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Can an old dog learn new tricks?

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  • edited August 2014
    In Response to Re: Can an old dog learn new tricks?:
    In Response to Re: Can an old dog learn new tricks? : In games maybe so TK but was still a loss on the £5.50s in monetary  terms!! Those £5.50 games been giving you grief the past few days. Congrats on the winning session, stats look a bit better than 1p a game now
    Posted by hagisboy
    Yes, I seem to be running bad or playing bad in the £5.50's, & are losing them by the shedload. Winning the Game Count in the £5.50's felt like a win. ;) 

    I did it again last night - played 9 @ £5.50, & lost 6 of them!
  • edited August 2014
    In Response to Re: Can an old dog learn new tricks?:
    Not that I'll be able to rail you until monday, but what sort of times are you about on the tables Tikay?
    Posted by GaryLaud
    Hi Gary.

    As previously noted, most nights I start at around 5pm with one or two tables, then as more traffic arrives, I go up to 6 or 7 tables.  

    Not much fun railing me though, I pass most stuff early doors, & rarely play and hands until we get 4 handed. That's when the aggro pedal comes into play.

    Always happy to chat, but once I get 4 tables or more, you'll need to be patient, as I struggle a bit to chat when I have 3 or 4 Tables on the go.
     
  • edited August 2014
    In Response to Re: Can an old dog learn new tricks?:
    Have decided to use my £10 free bet from the premiership promo on the following accumulator:- Bury,Cambridge,Plymouth,Portsmouth and Wimbledon all to win today at 50-1 Fingers crossed Nick
    Posted by pompeynic
    Do you get anything for 3 out of 5?

    Boo!
  • edited August 2014

    30th August Daily Numbery things



    Played 26

    Won 14

    Lost 15


    £3.30, P 17, W 11, L 6

    £5.50, P 9, W 3 L 6

    £11, P 0, W 0, L 0

    Opening Balance - £1,374.83

    Closing Balance = £1,365.23

    Profit/Loss on Night - £9.60

    Profit/Loss on Month = £10.00

    REWARD POINTS on night = 96

    REWARD POINTS IN MONTH = 1,687 (= £16.87)

    GAMES PLAYED IN MONTH = 447

    GAMES WON IN MONTH = 248

    AUGUST WIN % = 55.48%

    August Profit/Loss per game = £0.02
  • edited August 2014


    Very quiet night last night, traffic seemed very sparse, & I gave up early, as I prefer to have 5 or 6 Tables going. No action at all @ £11, and I somehow kept losing all the fiver jobbies. 

    The last hand of the night was a purler, when I re-potted an aggro opener with good aces, & he snapped me with the old 3-3-6-7, & had me all wrapped up on the flop, another fiver down the swanee, lol. There is a momentary "what on EARTH?" sort of thought when you first see a play like that, but that's insta-followed by the realisation that we want these plays all day & night. "

    Anyway, lost just shy of £10, which is not exactly a get rick quick scheme. 

    So, last day of the month, I have a paltry £10 of profit (plus Reward Points), & I could well be facing my first ever monthly loss since I started this challenge thing if I have a bad 'un tonight.

    Ooh, the tension, it's like the closing line in The Archers.

    But Phil, we are out of salt & onion crisps, what shall we do?

    Dum de dum de dum de dum, dum de dum de dum dum.....  
       
  • edited August 2014

    Now, I must sadly bring a serious matter to your attention.
     
    As you must realise by now, I hold MOTHER in high regard, right up there with the likes of CTBN.

    She has a reputation for having a very solid opening range, & I always - ALWAYS - respect her raises.

    Last night, however, all was revealed, when MOTHER shoved & got looked up. Villain had A-2-K-K, & we KNOW he must be in trouble, MOTHER's range - sorry, perceived range - here is A-A-2-3 MINIMUM.

    Imagine the hurt I felt, the betrayal of respect, when she turned over.....

    9-5-4-2


  • edited August 2014
  • edited August 2014
    In Response to Re: Can an old dog learn new tricks?:
    Now, I must sadly bring a serious matter to your attention.   As you must realise by now, I hold MOTHER in high regard, right up there with the likes of CTBN. She has a reputation for having a very solid opening range, & I always - ALWAYS - respect her raises. Last night, however, all was revealed, when MOTHER shoved & got looked up. Villain had A-2-K-K, & we KNOW he must be in trouble, MOTHER's range - sorry, perceived range - here is A-A-2-3 MINIMUM. Imagine the hurt I felt, the betrayal of respect, when she turned over..... 9-5-4-2
    Posted by Tikay10
    I do believe that the old 9-5-4-2 play is right out of chapter five of the Tikay book I am going to steal the blinds please fold.
    I seem to fold to you quite a bit Tony are you saying I should look you up more often?
    Nick
  • edited August 2014
    In Response to Re: Can an old dog learn new tricks?:
    Now, I must sadly bring a serious matter to your attention.   As you must realise by now, I hold MOTHER in high regard, right up there with the likes of CTBN. She has a reputation for having a very solid opening range, & I always - ALWAYS - respect her raises. Last night, however, all was revealed, when MOTHER shoved & got looked up. Villain had A-2-K-K, & we KNOW he must be in trouble, MOTHER's range - sorry, perceived range - here is A-A-2-3 MINIMUM. Imagine the hurt I felt, the betrayal of respect, when she turned over..... 9-5-4-2
    Posted by Tikay10
    ...but it was so much fun :):):)
  • edited August 2014
    In Response to Re: Can an old dog learn new tricks?:
    Now, I must sadly bring a serious matter to your attention.   As you must realise by now, I hold MOTHER in high regard, right up there with the likes of CTBN. She has a reputation for having a very solid opening range, & I always - ALWAYS - respect her raises. Last night, however, all was revealed, when MOTHER shoved & got looked up. Villain had A-2-K-K, & we KNOW he must be in trouble, MOTHER's range - sorry, perceived range - here is A-A-2-3 MINIMUM. Imagine the hurt I felt, the betrayal of respect, when she turned over..... 9-5-4-2
    Posted by Tikay10

    AND??............  I'm guessing A,3 & 5? El scoopio?

  • edited August 2014
    Horrible night. I do not know why but I started badly throwing chips around like a madman,got spanked good and proper.
    Settled down,concentrated better and won a couple only to then lose a the rest of the games by either losing flips or making plays against aces (Tikay amongst the beneficiaries obviously) and quit playing after a £26 loss. OUCHIE
    Hard not to feel disappointed but will come back tomorrow determined to do better.
    Nick
  • edited September 2014
    now now Teeks
    2nd ain't so bad

  • edited September 2014
    OMG Vespa man
    vul
    best of luck
  • edited September 2014
    Teeks
    a break even month for el maestro!
    Never in a month of Sundays would I have forecast that
    I can only assume mother was at it
    no, not A, but V.
    Incredible
  • edited September 2014

    Evening.

    Been a bit wojamicallit today, so will update the thread, reply to the questions & comments, & reveal the final August numbers tomorrow.

    But Phil, we are out of salt & onion crisps, what shall we do?

    Dum de dum de dum de dum, dum de dum de dum dum.....
  • edited September 2014

    Meanwhile, getting slightly ahead of myself, but this months target will be fairly modest - 3,000 Reward Points, & try again to get the Bankroll over the £1,400 line, where I seem to have ben becalmed for several months now.
     
    So if I raise, I've got it, so pass, right? That includes Twiglet & Little Miss 9-5-4-2.

    Have a good evening, see you on the tables shortly. Just gonna make a nice cuppa first.
     


     
     
  • edited September 2014
    In Response to Re: Can an old dog learn new tricks?:
    But Phil, we are out of salt & onion crisps, what shall we do? Dum de dum de dum de dum, dum de dum de dum dum.....
    Posted by Tikay10

    Sorry?  I know you have not frequented public houses for over 75 years but come on....

    You could have...
    Salt & Vinegar (or salt n lineker as they are now called!) or
    Cheese & Onion.

    Or do they actually sell these down the east end with them cockles & mussels??

    On another note, are you going to consider PLO games this month or stick to PLO8?
  • edited September 2014
    In Response to Re: Can an old dog learn new tricks?:
    [QUOTE]Horrible night. I do not know why but I started badly throwing chips around like a madman,got spanked good and proper. Settled down,concentrated better and won a couple only to then lose a the rest of the games by either losing flips or making plays against aces (Tikay amongst the beneficiaries obviously) and quit playing after a £26 loss. OUCHIE Hard not to feel disappointed but will come back tomorrow determined to do better. Nick
    Posted by pompeynic


    (This refers to the night before last).

    Same here Nick, I did my conkers, & some of it was just bad play by me, I got a bit too aggro with my "flop bets" after raising pre, & could not seem to slow down.

    The only guy I could win against seemed to be.....you! I just kept being dealt, or hitting, great hands against you, & the old aggro pedal was dialled to the max.

    Anyway, I was watching you last night, & I got the impression you had a much better night. (Me too, phew).

    How many do you play per session? I was quite surprised to see you play so many, you've upped your volume, right?

    I'm not blowing smoke up any of your orifices, but I genuinely think you are on of the most improved players in PLO8 DYM's. Long may it last.

    How is your health now? I know you've been a little unwell.
      
  • edited September 2014
    In Response to Re: Can an old dog learn new tricks?:
    Teeks a break even month for el maestro! Never in a month of Sundays would I have forecast that I can only assume mother was at it no, not A, but V. Incredible
    Posted by GELDY
    El maestro? El Donkeyo more like.

    Anyway, wait for the numbers. I crushed. Ish.

    Good to see you back amongst us. You been to China-town again?

    How do you cope with the language over there? Does everyone speak English? 
  • edited September 2014
    In Response to Re: Can an old dog learn new tricks?:
    In Response to Re: Can an old dog learn new tricks? : Sorry?  I know you have not frequented public houses for over 75 years but come on.... You could have... Salt & Vinegar (or salt n lineker as they are now called!) or Cheese & Onion. Or do they actually sell these down the east end with them cockles & mussels?? On another note, are you going to consider PLO games this month or stick to PLO8?
    Posted by MAXALLY

    You'll have to listen to The Archers to understand that one Alan. Gripping stuff.......

    Switch to PLO this month?

    I'm deffo keen to give it a try, as I keep saying. If I'd had a good month at PLO8, I may well have said "right, job done, next case", but I did not.

    Honestly, everything is so much fun, but there are just not enough hours in the day to do all the things I want.

    But yes, it remains under consideration, I am currently mid-dither. I'm a world-class ditherer.
     
    PS - Nice result for Stoke at the weekend, bet Sparky enjoyed that.
  • edited September 2014

    31st August Daily Numbery things


    Played 33

    Won 14

    Lost 19


    £3.30, P 19, W 9, L 10

    £5.50, P 13, W 4 L 9

    £11, P 1, W 1, L 0

    Opening Balance - £1,365.23

    Closing Balance = £1,340.03 (PLUS £18.22 August Reward Points)

    Profit/Loss on Night - £25.20

    Profit/Loss on Month = £3.20

    REWARD POINTS on night = 132

    REWARD POINTS IN MONTH = 1,822 (= £18.22)

    GAMES PLAYED IN MONTH = 480

    GAMES WON IN MONTH = 262

    AUGUST WIN % = 54.58%

    August Profit/Loss per game = £0.006666
  • edited September 2014

    Note - my daily numbers always reprsent the closing balance in my account.

    However, as per last month, I have now ADDED my August Reward Points money to the balance, even though I have yet to receive it.

    Daily numbers until it is received will assume the money is already there.
  • edited September 2014
    Hi Tikay
    Yesterday was a little better :-
    £2.25  W1 L0
    £3.30  W7 L4
    £5.50  W3 L3
    Profit on night £4.45  rewards points 66
    From small acorns I suppose....... I played some of these earlier in the day, as I have decided to  play a few more and use the time off work to try and get to 3000 points this month.
     I thank you for the very nice comments, I think I have got better but am still prone to the odd "mad moment".
    Sometimes I think too much and give people credit for hands and sometimes I do not think enough get caught up in the moment and just push buttons..... can prove costly that.
    I also wonder if I have become predictable and therefore easier to play against?
    I must also remember VARIANCE. I win just as many flips as I lose, but, as has been said before, we tend to only remember the painfull ones.
    Anyway I may not be around so much tonight, as I have my free seat in the turbo to play(thanks Sky)
    I am off to see the specialist today to get results but I feel so much better so fingers crossed
    Nick
  • edited September 2014

    Well however you look at them, with or without Reward Points money, thats a woeful set of numbers. If I made or lost £20 in the month, its all the same - a disappointment.
     
    I'm not exactly sure WHY I had such a poor month, either. It's easy to hide behind our old friend variance, but I played the fat end of 500 "50-50" DYM's, and, techniocally, I think I know how the game works. Most perplexing.

    If I had to find something I regret, its lack of concentration, &, to a degree, chatting too much, which is sort of chicken & egg. 

    I do find I can just about cope with 6 Tables, but once I start chatting, with 6 or 7 tables bunging & bonging, & that really awkward chat-box, I sort of get behind in monitoring all the tables. My "method" is to try & make ALL my decisions (usually Pass, lol) the very second I receive my cards, on every table, but once I start chatting, sudden;y I am all behind & have to sort of rush around the tables.
     
    Not quite sure what to do, because chatting with my pals is half the fun.
     
    I'm also becoming convinced that my mental dexterity is waning. I suppose it is bound to at my age, but I'm acutely sensitive to that sort of thing, age-related mental impairment scares the hell out of me.
     
    For context...

    I started with £200, &, steadily, with a nice smooth graph, went up to £1,400. Never had a losing month, not even close. (Until now). But I've been stuck £50 either side of £1,400 for about 4 months now, making no progress in either direction really. And I can't explain why, those concentration issues apart.

    Maybe the game has got harder, maybe people are playing it much better now?

    I played 3 games last night where one player (different player in each) flat called EVERY hand pre-flop, called EVERY bet, never folded once, & never ONCE Raised. And they won in each case, & I lost in each case. I can't be convinced that calling & hoping is profitable, but in the short term, I suppose, it can be.
     
    Anyway, thats that. On a brighter note, I played around 12 nights in August, had an absolute ball, & it cost me nothing, so about 40 hours of fun for free. So not so bad really.

    I've decided to make a few tweaks to my game, especially as to my levels of aggro on the c-bet, but mainly, the plan is to try & concentrate harder. 

    Bit like my school reports.

    Young Tony has the ability, but needs to apply himself better.          
     
  • edited September 2014
    In Response to Re: Can an old dog learn new tricks?:
    Hi Tikay Yesterday was a little better :- £2.25  W1 L0 £3.30  W7 L4 £5.50  W3 L3 Profit on night £4.45  rewards points 66 From small acorns I suppose....... I played some of these earlier in the day, as I have decided to  play a few more and use the time off work to try and get to 3000 points this month.  I thank you for the very nice comments, I think I have got better but am still prone to the odd "mad moment". Sometimes I think too much and give people credit for hands and sometimes I do not think enough get caught up in the moment and just push buttons..... can prove costly that. I also wonder if I have become predictable and therefore easier to play against? I must also remember VARIANCE. I win just as many flips as I lose, but, as has been said before, we tend to only remember the painfull ones. Anyway I may not be around so much tonight, as I have my free seat in the turbo to play(thanks Sky) I am off to see the specialist today to get results but I feel so much better so fingers crossed Nick
    Posted by pompeynic
    3,000 points in September? That's my target, too. Good luck.

    More importantly, hope the Specialist at the Hossie brings good news. 

    I'm amazingly lucky with my health. I don't exactly look after myself, I don't eat veg or salad (never have), I drink too much coffee, smoke, & seem to get involved in lots of stressful situations. And yet, in a working life that has spanned 51 years now, I've only ever had one day off work sick in my entire life, & that was 30 years ago. Guess I have run good. So far.     
  • edited September 2014

    Before I start my September numbers from last night......

    Most impressive newcomer to the PLO8 DYM's in August has been JACEON. VERY aggro indeed, good bloke who takes his beats well, & a right handful.

    His main weapon is sheer aggression, button-steals galore, but he's tough to play. I don't do "table selection", I just reg for evety £3, £5 & £11 the moment it spawns, but I actually like to have him on my table, as he brings a fresh dynamic. Took me a while to suss him out, but I've developed a plan to (try to) cope with him now, & it worked OK last night.

    Always good to see new players to these.

    We had Hotwheals last night too. Difficult customer, him, very good.

    We've also had EvilPingu, Craigsc1, & a few other of the boys from NLH. All good.  
      
  • edited September 2014


    And finally, before we start September, a nasty bit of bad blood in the Chat box last night, very unusual in PLO8.
     
    4 of us left, I have about 5 bigs.

    HUGE chippe, calls EVERYTHING, & 2 medium stacks. It's all about busting me.
     
    Anyway, I shoved, & Mr Station, the monsta stack, calls, obv. 

    Tuney was sat behind him, in the BB, with a medium stack, he's locked up, & passing to the near inevitable win.
     
    It was very little for him to also call, but he folded, & got some nasty comments, "passing to your mate I see". He was also urged to call even before the action reached him, "YOU MUST CALL".  That's bang out of order, but anyway.....

    Thing was, it  WAS a "maths call" for Tuney, but - imo - it was NOT a DYM Bubble call.  Not only could he sensibly fold, but the threat of TREBLING me up was very real - I'd go 2nd in chips with a 3-xUp. Don't want to sound conceited, but trebling me up on the Bubble is rarely wise.
     
    Anyway, he stood accused of "colluding with his friend". Marv. 

    I've played over 5,000 of these things, the vast majority against people I would call "friends" in the loosest sense, & I'm pretty sure every single one would say nobody colludes in these things, it'd stick out a mile if they did.

    Anyway, Tuney is a decent human being, just plays for fun, & I'm sure he must have been pretty upset by it all.

    Sorry 'bout that Tuney. Doubt he's ever been accused of cheating before, poor lad.  
     
  • edited September 2014

    SEPTEMBER Scores on the Doors.

    Played 34

    Won 21

    Lost 13


    £3.30, P 19, W 11, L 8

    £5.50, P 11, W 7 L 4

    £11, P 4, W 3, L 1

    Opening Balance - £1,358.25

    Closing Balance = £1,387.05 (INCLUDES £18.22 August Reward Points not yet received)

    Profit/Loss on Night - £28.80

    Profit/Loss on Month = £28.20

    REWARD POINTS on night = 152

    REWARD POINTS IN MONTH = 152 (= £1.52)

    GAMES PLAYED IN MONTH = 34

    GAMES WON IN MONTH = 21

    AUGUST WIN % = 61.76%

    August Profit/Loss per game = £0.85
  • edited September 2014

    Nothing to add M'Lord.

    Played OK, ran neutral, but really really concentrated. Still made a few daft unforced errors, but I'll take those numbers.
     
    LOT of traffic last night, I wanted to try & get 150 Reward Points, & I was done & dusted well before 11pm. 4 ran @ £11, too.

    Excellent.

    No play for me tonight, am working, see you guys tomorrow though. I'm here all week, as the saying goes.....
  • edited September 2014


    AWAY players.

    I meant to mention this a few days ago, but it's been a bit of an awkward few days.

    3 little "AWAY" tales. 

    Twiglet was "AWAY" in one, (busy eating, probably) but was playing another table, No less than FOUR of us went to her other table to give here a nudge that she was "AWAY" on another table. That's exactly the spirit I love to see in poker.
     
    But AWAY players can & do present us with some weird dilemmas.
     
    More follows...... 

     
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