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Is it just PLO8 your playing or are you dabbling at PLO or NLO as well. If not are you not tempted to when traffic is qiuet?
Paul
EDIT - Hi Tikay . Just read your comments on another thread regarding the redtooth leaugue. I,ve played it a few times in a local pub and am looking at getting back into it but can,t decide whether to play in a pub where they have the redtooth leaugue or the Nuts leaugue as they are both played locally. What would you reccomend ?
Thx
Paul
Morning all.
I've not forgotten the questions/comments by Gelders, Spanners Man, Churchy, Pommy, Gerardirl & MP33, & will reply to all of them tomorrow, bit short of time this morning, what with this & that.
Also I got a lot of interest on the Tables last night about my night out at the GUKPT Omaha, I'll write up a short - because it was short, but VERY eventful - experience. For now, it was great fun, I can tell you that. It was not possible to reply to the questions in the chat boxes last night, as I had too many Tables on the go.
I must say, is there a friendlier bunch in poker than those who play PLO8? Everyone is so kind, polite, & there are barely any narky comments when bad beats go off.
There were some real shockers last night, but apart from the usual suspects, people just laughed it off, "no worries, next case" sorta thing. Play enough games, & it all evens out, of course.
Friday 7th February
Played 51
Won 29
Lost 22
Split....
£2.25 - Played 18, won 10, Lost 8
£5.50 - Played 24, won 14 lost 10
£11.00 - Played 9, won 5, Lost 4
PROFIT/LOSS on Day £4.00
PROFIT/LOSS per game £0.08
REWARD POINTS = 259
BANKROLL at close of Play = £1,064.86
REWARD POINTS at close of play = 1,064 (= £10.64)
February to date........
Played 200
Won 120
Lost 80
Win-rate, January, 60.00%
PROFIT/LOSS in January, £181.30
Profit/Loss per game = £0.91
HUGE session last night, the traffic was really good, & if time permitted, could have played a lot more. I think 51 in one session is a PB.
Ran really bad early on, (I was 0 for 5 in my first 5 @ £2.25!) but it squared up later, &, as seems to be the case when I get behind early, I really focus hard towards the end, & won 10 of the last 13.
I was pretty sure I had lost money on the night, so it was a nice surprise to see I'd finished a whole £4 ahead. £4 from 51 games, lol. Setting the world on fire, or what?
Not very impressive, I suppose, but I'd have settled for any profit before I started, & that is the 5th straight day I've made a profit, so the new systems seem to be working OK so far, though it is early days yet I suppose.
£4 profit sounds a bit daft, but considering I staked, including Reg Fees, over £270, there was some serious downside possible, I'll happily settle for that.
Last night was also the 3rd session under my new "Tiled Table" preference, which permits me to play more games, & it was the 3rd straight session where I've earned over 250 Reward Points in a session. I was really doubtful for my targeted 3,000 Reward Points this month, due to UKPC, but I have a chance now.
The number of games played helps, of course, the more games, the less variance.
A most enjoyable evening, the atmo on all the Tables was really warm & friendly.
Hope to see a few of you tonight, another session planned, though I very much doubt we'll see as much traffic tonight.
What an amazing thing that, between us, we've built so much liquidity in PLO8 DYM's. 'Stars apart, I can't imagine many sites get that much PLO8 SNG action, remarkable for a site this size really, & just proves that players have the power to change things.
Have a great Saturday.
Saturday 8th February
Played 40
Won 28
Lost 12
Split....
£2.25 - Played 16, won 13, Lost 3
£5.50 - Played 21, won 13 lost 8
£11.00 - Played 3, won 3, Lost 0
PROFIT/LOSS on Day £57.50
PROFIT/LOSS per game £1.44
REWARD POINTS = 182
BANKROLL at close of Play = £1,122.36
REWARD POINTS at close of play = 1,064 (= £12.47)
February to date........
Played 240
Won 149
Lost 91
Win-rate, January, 62.08%
PROFIT/LOSS in January, £238.80
Profit/Loss per game = £0.99
Wow, nights don't go much better than that.
Needless to say, I ran ultra-good all evening.
After the dark days of January, when I could not seem to do much right, February has been the complete opposite (so far....) & that was the 6th profitable night on the bounce, & puts me a whopping £238 ahead in just 7 sessions.
It's unsustainable, of course, & the super downswing is lurking, ready to pounce.
What a great game poker is, just when you think you can't beat the game, along comes Mr Heater, & then, just as you start to ooze confidence, Mr Cooler enters, stage left.
My run-good was almost embarrassing last night, & I felt bad for Alexis, who is a true Gent, & stalwart of the PLO8 DYM's here. I got in in SO bad against him on one occasion, but inevitably, I had him drawing dead @ both ends with 2 cards to spare. Wev are not supposed to apologize in poker, the Kool Kids get all stroppy, but I genuinely felt sorry for Alexis last night, & said as much.
Brutal game when running bad, greatest game ever when running good. Weird, but simply fantastic how it works.
Decent traffic last night for a Saturday, hopefully a bit busier tonight. I managed 40 games, mostly £2.5 & £5.50, but that's OK for a Saturday, I think.
Hope you all had a grand Saturday, on or off the Tables, & Sunday will be equally pleasant.
Hard to say, luck was not in the equation, but it sure helps.
If pushed, I'd probably say the increased volume, coupled with using Tiled Tables, has helped most.
The extra volume dilutes variance, & the Tiled Tables mean I can see where I am on all my Tables in a glance, without tap-tapping the tabs for each table.
I sort of "grade" my priority Tables, hightest priority goes to tables where we are down to 4, or where I am short of chips, & I can see all of this on one screen at the same time, so that has helped a lot.
I'm not interested in Tables where we are 6 handed, or not yet reached Level 4, they are meaningless, & if I'm busy, I'll almost ignore them.
The one other thing that has most helped is almost entirely eliminating (almort....) limping, even in Levels 1 & 2. If the hand is worth playing, I Raise it up, if I don't feel I can raise, I fold.
When we get a decent Raising hand, I raise, & generally get 1 or 2 callers. If the flop comes 2 x high cards, I can c-bet with ease, as it is almost always the case that the pre-flop callers are calling to hit a low. Amazing, really, how people call to try & win half. If the flop comes 3 low cards, I generally just let the hand go, no point risking my chips to chop the pot & get half back.
Hope you are running good & enjoying the game.
You make a fair point, & making all the changes at once means it becomes difficult to see which ones worked, & to what degree.
Guess I just got a bit lucky, as it seems to be OK so far, though the current run is not sustainable.
I could have made the changes one by one, month or week at a time I suppose, but at my age, time is not on my side, so I need to take the short cuts.
My life is crammed with too many things to play mornings at the moment, but yes, it has crossed my mind.
I have a little dream, actually. Retirement, or being shown the door, looms ever nearer, & when it happens, I'll be fine with it, some things I'll miss terribly, but it will give me the time & space to do other things.
There is way too much hassle in my life, aggro & haters everywhere, & I've had enough, & so the prospect of retiring, & just doing my own thing has its appeals.
If I could make a bit more money playing the game, it'd be a dream come true to just play poker every day, & not have to be in harness.
I don't need much money to get by in life, & if I could play more hours, who knows?
Ha, it's good to dream, eh?
Hope the family are well, & you are doing OK with the PLO8.
My back is worse, as it happens, I walk around all stoopy, & groan & chunter like an old man, oohing & aahing.
It's to be expected I suppose, with age comes these little health problems, the body is like an old car, it gradually wears out. Lot of miles on my clock, let me tell you.....
Thanks for the reply.
Glad that you have found a formula that works for you.
I don't play anywhere near the volume that you do but i am still very much enjoying it.
Tried a couple of HU PLO8 games recently which were very interesting and with the rake being a lot lower i may play some more.
Running good?
Only played 6 DYM's yesterday and cashed in 5 , so not too shabby.
The other one i busted out early with a straight on a paired board , and i just couldn't lay it down even though i knew oppo probably had FH, which of course he did.
Gl at the tables Sir.
I don't mind peeps stealing my Blionds, I really don't. More money/chips are lost defending Blinds than almost anything else. Let them steal, I don't care, & I don't care if they know. If I have a hand, they'll soon know about it.
There is a very important point here. When we defend our Blind, or CALL a raise, we are dancing to someone else's tune. I don't like that, not one bit.
I want to play hands when I want, on MY terms, when it suits ME, not be forced to do things by others. I think this is a vastly under-estimated facet of poker.
Every time I raise it up, & someone calls......they are dancing to MY tune. They are DEFENDING. I am ATTACKING. I CHOOSE to Raise. They feel obliged to DEFEND.
So yes, folks can steal my Blinds easily, & I don't mind them doing it, not at all. I'm only entering pots on MY terms, when it suits ME. This is hugely important, imo.
Should I vary my methods? Yes, of course, & I throw in a few curve balls now & then. If, say, Mr Thief is harvesting my Blinds too much, I'll maybe send him a little warning shot when least expected, & now & then, I do limp or peel, just to confuse those who are paying attention.
A chapo told me last night in the ChatBox that he ALWAYS calls my Raises if he has a suited Ace. Yikes. Good Luck with that! He'll win a nice pot once in 40 or 50 attempts......
Hope you are enjoying your transition to PLO8.
For those not aware - Gerardirl is, arguably, the most consistently profitable, & accomplished, PLO DYM player at low stakes on Sky Poker, I'd hazard a guess, & with help from Mr S Scope. Now he is trying PLO8. I might just move across to PLO soon, & try & rev the liquidity up, as we did with PLO8. If anyone comes along, beware Gerardirl, he plays real good.
The Live Event details will follow. Not pretty reading, but no matter, I had an abolute ball.
I'm just playing PLO8. I very much enjoy PLO, too, & may switch to it soon, next month maybe, not decided yet.
NLO? Not for me, never never never, I think it is a truly dreadful abomination of a game, though it is subjective, & I don't mind that others may enjoy it.
The whole point of Pot Limit games is that they have so many subtle nuances, & we can't just bully our way around.
It is an outdated & out of fashion view, of course, Pot Limit, even in Texas Hold Em, is almost dead these days, it is 99% No Limit.
It's just personal, but to me, it is Pot Limit, by a country mile. Each to their own, eh?
Someone earlier asked about HU PLO8. I'm pretty sure the lads would beat me up good & proper at that. I'd love to be able to play it, as there are bigger games available, & the DYM's only go up to £11, but I'm sure I'd get proper beaten up, as I suck at Heads Up.
Redtooth or Nuts? Six of one, half a dozen of the other really. I kniow the Nuts people personally, they are good people, but both are good "academies" for poker players. It is SO importsnt for poker as a whole that these leagues exist, they are the seedcorn of poker in the future. That's why my time with APAT was so important to me, & it still sits top of my "personal" CV I think. It was a shame that a commercial conflict of interest meant I had to step down as Chairman, but really, I was not doing much by then, the hard work was in the early years.
Jeez, we encountered some hate when we first announced it, you've never seen the like! Grown up poker structures for recreationals & newbies? What, like the Big Boys had, but affordable? Don't be daft.....
Now every poker player can play grown up structures at affordable prices. What a change, over just 6 or 7 years.
As you may have guessed, I'm in a slightly reflective mood today, but I'm going to swerve the reply to that until tomorrow, in case I say something I regret. One day, though, I'll tell you a simply amazing story.
For now though, thank you very much, you cannot begin to imagine how much that means to me.
Interestingly, this Post is the 1,000 on this little thread, so I want to add something.
When I sit & play these little poker sessions, it is THE great escape from me. All the woes, ills, worries, all the baggage of life, disappears when I'm playing poker, I'm in my own little world, & I love it there.
We hear plenty of bad things about poker, & some of the people that populate it, but it's a wonderful game, far more so than most of us realise. It's like your girlfriend, or wifey, or Mum or Dad - you ought to tell them how much you care now & then.
TK is absolutely right, Ger is a diamond. I love sitting at a table with him, Not only is he a fantastic player, he's a very nice chap.
I've found your comments about people playing low cards interesting TK. There are of course lots of players [thankfully] who think A2xx is the best hand in the world, they play that hand super strong in the early levels. That's something I don't understand. However, in the later levels and especially if short stacked, A234 A245 A236, all those sort of hands, especially if dual suited, I think are worth going with. Right or wrong, I don't know, I'm no maths genius. If I play hands like that, I'm not doing so to hopefully take half the pot, I'm doing so with the chance of taking the lot. I always assumed everyone thought like that, I had no idea that it was a general opinion that people are playing those type of hands in an attempt to chop pot only.
If you are talking about people who call a pot raise on the turn simply because they have a nut low draw and are drawing to nowt else, then yes I agree 100%. That's lunacy.
And yes, Poker is the beautiful game. Forget that nonsense thing of grown men running around a field kicking a ball! I've yet to see a game of poker end 0-0 with one player feigning injury!
Have fun, good luck and eat your greens.
I,m hoping to start a little challenge of my own off on the low stakes DYM,s over the nxt cpl of days. I want to try and get up to 2 or 3K points for the trilogy freerolls next month and thought this might be a good way of earning some points
I might even venture into the PLO8 games once i find out what the best low qualifying hand is so may see you on the tables at some point.
GL for rest of the month
Sunday 9th February
Played 40
Won 22
Lost 18
Split....
£2.25 - Played 11, won 3, Lost 8
£5.50 - Played 24, won 15 lost 9
£11.00 - Played 5, won 4, Lost 1
PROFIT/LOSS on Day £31.00
PROFIT/LOSS per game £0.77
REWARD POINTS = 203
BANKROLL at close of Play = £1,153.36
REWARD POINTS at close of play = 1,452 (= £14.52)
February to date........
Played 280
Won 171
Lost 109
Win-rate, January, 61.07%
PROFIT/LOSS in January, £269.80
Profit/Loss per game = £0.96
Afternoon all, I'll reply to the Posts by Macacgirl, Alexis & MP33 later today, or tomorrow, I'm a little busy today, but I won't forget them.
I do appreciate the questions, it's good to talk.
Another decent session, ending £31 up. I'd settle for that, every day, but it's just the heater continuing, I think.
I did terribly @ the £2.25's, losing 8 of 11 (!), & so I thought I was having a bad night, but when I totted up afterwards, the £5.50 & especially the £11ers had saved the day, especially the latter, where I won 4 from 5. Should have been 3 from 2, I was in a really big hole in one, but they let me off the hook. Doubling me up in an £11 when I am short is generally not to be advised, as I really strain every sinew in those.
I had hoped for more traffic last night, but the games dried up early, so rather than 1 Table, I drew stumps early.
I felt I was running badly early on, kept failing to hold against draws or worse hands, but maybe it was my imagination, the mind works in strange ways.
Hope there is as bit more trafic tonight. Last Monday was quietish due to Man C v Chelsea, but tonight's offering is slightly less glamorous, QPR v Derby. Need a good session tonight, as I can't play tomorrow, doing the Show with HIM.
Hilarious chatbox moment last night.
I won't name names, but the quip came from someone who is a regular, Posted on this Diary recently, & just takes wins & losses in their stride, as all decent players should.
Anyway......
There is a chap - & I DO, genuinely feel sorry for him, as he struggles to handle bad beats, in fact often they are just bad play, but he feels a need to blame someone, so Sky Poker always get it in the neck.
It's always, EVERY time, "ghjjjjjjjccxgering Sky Poker did me again, thanks Sky Poker, you fiddling drtdjhxcfx's".
I so want to explain that Sky Poker, innovative as they may be, never actually invented poker, or the deck of cards.
When he busts, there is a sort of momentary eerie "silernce" in the chat box, everyone KNOWS what is coming. Sometimes peeps Post "wait for it, here it comes...." . And it always does.
So, he busts last night. He had two draws, & missed both. Hey, there's a thing.
And the chatbox EXPLODED.
He used spaces & asterisks to form the words, to ovecome the swear filter, but it went something like this.....
**cking Sky Poker fiddling b***ards, stuffed me again, they do me every time the ***ing b***ards
There were a few minutes of chatbox silence. I mean, it's embarrassing, isn't it, you don't really know what to say? No way does anyone want to mock the poor chap, so it's awkward to know what to say really. We play this guy every day, & we all chat merrily, he's fine, until he exits. He does give me a bit of grief, because I always raise with Aces. Not sure what I should do, limp, & let everyone crtch up? In PLO8? I don't think so. He reckons it is better to see a flop first, in case it is a bad flop. Now you see why he gets outdrawn more than most.
Anyway....
After around 30 seconds, with the chatbox deathly quiet, suddenly up pops xxxx, with this.
Take a break, have a kitkat mate.
Deffo a new keyboard moment, that.
Now:
Have you sorted my Top of the Posts PM yet?!!!!!!
Multiple exclamation points, because I know you love them.
And - being a writer - you know how much I detest them.