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Were you "just" playing DYM's last night? (Saturday). I sensed you played MUCH better, & that you were really concentrating, & playing good DYM strategy. You "won" every game you were in, from what I saw. Well done you.
The last £11er of the night, in which the last 4 included you & I, was a cracker. I was cruising to the win, plenty of chips, but made a mis-step v you, doubled you up, & then it was nip & tuck all the way, before we both prevailed.
The "mis-step" annoyed me at the time, I was a bit cross with myself for the unforced error, but when I thought about it, it was not really a mistake. I was in the BB with A-10-9-2 Double Suited, you were in the SB. You shoved. I don't much like calling, & ordinarily, that is an easy Pass for me.
But......you had 4 Bigs, & of course, short stacks widen their range, often (& correctly) to "any 4", as mostly the shove does not get called. In fact you had better, A-K-J-10 or somesuch, which was good enough.
Anyway, it all ended OK, & we both got across the line.
Congrats on what looked to me like a good winning night.
5 out of 6 on Friday, then 6 out of 6 last night, was it?
Incred.
My bankroll? Yes, nothing exciting, but little & often, it just slowly (very slowly.....) increases. Short of the most spectacular implosion ever, I'll turn a profit for March, which will be 6 consecutive profitable months, & a profit of around £1,100. I'm very pleased with that, but more so, that we have now got such a thriving PLO8 Commmunity here. To be able to play 40+ PLO8 DYM's every night is quite something, unimaginable 6 months ago.
All good.
well after the chats the last few nights (months even)i thought it was about time i really had a look at how i play the game and try and see where the leaks/flaws in my play are and see if i can improve,
i think too be fair i know most of my flaws myself but just can,t seem too get myself too stop the silly calls and plays i make anyway here goes and please feel free too point out anything i miss.
i know that i am a average(if that) player.but i also know when i want and am fully focused on the game i can play well but far too often i play at the wrong times or just play really silly hands and am not focused enough or get distracted too easily.
as you know been playing hi/lo a wee while with varying degrees of success and gain but i know i,am losing too many games through getting drawn into pots/hands i have no need too be in.
1st im far too willing too get it in with marginal hands when there is no need.
2nd i play too many hands or limp too often
3rd i defend my blinds too much at times instead of letting it go and picking my spot better(as im sure u will remember from earlier tonight)
4th bankroll management..i,am a boom or bust kind of guy
i could go on and on i think but i will leave some for you.
as always thanks for any advice and as you can see also no need for me too pm u as it is here..churchy
EDIT thought i would throw this in as well..should i just bin aa hands they never hold?
I think you've identified the things that you need improvement on in this thread.
You know the game and what you SHOULD do.
Just a little more concentration & patience would do you the world of good.
I think sometimes you play a DYM like its a MTT - just let your BB go , no need to defend if you haven't got a hand to defend with.
Anyway that's my humble, inexperienced, thoughts.
See you at the tables soon
Gl
Mick
whizz thanks for the reply feel priveleged as only your 3 post in 4 years.... only joking seriously thanks for the advice and tips that you and others have given..am i just lucky? or can i play a bit?
as i have said i know that i make some very bad decisions and plays.i.e the 1 v u earlier very bad call but as i said then i felt a bit under the cosh from u but i have no excuse was terrible play by me ..i am trying too tighten up and improve which slowly i feel i am doing(will open my sharkscope in the next month or so when i hit even again:@))
p.s had a wee look at my ss not the best but i have seen far worse and they have turned it around..hopefully by the end of may mine should be showing me in profit.
and if that happens i will be quite happy...anyway gl all and sorry for hijacking your thread tikay
I'll introduce you all to Mr Whizzy tomorrow, he is one of THE greats of Sky Poker.
I'll reply to Churchy's stuff tomorrow, too.
Meanwhile, it is the last day of the month, so I have until Midnight for a last big push for Reward Points, & Bronze Leaderboard Points.
One last big squeeze, & I'll be there. Bit like having a baby, I imagine, I'll be mildly relieved when I'm finished.
Sunday's results?
Ah yeah, been meaning to mention those.
Well, the thing is, things did not go quite as well as I'd hope.
Gory details tomorrow. And believe me, gory is seriously bad.
It is obvious that I am just not good enough and to be fair I have not played well in any form of poker for a while and my brain is scrambled.
Goodbye and good luck
Nick
If it's getting to you too much then have a break and come back when you feel like it again.
Good luck and I hope things turn around.
(Posted by Enut, who is also on a massive downswing - just look at my Sharkscope!)
If it makes you feel better, I ran super hot first part of my session today, 9 straight wins, then.. Whammy. Every great starting hand smashed to bits by any four cards rubbish, played by people in the strangest of ways. I often wonder if some who play the game get up at 4AM so they can drink for 15 hours before they start playing.
Whatever you decide to do, chin up and all that.
Best of luck to you Nick.
also try dropping down too the 60p or £1,15 games and start again from there and then u will have a lot more leeway too see the hands your opponents are getting it in with at a lot less cost and try and build your confidence up again. quite a few of the players who play the £3.30 and £5.50 games also play the lower stakes too. and 1 thing that has been getting drummed into me for a while is if it is a solid hand just get it in of course u will lose a few but overall you should win more than u will lose.
Make notes on players really does help..like the hands they get it all in with.do they slow play,do they barrel any card on the river and so on slowly u will build up a good reading on most players and then it is just a case of picking your spot.
I would agree with macac as well (hic) there is going too be alot of really bad play that gets rewarded but thats how it goes if we all played the game the way it should it would be very boring.
Anyway i hope you can turn things around and start enjoying the game again..all the best.. churchy
Had to search for this page!
How did March finish for you?
Are you staying with the PLO8 DYM's?
Oh and Mother was back last night and reckons you were too scared to come and play her ! :-)
Ha!
Will do a full update, a March Report, + a 6 month Report, & what I plan to do next, either tonight, or tomorrow morning.
I will also reply at length to Pompeynic. We can sort that, no prob. I have a cunning plan......
(How typical of Team PLO8 that everyone was so supportive & kind, eh?).
I've been a bit waylaid with other stuff this week, & have not been playing poker in the evenings. I'm going offline today, too, now, as I have some personal (non-Sky Poker) stuff to sort today. I'm going up to London. On a train. To see someone about a dog. Sort of.
PS - Tell the PLO8 Crew I miss them all, especially the fun & bantering. (Except MOTHER, obv).
Morning Mother, & thank the Lord for a cheerful person.
It's been a bit awkward for me this week, what with this & that, so not played all week. I don't find it easy to keep good focus on 6 or 8 Tables & try to field forum questions at the same time. Some days I can barely bring myself to even open the Community, I play poker, & engage with others on Forums to enjoy our great game, but the chunter levels seem to just get worse & worse. I have quite a stressy job, as many of us do, & poker is my escape, where I come to relax, & unwind. I guess we are all different, & each to their own. I probably enjoy playing poker more than anyone, but it's an exercise in fun for me, & I don't take it too seriously, in truth.
Anyway, I'd best update my Challenge/results, reply to Pompeynic, & then discuss where I go from here.
Best regards to FATHER, I sometimes think life is a bit uphill, but crikey, I feel for him, what with you & THE DAUGHTER round his feet. He deserves a medal.
PS - You are right, I did miss you a bit, in much the same way as I'd miss piles.
xx
Sunday 30th March
Played 47
Won 17
Lost 30
Split....
£3.30 - Played 28, Won 11, Lost 18
£5.50 - Played 12, won 4 lost 8
£11.00 - Played 7, won 1, Lost 6
PROFIT/LOSS on Day £97.40
PROFIT/LOSS per game £2.07
REWARD POINTS = 214
BANKROLL at close of Play = £1,205.19
REWARD POINTS at close of play = 3,640 (= £54.60)
March to date........
Played 815
Won 456
Lost 359
Win-rate, January, 55.95%
PROFIT/LOSS in March, £56.43
Profit/Loss per game February = £0.07
Yikes!
How do these things happen?
In case you missed the headline numbers, I LOST at each of the three buy-in levels......
£3.30 - Played 28, Won 11, Lost 18
£5.50 - Played 12, won 4 lost 8
£11.00 - Played 7, won 1, Lost 6
Included in that was a run of 15 (FIFTEEN) consecutive losing games. This, in a format where 50% of 6 runners get paid.
How is that even possible, lol? FIFTEEN consecutive losing games.
I'm very self-critical but I was not conscious of playing badly - perhaps a little too heavy on the aggro-pedal - but in a relatively low-variance game, it's not really likely that I could play my A-Game & lose so many games. So I guess I was making a good few mistakes.
If anyone had bet me I could lose 15 straight PLO8 DYM's, I'd have bitten their hand off, it's just not possible.
Monday 31st March
Played 21
Won 13
Lost 8
Split....
£3.30 - Played 8, Won 6, Lost 2
£5.50 - Played 9, won 5 lost 4
£11.00 - Played 4, won 2, Lost 2
PROFIT/LOSS on Day £6.10
PROFIT/LOSS per game £0.29
REWARD POINTS = 109
BANKROLL at close of Play = £1,211.29
REWARD POINTS at close of play = 3,754 (= £56.31)
March to date........
Played 836
Won 469
Lost 367
Win-rate, March, 56.10%
PROFIT/LOSS in March, £62.53
Profit/Loss per game March = £0.08
A much better day, only £6 profit, but won 13 from 21, which is about par for me, I'd say.
Shame to end the month on a bit of a bad few days, but over time, it all evens out.
So, that's 6 months, & I think it's time to end this particular challenge, & move on to a new challenge.
I'm going to summarise everything (in approx terms) before putting it to bed. I'm therefore going to add in March's Reward Points, & also, I was very pleasantly surprised to get a £25 Bonus from the Bronze Leaderboard thing, so I'll include that as well. I know its not fashionable to say these things nowadays, but I thought the Gold/Silver/Bronze Leaderboards were really a first class idea, &, to my mind, a £25 Bonus just for playing the game I love is just wonderful.
So.....
Starting Bankroll = £200
Closing Bankroll = £1,292.60
Profit = £1,092.60.
I'm chuffed to bits with that, & I'll probably put it towards playing a WSOP PLOL8 Event if I can get to Vegas this year. I've played 3 so far, & cashed in 2, so a third cash, variance being what it is, is unlikely, but, you know, it's all about living that dream. I had a nice cash in the UKPC Omaha, too, so I've got me a bit of a bankroll to do Vegas with, all being well.
In total (approx), I think I played around 3,300 PLO8 DYM's games in the 6 months, so I made a profit of around £0.30 per DYM, with an average buy-in of about £5. Not exactly crushing, or setting the poker world on fire, but it pleased me immensely, especially given my age. I'm not competitive at NLH these days, which batters the self-esteem a bit, so this went down a treat.
Teaching myself to 8 table was satisfying, too. And if I can do it, anyone can.
Remarkably, of the £1,092 profit, I reckon around £300 came from Reward Points & sundry Promo Bonuses, so they added about 25%. Quite significant, really.
So that's the money side.
Also.....
I've made SO many friends amongst the PLO8 Community, who, to my mind, are the friendliest, & most sporting bunch I've ever met in poker.
I'd like to namecheck some of them, but I'll forget a few, & get myself in trouble, so I'd better not do that.
There are some grerat Poker "Ambassadors" amongst them though, which is a grand thing to see when so many folks seem to take recreational poker a bit too serious.
We've revved up the PLO8 liquidity & traffic a treat, too, & I'm pleased I played a part in that. There can't be too many Sites that have that amount of PLO8 SNG traffic these days.
All good, really.
I keep seeing reference to DYM's being riddled with collusion & jiggery-pokery, & this week has not helped in that regard, of course.
But in those 3,000+ games I played, I saw no evidence of it at all. And believe me, I'd recognize it if it happened, I'm not exactly wet behind the ears as to the poker world, & I've been exposed elsewhere to all the various dodges that some folks get up to.
From time to time, I'd see someone play a hand SO badly, that it could look like collusion, but generally, if you scratch beneath the surface, instead of hooting & hollering on the Forum without proper evidence, you can find a reason for "odd" plays.
One chap limped from the SB, & then folded when the BB shoved his last HALF a Big Blind in. Collusion? Nope. He was 12 Tabling, & simply not paying attention. It happens, I've done it, we've all done it. We don't have to assume everyone is dishonest, I much prefer to start from the other end.
I did spot one multi-accounter though, as he repeatedly gave himself away by his chat, & everyone could see the score. I reported it, & he was never seen again.
And that was in a 3,000 game sample, so I don't think we need worry too much.