryder Cup - (re named at Dohhhh's request):
    Anyone fancy trying to predict tomorrow mornings pairings? I'll go for Westwood/Molinari then Donald/Garcia then Mclroy/McDowell and Poulter/Rose as rear gunners. Not sure how anyone can say the US have a stronger team looking at those pairings. As for the US, I'll guess they'll go Mickleson/Bradley then Watson/Simpson Woods/Stricker finally Snedeker/Johnson
    Posted by joesman1

    Any prizes for correctly guessing Europe's pairings?? Shame I got 1st & 3rd wrong way round. The US was harder to predict but got the two easy ones in. 

    I think the 1st and 2nd matches are shoe ins. . And also Westwood and Molinari should take care of their match. So 3 - 1 or even 3.5 - 1.5 to Europe??
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  • joesman1joesman1
    edited September 2012
    In Response to Re: Get in the Hole! 2012 Season. (The Tour Championship) Years Profit: -£120.75:
    not a good start for 'our' (!) snedker bet joesman, as rory and gmac will own him and furyk!!!
    Posted by BELL_POKER
    Yeah true Mr Bell. Perfect scenario (cos I'm backing the Irish boys) is for Sneds to lose but play well, be Furyk's fault, and so be picked for afternoon four-balls, and other rookies lose too. 
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH
    edited September 2012
    In Response to Re: Get in the Hole! 2012 Season. (The Tour Championship) Years Profit: -£120.75:
    Prob 5x £5 accas for me! The first one is.... Nireland - win. WW & Molinari - win. P & Rose - tie  = 27/1
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    Sigh only 23/1 this morning. Why do they do that?

    Draw in the last game in to 9/2 from 6/1 overnight, how could anything have changed?? :@:@:@ grrr. 

    Need to start putting bets on when I see them instead of waiting until the last minute. 

    -------------------------

    I hope both teams all wear the same colour btw. Hate seeing shots and not knowing who it is. 

    Red v Blue plz :) !
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  • BELL_POKERBELL_POKER
    edited September 2012
    gone for 10er treble to get ball rolling..........

    north of ireland select win 4/5
    Bradickleson VS Donarcia tie 11/2
    steve stricks and big eldrick win 10/11

    tad over 21/1
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