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Ramblings of an old man

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  • shakinacesshakinaces
    edited July 2014
    ps the wealth of live rules is a large part of why I haven't gone to play live more often, would be paranoid of either a) falling foul of one of them or b) local reg/regs making up a feasible-sounding rule that I'd be too naive to realise was them just conning me out of a few quid.
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  • GELDYGELDY
    edited July 2014
    pay or leave sounds reasonable for the situation as described
    no way should you sting a drunk rec on his first violation
    but a mere warning may not be sufficient once the floor has ruled he should pay. 
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  • Jac35Jac35
    edited July 2014
    In Response to Re: Ramblings of an old man:
    ps the wealth of live rules is a large part of why I haven't gone to play live more often, would be paranoid of either a) falling foul of one of them or b) local reg/regs making up a feasible-sounding rule that I'd be too naive to realise was them just conning me out of a few quid.
    Posted by shakinaces
    If I'm telling you how to suck eggs here then feel to tell me to sod off.

    Please don't be put off playing live by this sort of thing. In my experience it's very rare.
    You're in a great location regarding live poker. DTD have beginners comps (don't be patronised by that) nightly. They're a great way of getting to grips with live poker at small cost. The idea of these comps is to encourage new live players. Everyone is in the same boat and the dealers are very committed to helping people understand some of the nuances of live play.

    Live cash games usually start at 50/1. You'd be amazed at the standard. I would suggest that a decent 10nl player online would have a decent edge at 50/1 live. However, DTD cash games at 50/1 can be tough and we need to be selective. These days I tend to play cash at my local Genting. Even I can win at these games!
    ...
    Things have changed dramatically since I've started playing live. Don't worry about regs making decisions. It's rare now they games are not dealer dealt and they will look after the table just fine.

    When I first started, admittedly it could be quite intimidating to new players. The dark, smoky room at Gala Notts with Taffy, Ash, Jimmy etc smiling at you as you sat down was pretty tough. Self deal was the norm and it wasn't always pleasant.
    At Derby in the rebuys they used to collect the money and occasionally update the blackboard! to show the rebuys, Tikay has a story about that (he got quite uppity one night I believe).

    Poker has changed dramatically for the better over the last few years and live is immensley enjoyable. You get to  have fun and meet some great characters.


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  • Tikay10Tikay10
    edited July 2014
    In Response to Re: Ramblings of an old man:
    Bear in mind I say this as a pittance-stakes player that has hardly ever played in a casino... The way the post is written it sounds like the guy was purely having a bit of fun, the sort of thing that a lot of people probably do in home games with no angle shooting intentions. For me, if there is a want for recs to get involved in games then poker needs to be accessible and, most of all, fun for them to take part in. Being too onerous with rules (of which there appear to be a very large number) will be the opposite of that. I mean, drunk comes and sits at your game (you rub hands with glee), do you really expect him to read a whole poker rule book to know and understand every rule before he plays?  Or are you happy for him to just get stuck straight in?  If it's the latter, is that a sort of angle shoot, pre-empting that you'll catch him out in some way with a ruling he's unaware of? Sure it's a learning experience for the guy involved if he has to give up the cash, but for the longer term health of the game it would seem better value to warn him rather than have him leave the casino feeling like he's just been 'robbed' of several hundred quid and that being enough to put him (and maybe others) off from coming back and playing again. Obv if it happens after a warning or if someone who was present read it in a more sinister light, then yeah, he has to be taken to town.
    Posted by shakinaces
    That, my friend, is a great Post, & I agree almost entirely.

    I never responded on the other thread next door, there was no point, as everyone gets a bit precious about these things.
     
    Poker players can be so fickle.

    It was a cash table, & included a few decent regs. There was a drunk bloke, splashing about in pots. Who in their right mind would want to get rid of him, he was the table mark? 

    OK, he did a daft thing, but give him enough rope, & he'll do all his money. And if he is playing poker whilst drunk, he deserves to do the lot. And any player at the table who wanted to punish him would be mad. OK, so he got away with a bit of a stunt, intended or otherwise. So what? His money is there for the taking.
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  • robertodrobertod
    edited July 2014
     booze + poker = thai girl. financial ruin.
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  • shakinacesshakinaces
    edited July 2014
    In Response to Re: Ramblings of an old man:
    In Response to Re: Ramblings of an old man : If I'm telling you how to suck eggs here then feel to tell me to sod off. Please don't be put off playing live by this sort of thing. In my experience it's very rare. You're in a great location regarding live poker. 
    It's rare now they games are not dealer dealt and they will look after the table just fine. Posted by Jac35
    Hi Jac,

    No need for you to sod off, all fair points.

    The self-deal, from my two casino poker experiences, was probably the most nerve-wracking part of playing live. It felt like someone had cut my thumbs off as I was trying to shuffle and when I mis-dealt (two cards had stuck together) it did not go down well with the locals!! (that was in Blackpool mind you...)

    The only other time I played 'live' (excluding home/pub games with mates) was for the Sky cameras a few years back (hopefully footage long since deleted!!) with a bunch of live poker 'virgins' and it was way more enjoyable with a dealer, you could just relax, play some cards and have some banter. The only bit that wasn't enjoyable was donking my chips off to Dan Lobb :(

    Had hoped to join in an SPT, but the mere mention of those appears to be a sore point on the forum these days!!
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  • Jac35Jac35
    edited July 2014
    Today has been a rather uncomfortable day at work. For me certainly but I'm guessing even more so for one of my colleagues.

    It all started pleasantly enough. We were sent out in a van together. My friend has a rather short temper and doesn't suffer fools gladly but bizarrely enough we get on very well.

    As it was so hot I decided to buy a large bottle of Pepsi Max. Upon reaching our destination I took a large swig from my bottle. I then screwed the top back on and placed the bottle on the shelf above me and exited the van. My colleague then drove off to find a parking space. Just 30 seconds had elapsed when to my surprise he screamed to a halt alongside me and jumped out of the van. He started swearing a lot and so it was quite difficult to comprehend what the problem was. 

    Oddly enough he seemed to be very wet. Soaking in fact. His hair was dripping wet as were his shirt and trousers. I couldn't make much sense of what the lunatic in front of me was saying and so decided to inspect the van to see if there were any clues there. It was very strange. It appeared to be raining in the van. There was plenty of liquid pouring through the shelf and interior light.

    As I couldn't understand what he was saying I tried to deduce for myself what had happened. Later on it would appear that my guesswork was pretty accurate.

    Just possibly I hadn't quite screwed the lid on properly. As my friend drove off out the corner of his eye he noticed a bottle top land on the passenger seat. A little like in the films when a pin falls out of a grenade there was a momentary pause. After that there was horror on my friends face as an incredible amount of Pepsi max came hurtling towards him.

    I now considered my options.
    Laugh and hope that he'll see the funny side? Nope
    Claim that the bottle was faulty? Nope
    Run? Nope
    Say "sorry mate"? I chose this one. It didn't really seem to be enough but I think it was the best of my limited options.

    My friend seems to have calmed down a little now and I no longer think that my life is in danger. I am keeping a safe distance though, just in case like.


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  • Jac35Jac35
    edited July 2014
    Yippee!

    Persuaded Mrs J to let me loose with the laptop for one night only. It's a bit sad really but I was itching to play after only playing for a couple of hours in total since last Thursday.

    I won some monies!!

    Not very much but it's a start. When confidence is low it's a nice feeling to get that unusual sight of seeing your account balance slightly higher at the end of your session than it was at the start.

    Sadly it's been hidden again now :(
    ....
    The mighty rams finally get their man. Our biggest deal in the last few years as well. He gets injured 34 mins into his debut and is out for the season. Sigh
    .....
    Went to the range tonight and hit the ball great. Where did that come from? Let's see if I do the same tomorrow (highly unlikely)

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  • hhyftrftdrhhyftrftdr
    edited July 2014
    In Response to Re: Ramblings of an old man:
    Yippee! Persuaded Mrs J to let me loose with the laptop for one night only. It's a bit sad really but I was itching to play after only playing for a couple of hours in total since last Thursday. I won some monies!! Not very much but it's a start. When confidence is low it's a nice feeling to get that unusual sight of seeing your account balance slightly higher at the end of your session than it was at the start. Sadly it's been hidden again now :( .... The mighty rams finally get their man. Our biggest deal in the last few years as well. He gets injured 34 mins into his debut and is out for the season. Sigh ..... Went to the range tonight and hit the ball great. Where did that come from? Let's see if I do the same tomorrow (highly unlikely)
    Posted by Jac35
    Yeah, when I feel like I need some sporting competition, I often go and browse the garden furniture and BBQ's there.
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  • TENTENTENTENTENTEN
    edited July 2014
    good posts outlaw
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  • Jac35Jac35
    edited July 2014
    Radio

    I used to love Radio 1 years ago. Chris Evans was brilliant as a presenter. Funny and always interesting. I remember being captivated listening to him rant for half an hour shortly before he left. It was when he was doing TFI on Friday nights and thought it was most unfair that his boss at the BBC wouldn't let him have Fridays off to prepare for his Channel 4 show.

    He's now on Radio 2 and we have to listen to that at work, it's dreadful. One segment that really annoys me is the kids 'what did you do for the first time yesterday?' He then asks then to rate themselves out of 10. The normal reply is something like "a million out of 10 Chris" to which he replies with 'brilliant, well done" Instead of congratulating them he should be educating them and explaining that a million out of 10 is actually impossible.

    Occasionally someone switches us over to Radio 1. We certainly get educated on there. The new items are fabulous. Normally something along the lines of
    "Yesterday, David Cameron, he's the Prime Minister and has to make lots of important decisions, was in talks with George Osborne, he's the clever man who looks after money.,,,"

    Still, I suppose it's better than local radio where it's something like 'Richie and Trace in the morning'
    Richie, who is of same comic genius as say Stan Boardmam keeps coming out with lines that make you wonder if Traces sides are actually splitting. They both have amazing, exciting lives and they'll tell you all about what they got up to last night during the next hour.

    Radio, Bah
    I turn it off in my car these days and put on my 'Learn to be Happy' tape.
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  • mrsduckmrsduck
    edited July 2014
    Try BBC 6 music xx
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  • SlipwaterSlipwater
    edited July 2014
    In Response to Re: Ramblings of an old man:
    Try BBC 6 music xx
    Posted by mrsduck
    Christ I didn't even know the dial went to a BBC 6! I'm guessing that must be Al Jolson era, right?
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  • Jac35Jac35
    edited July 2014
    Going brunching again in a few minutes. Gonna gamble with the eggs benedict. Bad beat if they're hard again.
    Good Sunday lined up. Brunch with Mrs J and Baby J. Shopping for a swimsuit for the boy after that.
    Weather a touch cooler so I'm going to tackle the lawn. A couple of other jobs to do which and then a round of golf early evening. A few beers after that and then might just load up some poker.

    Had a cracking meal at Rolleston last night. We took the Grandparents again and it was really nice. Could live there as well. Kirk Ireton, Rolleston, Dalbury Lees. They'd all do very nicely. I like  where I am now but it's getting really big. I love the gentle pace of the county villages.

    Have a nice Sunday
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  • bromley04bromley04
    edited July 2014
    Hi mate...lomg time reader and a poster when not being lazy :)

    Loving your recent posts mate...please keep them up and the post about the Pepsi Max incident was hilarious.  I hope there isn't a similar 'accidental' incident that befalls you when your 'friend' is around lol.

    See you at the UKPC mini for at least a beer I hope?
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  • Jac35Jac35
    edited July 2014
    Went pub.
    As I was waiting for an age to get served behind someone ordering 6 halfs for the bridge team I has a brainwave.
    No one is allowed to nick this genius idea by the way. Gonna be on Dragons Den soon.
    Move over Costa Express, I give you Peroni express. Bar staff no longer required and happy customers.
    This time next year I'll be a millionaire.

    Right now I'm not a millionaire though and people like Bromley keep tempting me with the mini. So close to buying in.Should just do it. It'll be a great day (hopefully 2)
    Anyone want 10% with no mark up just let me know. From a large sample of 3 games I have a 33% 1st place finish in Sky live events. Worth a punt! :)
    I could spout on that selling a bit would be to guard against variance but I prefer to be truthful in these matters.
    It's actually so that I'll have a few quid left over to buy a couple of beers.
    ...
    Played golf early evening
    :(
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  • gazza127gazza127
    edited July 2014
    In Response to Re: Ramblings of an old man:
    Went pub. As I was waiting for an age to get served behind someone ordering 6 halfs for the bridge team I has a brainwave. No one is allowed to nick this genius idea by the way. Gonna be on Dragons Den soon. Move over Costa Express, I give you Peroni express. Bar staff no longer required and happy customers. This time next year I'll be a millionaire. Right now I'm not a millionaire though and people like Bromley keep tempting me with the mini. So close to buying in.Should just do it. It'll be a great day (hopefully 2) Anyone want 10% with no mark up just let me know. From a large sample of 3 games I have a 33% 1st place finish in Sky live events. Worth a punt! :) I could spout on that selling a bit would be to guard against variance but I prefer to be truthful in these matters. It's actually so that I'll have a few quid left over to buy a couple of beers. ... Played golf early evening :(
    Posted by Jac35
    Screww the mini... play the main!

    apparently (screww) is a bad word which is why I put two w's.  I mean come on.  We are all over 18 here.  Whos going to be offended by that?  Moreover how am i going to give an accurate step by step update of my wardrobe and chest of drawers building on my diary for all those interested?  Pffffft.
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  • Jac35Jac35
    edited July 2014
    The laptop was allowed out tonight.
    I joined the Outlaws team a while ago and haven't really played much in the team games and so regged the 3 DTD games. Loads of fun, really enjoy the banter in them.
    Fchd maybe interested to know that one of my team mates knocked me out the first game :)
    Bust them all with no cashes. Just short of the bubble in last game.
    Played a few sats and took the cash from a couple where I got seats.
    1 Omaha dym and 5 normal ones. Cashed in 4. Overall up about £20 on the night. Enjoyable evening.
    ....
    There's a poker player I talk to from London. He struggles to understand some of my comments. I think he's a weirdo.

    'mardy' or 'mard-arse'
    'nesh'
    'jitty'

    Everyone knows what they mean don't they?

    In Devon on holiday last month I asked for a sausage cob and was answered with
    "what? you mean sausage bap?"

    There's a book which will help you understand all things East Midlands if you're struggling

    'Ey up mi duck'

    Warning- it could hurt your head



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  • TENTENTENTENTENTEN
    edited July 2014
    wp tonight paul nice to say hi & rail you'll be pleased to hear sam took down dtd2 yo go outlaws & keep the posts comin'
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  • dangerdaidangerdai
    edited July 2014
    Hi mate,
    I enjoyed our little battle last night im pretty sure you ko'd me in dtd 1or 2 (cant remember which one it was)  and I was sitting next to you in later stages of dtd3, You are one tough player to play against very unlucky on your exit in 3 and very well played keep up the good work and all the best...
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  • Jac35Jac35
    edited July 2014
    In Response to Re: Ramblings of an old man:
    Hi mate, I enjoyed our little battle last night im pretty sure you ko'd me in dtd 1or 2 (cant remember which one it was)  and I was sitting next to you in later stages of dtd3, You are one tough player to play against very unlucky on your exit in 3 and very well played keep up the good work and all the best...
    Posted by dangerdai
    Hi Dai
    Thanks a lot. 
    Good to see you put the chips to good use:) Think you came 2nd in the end?

    Saw your post about the live tourney. Great result wp.  
    Just one thing. I think you could have negotiated a bit with the deal. I know it can be uncomfortable saying no but you've got every right to do that if you're not happy. 
    I bet they still would have snapped you hand off if you'd asked for another £50 or so. The short stack certainly would!  He seemed to do very well out of the deal :)
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  • dangerdaidangerdai
    edited July 2014
    Thank you I finished 3rd,

    Looking back now yes I should have negotiated  it was only the 3rd time I had ever played live and the 1st time I had been in this position, the other 3 players put no pressure on me in fairness to them and where really friendly and helpful especially the shortstack lol (now I realise why).. I will remember your advise for next time and do some negotiating to get a better deal many thanks for your  help and advise mate and best of luck at the tables..
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  • bromley04bromley04
    edited July 2014
    In Response to Re: Ramblings of an old man:
    Went pub. As I was waiting for an age to get served behind someone ordering 6 halfs for the bridge team I has a brainwave. No one is allowed to nick this genius idea by the way. Gonna be on Dragons Den soon. Move over Costa Express, I give you Peroni express. Bar staff no longer required and happy customers. This time next year I'll be a millionaire. Right now I'm not a millionaire though and people like Bromley keep tempting me with the mini. So close to buying in.Should just do it. It'll be a great day (hopefully 2) Anyone want 10% with no mark up just let me know. From a large sample of 3 games I have a 33% 1st place finish in Sky live events. Worth a punt! :) I could spout on that selling a bit would be to guard against variance but I prefer to be truthful in these matters. It's actually so that I'll have a few quid left over to buy a couple of beers. ... Played golf early evening :(
    Posted by Jac35
    Seeing as I am the devil on your shoulder I will buy 10% mate. Money on the day ok or do you need it earlier?
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  • hhyftrftdrhhyftrftdr
    edited July 2014
    Yeah I'll have 10% as well please.

    Shillings ok?

    Wing us your details, I won't keep you holding on like Adam ;)
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  • gazza127gazza127
    edited July 2014
    Can i have 10% too?  (no pressure)
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  • Jac35Jac35
    edited July 2014
    That's are a turn up for the books!
    I'll say yes and thank you very much now before you all come to your senses :)

    Adam - I can just about hang on :) I'll raid Harrys moneybox for the next week. Looking to play the Saturday Day 1 but work may mean it has to be Friday. Which day 1 are you playing? If i do play on Friday I'll be coming up on the Saturday as well. Maybe meet up for dinner before we start?

    Jon and Gazza - I'll PM you details.

    ...

    Edit
    Will be playing the Saturday Day 1
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  • bromley04bromley04
    edited July 2014
    In Response to Re: Ramblings of an old man:
    That's are a turn up for the books! I'll say yes and thank you very much now before you all come to your senses :) Adam - I can just about hang on :) I'll raid Harrys moneybox for the next week. Looking to play the Saturday Day 1 but work may mean it has to be Friday. Which day 1 are you playing? If i do play on Friday I'll be coming up on the Saturday as well. Maybe meet up for dinner before we start? Jon and Gazza - I'll PM you details. ... Edit Will be playing the Saturday Day 1
    Posted by Jac35

    Hi mate...we will be there for the Saturday Day 1 and we already have the hotel booked (very organised for us) so we will be staying over.  I seem to think the day starts at 12pm so we might not have chance for dinner before.  No doubt we will find time during the course of the day and at the end when we are bagging up massive stacks we can have a couple to celebrate :)  See you there!

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  • Tikay10Tikay10
    edited July 2014
    In Response to Re: Ramblings of an old man:
    In Response to Re: Ramblings of an old man : Hi mate...we will be there for the Saturday Day 1 and we already have the hotel booked (very organised for us) so we will be staying over.  I seem to think the day starts at 12pm so we might not have chance for dinner before.  No doubt we will find time during the course of the day and at the end when we are bagging up massive stacks we can have a couple to celebrate :)  See you there!
    Posted by bromley04
    Hi Adam,

    Yes, Noon start on Saturday.

    I was thinking of playing this myself, actually, on the Thursday or Friday, whilst it is a little quieter.

    However, if Her Ladyship is playing on the Saturday, I may defer until then. I can barely imagine how much fun it would be to share a table with the Goddess of Fashion.      
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  • Bromley023Bromley023
    edited July 2014
    In Response to Re: Ramblings of an old man:
    In Response to Re: Ramblings of an old man : Hi Adam, Yes, Noon start on Saturday. I was thinking of playing this myself, actually, on the Thursday or Friday, whilst it is a little quieter. However, if Her Ladyship is playing on the Saturday, I may defer until then. I can barely imagine how much fun it would be to share a table with the Goddess of Fashion.  
    Posted by Tikay10
    How have I ended up getting abuse in this?!
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  • Jac35Jac35
    edited July 2014
    OK, we're in.

    Popped over to DTD tonight and I am now regged for next Saturday Day1c.
    Investors will be pleased to know that I'm on fire right now.
    Played 2 Dyms, won 2 Dyms tonight. As Dev might say, I've booked the win and I'm going to spend the next couple of hours leading Derby to the the Champions League final at Fifa. Just a small matter of avoiding defeat to Barcelona at the Nou Camp after winning the semi first leg 1-0.
    Wonder what reception Neymar is going to get from the home fans. Bit of a bargain at £36 million I thought!
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