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If the guy does NOT 3 bet, & blinds are, say, 25-50, A-A-6-3 is VERY hard to play if we make it 175 to go & get 3 callers. Short of really smacking the flop hard, we generally have to give up. So it's usually a limp-fold job.
BUT.....
Once the kid 3 bets in front of us, now we have the leverage to pot it & know for sure nobody else will come along & we will be Heads Up. What we really want now is Matey Boy to 5 bet, so we get it all in pre. No tricky decisions down the streets then. If he flats, it can get a bit awkward, but he probably has a NLH hand - A-K-x-x A-Q-x-x, K-K-x-X, Q-Q-x-x, J-J-x-x, something like that. He might even have a wheel hand - A-2-5-7, something like that. Strangely, some folks are quite happy to get it all in early with that sort of stuff.
Happy to go to war, & what will be will be.
PLO & especially PLO8 are really quite specialist as to starting hands, safe flops, dangerous flops, board textures, when wee should or should not continue, good & bad bluffing boards etc.
For instance, if we are multi way & the flop comes 2 or 3 low cards, NEVER try to bluff, as most callers are on the low, & it wont get through. If the flop & turn only contain one low card, now we have a great bluffing spot.
If you want a bit of coaching "Markycash" will help you out - he has been very helpful to me & others, & we did it all by e-Mail.
If you just want some ABC stuff, you & I can have a session whereby you ring me, & I talk you though a game or two whilst I am playing as to how we make pre & post flop decisions, & why.
Clearly, a large part of the equation is "how to play a DYM", & you have got all that sussed already.
It continues to stagger me beyond belief how many folks don't get the different strategy required between MTTs & DYM's. We don't need all the chips, & we don't need an ego.
With 4 of us left last night, & all 4 of us having near identical stacks of 3,000, a kid potted it & I 3 bet him with very good aces. That just about got me all-in. Now player # 3 repots it. WTF? Opener comes along, & 3 of us are all-in.
Player 3's hand was A-10-5-4. How can he EVER think he is beating two all-ins with that? He had to be behind at both ends to both of us, & he was. And so he busted. If he folds the hand - as anyone surely would - he "wins" the DYM without even putting a single chip at risk in that exit hand.
Think it came all high, & I did a get.
Anyway, it was pretty much a flip.
I'd said more but lost that. Probably wisely. But looked back at the time of your SPT win as to the characters around at the time - where are they now?
Meanwhile best of luck to Penny, sounds awful what she is going through.
Love the forum on the phone. Lost my initial post but luckily I'd copied it. But it only let me paste it in the title not in the post itself. #sortitoutsky
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Stick to proper poker, forget the silly game.
See you at the PLO8 DYM tables
If you play a few more, you'll get to know the serial stations, the guys who limp call every hand. We have plenty of them. It's terrible play, but often quite hard to combat, as we don't have a clue what they have, we just have to pot & hope sometimes.
There was not much "value" in the big ones (£11 & £16.50) last night, the games were pretty tough & competitive.
The Baseball Ground was great, I thought, loved the atmo there.
Course, it helped that they had a proper team in those days.