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Ramblings of an old man

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  • edited July 2014
    but i'm never nasty to you...
    point out some home truths occasionally
    get upset at some of the things written on your thread now & then - usually by others
    but always read your thread first, every single word on it, and there's been a few
    #1 fan even if I post less than before, despite the things you say about me in the chat box

    ps study plo8 for sure, but play as well - much faster way to learn and pretty good value at £10/hour
  • edited July 2014
    In Response to Re: Ramblings of an old man:
    but i'm never nasty to you... point out some home truths occasionally get upset at some of the things written on your thread now & then - usually by others but always read your thread first, every single word on it, and there's been a few #1 fan even if I post less than before, despite the things you say about me in the chat box ps study plo8 for sure, but play as well - much faster way to learn and pretty good value at £10/hour
    Posted by GELDY


    i know how much your adore The Inbetweeners
  • edited July 2014
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    In Response to Re: Ramblings of an old man : i know how much your adore The Inbetweeners
    Posted by Jac35

    my turn to have to google:

    The episodes involved situations of school bullying, broken family life, indifferent school staff,
    male bonding, and largely failed sexual encounters.

    think i'll stick to Eminem thank you. be careful what you wish for. 

    What are friends? Friends are people that you think are your friends But they're really your enemies, with secret identities and disguises To hide their true colors So just when you think you're close enough to be brothers
     They wanna come back and cut your throat when you ain't looking

    could be an apt quote for a poker player

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wVa9HMjUtk

  • edited July 2014
    In Response to Re: Ramblings of an old man:
    In Response to Re: Ramblings of an old man : my turn to have to google: The episodes involved situations of school bullying, broken family life, indifferent school staff, male bonding , and largely failed sexual encounters. think i'll stick to Eminem thank you. be careful what you wish for.  What are friends?   Friends are people that you think are your friends   But they're really your enemies, with secret identities and disguises   To hide their true colors  So just when you think you're close enough to be brothers   They wanna come back and cut your throat when you ain't looking could be an apt quote for a poker player http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wVa9HMjUtk
    Posted by GELDY
    ?

    Ok, I give up Robert. I think you've really taken that entirely the wrong way. It was meant to be light hearted. A silly pic to tell you that I'm glad we're friends again.
    From the quote you've put in I guess you've seen it very differently. I like you a lot but it would seem that to everything I post you find a way of being offended. If the quote is aimed at me in than I'm very disappointed and upset by it.
  • edited July 2014
    I played cash for about 5 hours in total yesterday. I lost about £25 in the end which felt like a bit a result. 
    Made plenty of hands but it seemed everytime I smashed a flop I'd get instant folds to my cbets and everytime I missed they came straight back over the top. 
    I can't complain, I put a few really bad beats on players myself. I was always behind and so to get it back to only £25 was pretty pleasing.
  • edited July 2014
    In Response to Re: Ramblings of an old man:
    In Response to Re: Ramblings of an old man : ? Ok, I give up Robert. I think you've really taken that entirely the wrong way. It was meant to be light hearted. A silly pic to tell you that I'm glad we're friends again. From the quote you've put in I guess you've seen it very differently. I like you a lot but it would seem that to everything I post you find a way of being offended. If the quote is aimed at me in than I'm very disappointed and upset by it.
    Posted by Jac35
    STOP LOOKING FOR HIDDEN MEANINGS!!!
    I love you bro - can't say clearer than that.


    as for the quote, you countered my Eminem with inbetweeners, which also sounds pretty sick, so I looked for an eminen reply about friends - and thought what he said was pretty apt for a poker player - in game - where clearly we might say sorry or unlucky after taking someone out but that is what we are trying to do - even to friends.

    Now what we can agree on is that between your eggshells and my insensitivities wires can easily get crossed

  • edited July 2014
    Life is really good right now. I love the summer,love the long nights, beer gardens, playing golf till late. World Cup has been great. 

    But yesterday was one of those days when things just kept going wrong.

    It all started well enough. Had a laugh when Micky Bullshiit at work collared me.
    "Paul, played golf yesterday and had a new problem. I was just hitting the ball too far off the tee. Every tee shot was like 340/350 yards and I was getting too close to the greens"

    Out for a walk in the morning and a dog came running out of a garden. Start barking and looking pretty aggressive. Just as the owner said "don't worry she doesn't bite" the little bastardd bit me. Well, it felt like it did but the skin wasn't pierced so that wasn't so bad.

    Got sidetracked and left really late for golf. Drove like a maniac to get there and made my tee time With a minute to spare. Dirty looks all round. Topped it off the first and had a mare. 

    Came home and played with Harry. He's really coming on. Want to show Pen how he's sitting up on his own. She comes into the room and he promptly fell forward and duffed his head on the carpet. Felt really bad. Brave little fella hardly murmured, just looked a little confused.

    Played some poker. Lost

    Went to the pub. Was running late again. Needed some cash. Cashpoint out of order. Ran across the road and got some money from the petrol station. Needed some cigs. No 20's. Great! 2 10's then. A £1 more.

    Got to pub. Sat down and knocked my pint everywhere. Good start. Some function going on and so beer garden really busy. Then bingo? starts. Ok, across the road to The Nags. Things are desperate when we go in The Nags. 

    Came home. Played some more poker. Lost
  • edited July 2014
    Took the plunge last night and bought into the roller for the first time. As I was playing that I thought I may as well do it properly and so also played the UKPC £48 sat, the £50b/h, the mini and the £10b/h.
    Absolutely loved it. As I've hardly played live all year this was my biggest buy in night of the year and it was a bit of a buzz playing for some significant prize money.

    I never really got going in the roller. Other than flopping quads early on for a small pot I was pretty card dead. I made a poor call with a full house when I think even Sammy any two George would have found the fold against the better full house. Really grinded it after that and with 36 left I shoved with Ace 10 from 10 bigs and Ace 9 called and hit a flush on the river.

    The £48 sat I got close to the seat. (Would have taken the cash). Again it was an a 10bb shove. This time with AK. I got called by AK and he made a 4flush on the river.

    The £50b/h was going quite well. I was 10/20 with a couple of heads. From around 10,000 I raised A 10. I think the blinds were 200/400. Got flatted by a similar stack. Flopped 10 7 5. I led for 850 and he more or less clicked it back. I thought my hand was good here and shoved. He called with 9's and I was drawing dead after the turn. He put my chips to good use and ended up getting over £600.

    I can't remember the exits in the other 2.

    So the end to all of them was a bit grim but these things happen. In most comps we play, we do get knocked out at some stage, that's the way it works. On another day those hands will go my way and I'll have a good night. 

    Some moaning from me over the weekend. God knows why. Having a bad round of golf in glorious weather and losing 3 hands at poker should hardly make it a bad weekend. I don't think I made any real mistakes on my exit hands. Maybe lose value long term with the shove with the ace 10 in the b/h? Any constructive critism appreciated.
    ....
    Railed a friend of sky poker for a couple of hours after I bust playing in the big $22. I won't name him as he's quite shy. He had a wonderful run. Over 6000 entered and he bust in 9th after flopping a set and getting done by a runner runner flush. A fantastic tun and so unlucky. $19k up top in that one


  • edited July 2014
    good read man good luck in the dtds outlaw
  • edited July 2014
    Ha, thank you Jackson. Not often I get described as shy ;)

    I do have to correct you on a couple of your figures (I know its the Ipad's fault....), it was almost 4,000 runners and I came 12th.

    The rest is unfortunately very true....88 on a QJ8 board with a couple of clubs, GII on the flop vs KxKc...filthy sweat on the turn as it was the 10c, and a final club on the river sealed my fate :( Still disappointed now but what can you do? I did get very lucky in a spot before that so swings and swongs as Tikay says.

    Was pretty cool sharing a table with Jack Ellwood and Ben Jones, who between them have won close to $5m online.
  • edited July 2014
    My Mums and Pennys birthdays are just a couple of days apart and so we all went out for a meal last night.
    Great food and really enjoyable.

    Started playing poker very late on and followed my biggest mtt losing night of the year with my biggest losing cash night. Played until 4.00 and so I feel wonderful just now. I had a few bad run outs but in truth I was the fish at the table. I played horribly.  4 tabling 50nl and being the worst player at each table can get expensive. Lost just over 3 buy ins in the end.

    Reward points were pretty good though :)

    Looks like the root canal may be without anesthetic after all.  Gulp

  • edited July 2014
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    Looks like the root canal may be without anesthetic after all.  Gulp
    Posted by Jac35
    I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy never mind a friend.

    I assume you mean without general as against local anaesthetic. They can numb the area very well these days with local injections, although I agree they may not be the most pleasant experience either.

    If it all sounds too much see if you can have it done under sedation. You still will be awake but in a dreamlike dosy state, a sort of half way house, but with no feeling of pain.

    glgl
  • edited July 2014
    In Response to Re: Ramblings of an old man:
    In Response to Re: Ramblings of an old man : I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy never mind a friend. I assume you mean without general as against local anaesthetic. They can numb the area very well these days with local injections, although I agree they may not be the most pleasant experience either. If it all sounds too much see if you can have it done under sedation. You still will be awake but in a dreamlike dosy state, a sort of half way house, but with no feeling of pain. glgl
    Posted by GELDY
    It was a joke

    I've had root canal before with local anaesthetic. It'll be the same this time. It's not particularly pleasant but I'm quite experienced nowadays in the dentists chair.

    I'll be brave :(
  • edited July 2014
    In Response to Re: Ramblings of an old man:
    In Response to Re: Ramblings of an old man : It was a joke I've had root canal before with local anaesthetic. It'll be the same this time. It's not particularly pleasant but I'm quite experienced nowadays in the dentists chair. I'll be brave :(
    Posted by Jac35
    well I fell for that one: hook, line and sinker - how can anyone joke about root canals!
    found this which will illustrate what we are talking about to those lucky enough never to have had to go through root canal work themselves

    http://giphy.com/gifs/EiDY11TtR56la

    oh, and i'm not really back, just making a few exceptions when I feel strongly enough.
    and to have a poster on another thread to suggest the other one is the best, well what would a lemon know?
  • edited July 2014
    Oh, thinking about it
    best you don't look at that link Paul
    it's so others know what you are about to go through
    whereas you already know and don't want/need reminding I'm sure
  • edited July 2014
    Someone has been deleting again ;)
  • edited July 2014
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    Someone has been deleting again ;)
    Posted by hhyftrftdr
    Yep
    Probably for the best that I don't put down how I feel right now.

    Poker holiday starts from now.
    Penny has the laptop and 1 tabling on the iPad isn't gonna happen.

    Going take a break from the forum as well

    Run well all.
  • edited July 2014
    In Response to Re: Ramblings of an old man:
    In Response to Re: Ramblings of an old man : Yep Probably for the best that I don't put down how I feel right now. Poker holiday starts from now. Penny has the laptop and 1 tabling on the iPad isn't gonna happen. Going take a break from the forum as well Run well all.
    Posted by Jac35
    Just in time for the sun:)

    Enjoy the break
  • edited July 2014
    Well the poker sabbatical continues but I like writing on here too much to stay away. So, although I continue to make myself look silly with my whole 5 day breaks I'll plough on and try and forget last week. :)

    I thought the golf was fantastic. Mcilroy is marvelous to watch when playing well. For his balance to be so perfect when he hits the ball so hard is incredible to watch. 
    There was one thing which is a huge bugbear for me with professional golf these days. Erne Els has always been a gentleman in the course but let himself down massively this week. Question. How can you hit the ball straight at a gallery and not shout? Answer. Because you want it to hit someone and bounce back into play. They all seem to do this put your arm out in the direction the balls going. I'm obviously old school but to me this is unlikely to be noticed by the galley from 200 yards away and I would prefer a shout. Maybe something like "fore"
    ..
    Derby sigh Thorne. Fantastic signing. Keeping the whole of last years midfield together is brilliant. COYR's
    ..
    What do you do? 
    Went for brunch yesterday. Yes, I know, Brunch. Penny likes it. Ordered eggs benedict. Yes, I know, eggs benedict. I like it.
    Food arrives at the table. Both eggs are hard. Hate this sort of thing but do send it back. 10 mins later next one arrives and is identical. Do you send it back again?
    ..
    Walking back through town I heard something that upset me and Penny was close to tears. Boy, maybe 6/7 is being chased by his mother. Probably a better way of describing her but 'rough' will do. She shouts 'get here now' He shouts back "no, because you'll hurt me" Just horrible, what chance has that poor little boy got in life.
    ...
    I may have grumbled a little last week :). Cpfc2010 is a friend and he patiently listened to me moaning away and so on.
    Was great to watch him last night. 5th in the main and 6th in the mini. Played great. Was very unlucky with his exits in both. JJ into QQ and QQ into KK. Took the beats in exactly the right manner and wished the table luck. Could have been a very big score with the jackpot as well. Good player, good bloke.

  • edited July 2014
    Thorne looks like a really great signing for your lot... very surprised West Brom let him go as he looked like someone that could have made the step up this year, but good news for Derby!

    I'm too British, but I'd probably not send the eggs back a second time.  Twice back to the kitchen and I'd be paranoid that the third lot, even if the eggs are cooked perfectly, are liable to have some of chef's 'extra special' ingredients.

    Think I'd be more likely to consider changing my mind about the restaurant and leaving to find another place to eat!

    ps that boy sounds like me and my mum when I was that age (albeit less of the rough, don't want to be too down on Ma Shakin)... and to be fair, I did normally deserve a clip most of the time. Probably helped me to become quite a nippy runner too....
  • edited July 2014
    pps - congrats on winning the 799m hand time game... will you be breaking your poker sabattical to use your free pass to win the main on tues/weds?
  • edited July 2014
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    pps - congrats on winning the 799m hand time game... will you be breaking your poker sabattical to use your free pass to win the main on tues/weds?
    Posted by shakinaces
    :)

    Had no idea that I'd won. Cheers mate.
    Tuesday main, lets go!
  • edited July 2014
    BOOM!
    I'm back

    Lost on the night but chuck in a bit of rakeback and I was £1.37 up on the night.
    The good times are back.Great to finish the month on a high. Laptop has been confiscated again.

    ..

    Fascinating thread on another forum at the minute. 
    Short story is 2/5 cash game. Guy bets £600 on river and drunk guy announces raise. A few seconds pass and he says "only joking" and mucks.
    Ruling?
  • edited July 2014
    In Response to Re: Ramblings of an old man:
    BOOM! I'm back Lost on the night but chuck in a bit of rakeback and I was £1.37 up on the night. The good times are back.Great to finish the month on a high. Laptop has been confiscated again. .. Fascinating thread on another forum at the minute.  Short story is 2/5 cash game. Guy bets £600 on river and drunk guy announces raise. A few seconds pass and he says "only joking" and mucks. Ruling?
    Posted by Jac35
    Thanks for the reminder Paul.

    The author of that thread is a good friend of mine, Rupinder "George" Bedi, & I'm sure he won't mind me posting the thing here.
     
    See next Post.....

    Here's George, smiling as always.



  • edited July 2014

    The question that George Bedi posed was......


    "...2/5 game at local. I'm not playing but a huge fuss kicks off.

    There's around 800 in the middle on the river of a 4 heart paired board. Player 1 has lead out for £600.

    Drunk guy stares him down playing around 1250 announces loudly "RAISE" after a few seconds he laughs and says "just kidding" and tries to muck his hand. Dealer stops him and states he has to raise. Drunk guy argues that he didn't realise. Floor is called and state he has to min raise. Player grabs his chips and refuses to put them on the pot. Floor states if he doesn't put chips in he will be asked to leave to which player 2 says fine. Player 1 says whoa whoa whoa what about the £600?

    Do the casino force the chips out of his hand? What happens of he just ups and leave with a the chips? Should the casino make good the money player 1 has lost?...."
  • edited July 2014
    In Response to Re: Ramblings of an old man:
    The question that George Bedi posed was...... "...2/5 game at local. I'm not playing but a huge fuss kicks off. There's around 800 in the middle on the river of a 4 heart paired board. Player 1 has lead out for £600. Drunk guy stares him down playing around 1250 announces loudly "RAISE" after a few seconds he laughs and says "just kidding" and tries to muck his hand. Dealer stops him and states he has to raise. Drunk guy argues that he didn't realise. Floor is called and state he has to min raise. Player grabs his chips and refuses to put them on the pot. Floor states if he doesn't put chips in he will be asked to leave to which player 2 says fine. Player 1 says whoa whoa whoa what about the £600? Do the casino force the chips out of his hand? What happens of he just ups and leave with a the chips? Should the casino make good the money player 1 has lost?...."
    Posted by Tikay10
    It seems as though it was just us two who found this interesting then Tony. The biggest surprise to me is that this kind of situation has never arisen in any games I've played. :)
    What are your thoughts on it?
    I'm a bit lost to be honest.

    Drunk guy never actually intended to raise. Don't make him put the money in and just warn him?
    Drunk guy is angle shooting. Make him put the money in?
    Common sense should prevail and we should let him off? How does player 1 feel about that?
    Ruling is he owes the money. He refuses to put the chips in and instead puts them in his pocket. What do we do now? We can't physically take them from him. When he reaches the cash desk and tries to cash,in we withhold the money?
    If drunk guy announced at the roulette table "£600 on 17 black" and then after it fell elsewhere said "only joking" I strongly suspect the casino would ensure they got their money.
    The rest of the table say to let him off, it was a mistake. What's the feeling around the table an hour later when he's stacked them all and pulled the same trick again?
    What do we think would have happened if player 1 had insta mucked having heard "raise"?
  • edited July 2014
    There must be some way of physically removing the chips, what would happen if someone just grabbed at some chips off the table or someone else's stack? Wouldn't be pretty that's for sure. Key here I think is assessing the intention. Can the dealer/floor influence their decision based on what they believe the player's standard is?? Because if it's an angle shoot then he's treating as a sort of freeroll misclick. Interesting that a few seconds passed. Given the other player didn't snap call him off there's a chance the raise would've got through!

    Always going to be mistakes live, I like to see common sense prevail, but tough one this 
  • edited July 2014
    In Response to Re: Ramblings of an old man:
    In Response to Re: Ramblings of an old man : It seems as though it was just us two who found this interesting then Tony. The biggest surprise to me is that this kind of situation has never arisen in any games I've played. :) What are your thoughts on it? I'm a bit lost to be honest. Drunk guy never actually intended to raise. Don't make him put the money in and just warn him? Drunk guy is angle shooting. Make him put the money in? Common sense should prevail and we should let him off? How does player 1 feel about that? Ruling is he owes the money. He refuses to put the chips in and instead puts them in his pocket. What do we do now? We can't physically take them from him. When he reaches the cash desk and tries to cash,in we withhold the money? If drunk guy announced at the roulette table "£600 on 17 black" and then after it fell elsewhere said "only joking" I strongly suspect the casino would ensure they got their money. The rest of the table say to let him off, it was a mistake. What's the feeling around the table an hour later when he's stacked them all and pulled the same trick again? What do we think would have happened if player 1 had insta mucked having heard "raise"?
    Posted by Jac35
    Bolded part. There is not a hope in hell I would let them get away with that either he pays or the casino does. Harsh but he wouldn't do it again.
  • edited July 2014
    I've followed that thread Jackson....

    Tough one really, and I think you would have needed to be sat at the table to really know if it was a drunken error or something more sinister.

  • edited July 2014
    Bear in mind I say this as a pittance-stakes player that has hardly ever played in a casino...

    The way the post is written it sounds like the guy was purely having a bit of fun, the sort of thing that a lot of people probably do in home games with no angle shooting intentions.

    For me, if there is a want for recs to get involved in games then poker needs to be accessible and, most of all, fun for them to take part in.

    Being too onerous with rules (of which there appear to be a very large number) will be the opposite of that. I mean, drunk comes and sits at your game (you rub hands with glee), do you really expect him to read a whole poker rule book to know and understand every rule before he plays?  Or are you happy for him to just get stuck straight in?  If it's the latter, is that a sort of angle shoot, pre-empting that you'll catch him out in some way with a ruling he's unaware of?

    Sure it's a learning experience for the guy involved if he has to give up the cash, but for the longer term health of the game it would seem better value to warn him rather than have him leave the casino feeling like he's just been 'robbed' of several hundred quid and that being enough to put him (and maybe others) off from coming back and playing again.

    Obv if it happens after a warning or if someone who was present read it in a more sinister light, then yeah, he has to be taken to town.
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