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  • edited May 2014
    116 -39.29 1hr 518.36
    117 +13.47 2hr 531.83

    Returned from my holiday itching for a game of poker. I crashed out of main and mini early and played the MC tables. After blowing a stack early with AK I climbed back into profit and enjoyed the games while watching the show online. It was nice to get some encouragement from Rich and Ross, although not so great to see myself bluffed off of aces. In the following half hour I made a few hero calls with 2nd pair and picked up medium pots so it was obvious that a few of the other regs were watching too.

    The show closed with a half-decent fold I made vs rivered trips for my opponent but I made a few big folds throughout the session and its going to be a theme of my poker this month. Of course I will adjust if I think im being exploited but I need to get into the habit of replaying previous streets and laying down my hand if necessary.
  • edited May 2014
    In Response to Re: The Build A Bankroll Thread:
    116 -39.29 1hr 518.36 117 +13.47 2hr 531.83 Returned from my holiday itching for a game of poker. I crashed out of main and mini early and played the MC tables. After blowing a stack early with AK I climbed back into profit and enjoyed the games while watching the show online. It was nice to get some encouragement from Rich and Ross, although not so great to see myself bluffed off of aces. In the following half hour I made a few hero calls with 2nd pair and picked up medium pots so it was obvious that a few of the other regs were watching too. The show closed with a half-decent fold I made vs rivered trips for my opponent but I made a few big folds throughout the session and its going to be a theme of my poker this month. Of course I will adjust if I think im being exploited but I need to get into the habit of replaying previous streets and laying down my hand if necessary.
    Posted by jimb0d1

    Hi Jim,

    Thanks for getting involved in the show last night. That fold with the Aces was understandable, although obv on tv looked tight!

    Glad it served to win you a few pots though through advertising!

    Hope we can be of assistance in the future!
  • edited May 2014
    I'm hoping to get back on the tables tonight for another session.

    I know I should probably give the cash and DYMs a go, and I probably will at some point this evening. But that Wednesday night rebuy main looks too damn attractive!


  • edited May 2014
    Main and mini please. You always cash and its an awesome rail ;)
  • edited May 2014
    In Response to Re: The Build A Bankroll Thread:
    Main and mini please. You always cash and its an awesome rail ;)
    Posted by Matt237

    I'm in! :-)
  • edited May 2014
    And here's the results...

    MAIN EVENT 63/291

    MINI EVENT 18/212

    RicOrford has finished 18th and wins £28.88, and was awarded 10 Poker Points.

    So, a reasonably deep run in the main and a cash in the mini! 

    Think with one add-on in each event, I ended losing a teeny weeny amount, but got 5 hours entertainment out of it.

    All in all, not bad. :-)
  • edited May 2014
    Well im just back from my second ever live poker session at a casino (actually, 2 casinos).

    Played 2 tournaments each with £23.50 total buy-in at the Genting in Newcastle. In the first tournament I made a few errors...mucked my cards and went to collect a medium pot with KK on JQx when there was still a player to act.... Oops!

    The standard was fairly questionable with many loose calls and I didnt really pick up another decent hand until the midstages when I 3b an utg limper with aq, cbet big flop and turn on AQxT only to find opponent had turned the nuts with KJ. There wasnt much table chatter and I sat quietly myself and tried to focus on the action, content to play my own game. I must confess to getting butterflies and mild shakes even in small pots playing live and I throuroughly enjoyed myself, despite not reaching the latter stages.

    I then played an ill-advised shortstacking cash session at Aspers. I intended to rail a friend in a £1/£1 game but the game would not start until 5 handed so to make up the numbers I bought in with just £50. The blinds were killing my stack but I managed to get all in pre with AK vs AT in a 46bb pot, however two tens on the flop meant that I lost my £50 in just under an hour.

    At this table, there were 3 or 4 regular players sat during my session who chatted to each other on first name terms though barely spoke a word to my friend and I. Indeed, even the dealers were fairly mute and I didnt feel very welcome at all, although I gather the casino is far livelier in the evening.

    Note to self: no more unwise cashgame buyins, even if helping out a friend. My pal also bust his stack so I grabbed a few complimentary poker magazines and we headed back to Genting for an 8pm 'double chance' tournament.

    I had a mixed table and decided to take my 'double' chips upfront and started with 8k at 25/50, hoping to build a stack early on. Once again, I failed to pick up any playable hole cards and my stack dwindled until half the field had bust and I had around 12bb. A few hours sat without playing a hand can drive some people crazy but I kept myself busy studying the other players and stealing small pots here and there. The average at this stage was only around 20bb so I hung around and eventually managed to pick up a few decent pots heading towards the final table bubble.

    The table was very talkative with a mix of ages and poker styles however I did have a few slightly uncomfortable momemts at the table, chiefly whenever the dealer moved/bust. No one at the table wanted to deal and I cannot even square up a deck never mind shuffle and deal at a reasonable speed so I was very reluctant to step up. As it turned out I only had to deal one hand when we agreed to all deal a hand in turn. I was truly atrocious and the hand must have taken 10 minutes to play out despite ending on the flop. I think my table mates were more accepting of my live poker inexperience after that and helped me out a bit more afterwards with general prompts - blinds, button movements etc. The really good news was that I was then moved to the final table which a staff member would deal.

    During the break I was looking at the chipstacks. On my left was a large stack, nursed by a young lad with headphones named Ryan. One of my previous tablemates informed me that Ryan was the best player at the table and very aggressive.....mine was not exactly the best seat at the table then! There were at least 5 other regulars at the table who all knew each other well. Despite this I decided to get on the front foot and after 2 or 3 orbits I was sat with a 38bb stack.

    Unfortunately from there I played a little loose passive with speculative hands and when the blinds went up and I couldnt hit a flop at all until I was forced to shove kq utg with 14BB.... I was called by AT and went out in 7th place for £30. I supplemented this with a few more complimentary poker magazines. When I left, the feared Ryan had just taken a decent pot to become chipleader and seemed very comfortable.... I wonder if he plays on sky? The table was very relaxed and everyone was happy to chat and this was a cool way to round off the days poker.

    I wont be in any rush to play live cash until my bankroll grows but I will definately play a few more live tournaments here and there......although I think ill look for fully dealer-dealt tournaments and save a bit of awkwardness. I have had mucky looks and grumbles on both of my live poker outings so far after I have asked if anyone else would volunteer to deal the cards and do everyone a favour. Is it really so much to ask?

    After 11 hours in the casino I had spent £70 all told (would only have been £27 if my AK held up). Not bad for a full days entertainment, food, drinks and £10 worth of bathtime reading    :)









  • edited May 2014
    Good read that, n1
  • edited May 2014
    In Response to Re: The Build A Bankroll Thread:
    Well im just back from my second ever live poker session at a casino (actually, 2 casinos). Played 2 tournaments each with £23.50 total buy-in at the Genting in Newcastle. In the first tournament I made a few errors...mucked my cards and went to collect a medium pot with KK on JQx when there was still a player to act.... Oops! The standard was fairly questionable with many loose calls and I didnt really pick up another decent hand until the midstages when I 3b an utg limper with aq, cbet big flop and turn on AQxT only to find opponent had turned the nuts with KJ. There wasnt much table chatter and I sat quietly myself and tried to focus on the action, content to play my own game. I must confess to getting butterflies and mild shakes even in small pots playing live and I throuroughly enjoyed myself, despite not reaching the latter stages. I then played an ill-advised shortstacking cash session at Aspers. I intended to rail a friend in a £1/£1 game but the game would not start until 5 handed so to make up the numbers I bought in with just £50. The blinds were killing my stack but I managed to get all in pre with AK vs AT in a 46bb pot, however two tens on the flop meant that I lost my £50 in just under an hour. At this table, there were 3 or 4 regular players sat during my session who chatted to each other on first name terms though barely spoke a word to my friend and I. Indeed, even the dealers were fairly mute and I didnt feel very welcome at all, although I gather the casino is far livelier in the evening. Note to self: no more unwise cashgame buyins, even if helping out a friend. My pal also bust his stack so I grabbed a few complimentary poker magazines and we headed back to Genting for an 8pm 'double chance' tournament. I had a mixed table and decided to take my 'double' chips upfront and started with 8k at 25/50, hoping to build a stack early on. Once again, I failed to pick up any playable hole cards and my stack dwindled until half the field had bust and I had around 12bb. A few hours sat without playing a hand can drive some people crazy but I kept myself busy studying the other players and stealing small pots here and there. The average at this stage was only around 20bb so I hung around and eventually managed to pick up a few decent pots heading towards the final table bubble. The table was very talkative with a mix of ages and poker styles however I did have a few slightly uncomfortable momemts at the table, chiefly whenever the dealer moved/bust. No one at the table wanted to deal and I cannot even square up a deck never mind shuffle and deal at a reasonable speed so I was very reluctant to step up. As it turned out I only had to deal one hand when we agreed to all deal a hand in turn. I was truly atrocious and the hand must have taken 10 minutes to play out despite ending on the flop. I think my table mates were more accepting of my live poker inexperience after that and helped me out a bit more afterwards with general prompts - blinds, button movements etc. The really good news was that I was then moved to the final table which a staff member would deal. During the break I was looking at the chipstacks. On my left was a large stack, nursed by a young lad with headphones named Ryan. One of my previous tablemates informed me that Ryan was the best player at the table and very aggressive.....mine was not exactly the best seat at the table then! There were at least 5 other regulars at the table who all knew each other well. Despite this I decided to get on the front foot and after 2 or 3 orbits I was sat with a 38bb stack. Unfortunately from there I played a little loose passive with speculative hands and when the blinds went up and I couldnt hit a flop at all until I was forced to shove kq utg with 14BB.... I was called by AT and went out in 7th place for £30. I supplemented this with a few more complimentary poker magazines. When I left, the feared Ryan had just taken a decent pot to become chipleader and seemed very comfortable.... I wonder if he plays on sky? The table was very relaxed and everyone was happy to chat and this was a cool way to round off the days poker. I wont be in any rush to play live cash until my bankroll grows but I will definately play a few more live tournaments here and there......although I think ill look for fully dealer-dealt tournaments and save a bit of awkwardness. I have had mucky looks and grumbles on both of my live poker outings so far after I have asked if anyone else would volunteer to deal the cards and do everyone a favour. Is it really so much to ask? After 11 hours in the casino I had spent £70 all told (would only have been £27 if my AK held up). Not bad for a full days entertainment, food, drinks and £10 worth of bathtime reading    :)
    Posted by jimb0d1
    been reading a lot of your stuff on this thread maybe start your own diary  as it has been a good read so far.
  • edited May 2014
    Good post Jim.

    Glad to see you enjoyed on the whole your live experience, although I know what you mean about some people being unwelcoming and generally unsympathetic to newbies.

    I'm really happy you're posting away on here- I feel like it's just as much your thread as anyone's now, but if you wish to start your own thread I can understand that.

    Keep it all going. I feel like there are a lot of people lurking on the thread and reading your exploits and appreciating you taking the time to write about them.
  • edited May 2014
    I'm still in the top 10 on best of the best. Living the dream tables been up 5 days and i've been on it all 5 :-)
  • edited May 2014
    Ill be keeping my posts on this thread while I am still plugging away at the cash. If after 6 months I get sick then ill go back to mtts/sngs and perhaps start a new thread.

    Session 118 -57.35  Br: 474.38

    Nightmare day. Lost all in preflop with KK vs A5s and also a full stack when all in on the turn with set over set. Cash poker is so frustrating at times......in this session I was trying to stay very aggressive and then ran into spots like this. Im happy that my decisions were right in these big hands, but still leaked a lot of small/medium pots when I tried to semibluff vs stations.
  • edited May 2014
    In Response to Re: The Build A Bankroll Thread:
    Good post Jim. Glad to see you enjoyed on the whole your live experience, although I know what you mean about some people being unwelcoming and generally unsympathetic to newbies. I'm really happy you're posting away on here- I feel like it's just as much your thread as anyone's now, but if you wish to start your own thread I can understand that. Keep it all going. I feel like there are a lot of people lurking on the thread and reading your exploits and appreciating you taking the time to write about them.
    Posted by RICHORFORD

    Sorry Rich, am getting myself a little lacksadasical in posting my exploits on this BR thread. Though due to recent run-bads and embarrasing spots I haven't posted in a while!!

    I have been monitoring my DYM progress since the last knocking's of 30/4 and I have been busy logging over 40+ games. I've not had the best of records, and for somebody who started out owning those games especially at 30p Turbo level, has been very disheartening. 

    Alas my Current record 30p Turbo Stands at:- 
    Played: 49
    Success: 24
    Fails: 25

    60p Standard DYM w/5min Blinds
    Played: 8
    Success: 2
    Losses: 4

    BR Movement May Thus Far: -£5.60
    In that, I am not encorporating/including either of the TOTP cash, or MTT B/I's (I bought in 1x Deepstack @ £1.10 and didn't cash, but not included that in any of my sums.

    My overall recorded win % currently stands at a mere 46%.

    I am wondering if anyone would help me work out my ROI? (20p profit/50p return from 30p games, double that from the 60p - Thanks!)

    So there-we-go, an update from me.
  • edited May 2014
    In Response to Re: The Build A Bankroll Thread:
    In Response to Re: The Build A Bankroll Thread :  60p Standard DYM w/5min Blinds Played: 8 Success: 2 Losses: 4 - Posted by GaryLaud

    Just a foot-note on my 60p results. I am finding this type of game VERY tricky to adjust to the speed of...It may be my own fault for getting too impatient?

  • edited May 2014
    Most important thing about DYMs is chip survival Gary - remember that :-)
    Are you playing the £1.10 deep stack tonight?
  • edited May 2014
    I was tempted to start a diary so people knew who i was and where i came from, but nah. On a side note in the mega stack on friday someone disclosed my age in the chatbox and thought 'lmao oh dear' and 'he wont last long' etc. Came back to bite them when i was heads up with the guy and it got to the point i was totally outplaying him and he was shoving every hand, so i waited for the perfect spot to call one of his 5x overbet shoves and it worked. Don't factor in personal information into making a decision in poker - simples :-) 
  • edited May 2014
    In Response to Re: The Build A Bankroll Thread:
    Most important thing about DYMs is chip survival Gary - remember that :-) Are you playing the £1.10 deep stack tonight?
    Posted by Matt237
    Hi Matt
    No, am not playing the deepie, or any DYM's for that matter. I am taking the night off from actually playing anything due to a family bereavement - I've been on & off the forums just mainly to post an odd update here & there and respond to messages etc.

    Both Friday & Saturday I should be back playing during the afternoons, before attending two long-planned event's on both nights. (With the good wishes of my family)
  • edited May 2014
    So i stayed away from tournaments that would affect my ROI for promo (I'm trying to see if 150% will hold over a week or so before i decide on my way forward) And i played some cash today. Really enjoyed it, playing so aggressive certainly pays off when you get a hand. I don't think i've ever 5bet 10 3 clubs in my life :-)
  • edited May 2014

    Session 119 +£24.44  Br: 498.82

    Quck hour. Started badly losing a full buyin QQ<AA on a low board. I kept my head and got lucky in a few pots....flopped 666 in 3b pot, turned a straight in a 3b pot and got paid in full. Not a great start to the month with not much opportunity to play and mixed results.


  • edited May 2014
    Week 2 of my May challenge is complete and my BR for the first five days (M-F) showed a HUGE Loss of -£4.09 and an average Win % on my DYM's of just 37%. 

    I also had 1x day off/away from participating in poker due to a family bereavement on Thurs 8th. 

    On Friday I was reviewing alot of my play and talking over strategy with friends & more experienced players on the site, and it was something which one of those said "why are you sticking with Turbo's? I know they are cheap for you but I think the slower pace of the Standard DYM will/should be easier for you to beat". I mulled this over alot, and played my first 60p DYM in more than a week, and alas I duly cashed in it!

    Weekend (Sat/Sun 10-11th May)
    Saturday afternoon and evening I played four more 60p DYM's (With 5min blinds opposed to 2mins in turbos) and the improvement was quite STAGGERING! Cashes in 3/4 of them and the only one I didnt cash in, I had to restart my laptop and had only 200 chips left by the time I got it all restarted. 

    Tonight's been the same. Didnt get started until  V late, but managed 3 games, and cashed in 2! In the game I 'Lost' I GII with AA's and just stayed with 1xpair all the way to the river. Oppy turns over k9o for 2xpairs and I was OUT! 
    BR Mvnt for Sat/Sun:- +0.80p!
    BR Mvnt for week: -£3.59
  • edited May 2014
    120 -29.29
    121 -8.58   BR: 460.95

    No luck again. Actually, I cant quite believe that I didnt make a profit in my last session today. I got paid 50bb when flopped a set, busted a mouthy maniac (folding is gay apparently) for 80bb and generally ran pretty well. When I came to review the results my flabber was well and truly 'gasted!

    After a half decent start in the mtt/stt roi challenges I have fallen away so the rest of the month will mainly be put into cash games to try and rack up my required points tally of 3k. Currently only at 650 points and my not feeling very motivated but I WILL stay committed to my task.

  • edited May 2014
    122 30 mins -46.91 BR: 414.04

    Supertilt halfhour after this in first hand:
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    MJCEO Small blind   £0.05 £0.05 £16.65
    jimb0d1 Big blind   £0.10 £0.15 £9.90
    skymac47 Sit out        
    supercrazy Sit out        
      Your hole cards
    • A
    • A
         
    lfirk Call   £0.10 £0.25 £11.87
    greenfly12 Fold        
    MJCEO Raise   £0.35 £0.60 £16.30
    jimb0d1 Raise   £1.30 £1.90 £8.60
    lfirk Fold        
    MJCEO Call   £1.00 £2.90 £15.30
    Flop
       
    • 5
    • J
    • 5
         
    MJCEO Bet   £1.45 £4.35 £13.85
    jimb0d1 Call   £1.45 £5.80 £7.15
    Turn
       
    • 6
         
    MJCEO Bet   £2.90 £8.70 £10.95
    jimb0d1 All-in   £7.15 £15.85 £0.00
    MJCEO Call   £4.25 £20.10 £6.70
    MJCEO Show
    • 9
    • A
         
    jimb0d1 Show
    • A
    • A
         
    River
       
    • 7
         
    MJCEO Win Flush to the Ace £18.70   £25.40
  • edited May 2014
    No need to tilt at all and played it pretty badly on the turn. When I tilt there is no red mist or outward emotional signs, I simply tell myself 'Ah well, lets just bet a lot and see what happens!'....knowing that I will probabaly have a session like this and regret it.

    'If you've got a set Larson lets see it!!!.....oh......'
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    supercrazy Small blind   £0.05 £0.05 £9.95
    rahulrooj Big blind   £0.10 £0.15 £2.90
      Your hole cards
    • 9
    • J
         
    LARSON7 Raise   £0.30 £0.45 £10.57
    show_me Fold        
    jimb0d1 Call   £0.30 £0.75 £11.09
    supercrazy Fold        
    rahulrooj Fold        
    Flop
       
    • Q
    • 3
    • K
         
    LARSON7 Bet   £0.60 £1.35 £9.97
    jimb0d1 Call   £0.60 £1.95 £10.49
    Turn
       
    • 6
         
    LARSON7 Bet   £1.60 £3.55 £8.37
    jimb0d1 Raise   £4.90 £8.45 £5.59
    LARSON7 All-in   £8.37 £16.82 £0.00
    jimb0d1 Call   £5.07 £21.89 £0.52
    LARSON7 Show
    • 3
    • 3
         
    jimb0d1 Show
    • 9
    • J
         
    River
       
    • Q
         
    LARSON7 Win Full House, 3s and Queens £20.49   £20.49
  • edited May 2014
    Simply baaaaAAAAaaaaaaaaad and wont be playing again today. Sorry for the boring hand histories but needed to vent. Bah!!!!!

    Back on it tomorrow! Overall BR has shrunk a little recently as well although it wont affect the games I can comfortably buy in to.  If nothing else this diary really has shown that you cant take short term results too seriously in isolation and that a deep BR is required. Thankfully I have always been a tight Yorkshireman so still got plenty buyins in reserve for another day.
  • edited May 2014
    Fold pre 100bb w J9s imo. 

    Raise flop instead of turn.  Or flat flat ship/fold
  • edited May 2014
    In Response to Re: The Build A Bankroll Thread:
    Fold pre 100bb w J9s imo.  Raise flop instead of turn.  Or flat flat ship/fold
    Posted by TPTP123
    Disagree. Can't see anything wrong with calling J9s in pos. Flop is where it went wrong. Need to raise here. Our equity is at its strongest, we can rep so much and fold out a lot of hands. After calling flop we can only call turn as this card changes little and we can't really rep much here so  getting him off a hand isn't going to happen. 
  • edited May 2014
    Agree with Craig. Folding J9 suited on the button this deep is a bit too tight. Gotta raise the flop!!
  • edited May 2014
    I demand a recount.  And redisagree... also 110bb is deep?  We need to be like at least 150bb to flat here with J9s.  is leak if your flatting this on button at a 5 handed table.  6handed I agree flat. May sound silly but there is a difference. 

    I would rather flat with 65s,54s, sorry for derail. 

  • edited May 2014
    123 +5.61 BR: 419.65

    Slow and steady start to the day.

    On the j9s hand it is the kind of hand that I will sometimes fold to good player's utg raise when concentrating and playing a tight game, but overplay constantly when on autopilot and/or 'tilted'.

  • edited May 2014
    Remember when we play in position it is less about our hand and more about our opponents. Therefore J9s and a lot of other good combo hands are easily profitable to play in position. 
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