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Not sure if the 9:15pm can keep the same level of guarantee as the 7:15pm but hopefully it will grow as you mention and also as you say at least it was tried. If the £5.50 is staying my personal opinion would be a £150 GTD for the 9:15pm might take the pressure off and help it be viewed as a success in the long term as the margin for error would then be about the same as the 7:15pm game.
Up to your good self what you think is best though. Again thanks for supporting these games and if I bump into you in Vegas this year I will happily buy you several drinks to hopefully make up in some small way for any headaches I have caused you
I have been in e-Mail contact with Marky about this, & so I'll sort those 2 Free Entries now.
pls can you clarify what prizes are on offer for this month?
I thought the prizes were monthly not weekly.
thanks.
There you go Uncle Pom;
please note though sky, when an £11 BH was introduces it instantly got 40+ runners indicating one off interest.
IMO its reasonable to assume 11 and 22 one offs during the next UKOPS would also be popular.
Marky runs this, & I simply arrange the entries, but I believe Pommy won the sort of "Final Table Jackpot" on the very first night, which carried a separate prize.
The other promised prizes remain in place.
"Be the FIRST person to finish top 3 in both tourneys in 1 night that month: £55 (5 x £11 tickets to BH games). The prize for this may 'roll over' to the following month if it is not won in a particular month, this has not been definitively decided yet."
However, I asked him, via Marky, if he would mind taking a £33 & a £22, as the admin hassle of 10 x £5.50, or 5 x £11 prizes, is a bit onerous. If he had declined, fine, he'd have got the 10 or 5 free entries, but he was agreeable. And it's rare that Uncle Pom can be described as "agreeable".
the good news is that so many are intrigued enough to enter at least once. the quest is how to encourage each one of the thousand to play more. they have dipped their toe in the water. how do we get them to jump in? which is where i am coming from. i would love to see you succeed.
good luck marky, scouse.
As for Aussies comment, 1000 unique players is surprisingly high, but I guess if you chop out players who played less than 10 times its drops off quite a lot.
how do you get them to play more? email them all with details of the monthly and weekly thurs leagues.
In Response to Re: New PLO8 BH MTT's (2 added to schedule for 7:15pm & 9:15pm tonight £200 & £200 GTD): Thanks Aussie!
Shows there are enough players with at least some level of interest in the playing the game.
Thanks for clearing up those points Tikay.
One other point... If we get the green light for month 2 of this then the prize payout structure etc will be much easier to follow, will give both regulars and casual players a fair pop at things, and will also help maintain interest in both tourneys throughout the month.
Also it looks like (as far as I recall), tonight may be the first night that the 9:15pm game has drawn more players than the 7:15pm.
I mentioned on the last page I ran some numbers and expected traffic for it to average 42 runners and that the number of runners would generally fluctuate between 32-52. I think this must be pretty much on the money? There has only been 1 night outside the lower range and the odd rare one outside on the higher range and the average field size must be pretty close to, if not exactly, 42.
The 7:15pm has been running longer and looks to be doing 'excellent' (again just my opinion) and from memory I think this is meeting the guarantee almost every time and usually quite comfortably.
The $64 million question then becomes... Has the correct mix been found?
Well Chris posted that after just a few weeks of the games we had somewhere between 400-500 unique players, that figure must be around 1000 by now. So there seems to be a player base there. Also when you bare in mind that only the £5.50 bankroll players are being catered for, this number is surprisingly high.
The down side is that PLO8 DYM traffic has suffered. If the PLO8 MTT schedule could be expanded to help increase the player pool it may help the PLO8 DYM games recover a bit but currently it looks like things are stuck in a bit of a rut.
The most positive aspects seems to be that the PLO8 BH games have proven to be popular (at least relative to the standard format) and that there is a surprisingly decent player base.
The current mix doesn't look to be diverse enough to capitalise on these positives though.
Only people playing £5.50's PLO8 BH's are being catered for and there is a 4 1/2 hour gap in the PLO8 schedule between 2:45pm and 7:15pm that is sitting wide open for some different buy ins to be tested which could draw on completely different elements of the potential PLO8 player pool.
It really looks like a penalty kick to build on the current set up and have something along the lines of...
3:PM - £1.10 Rebuy PLO8 BH (£100 GTD)
4:PM - £2.20 PLO8 BH (£100 GTD)
5:PM - £3.30 PLO8 BH (£100 GTD)
6:PM - £11 PLO8 BH (£200 GTD)
7:15PM - £5.50 PLO8 BH (£200 GTD)
The additional tourneys would allow players of different bankrolls to get involved and help build up the player base. They also wouldn't be competing with any other tourneys due to the big gap in the PLO8 schedule and they may encourage players who have different times available to play to also get involved. It would be really hard to see the additional tourneys suggested struggling to meet their guarantees.
The only potential downside I can think of is a negative impact on PLO8 DYM's but these look to have bottomed out anyway and also do not usually get much traffic in the afternoons. You would also have to hope that if the player base is grown that at some point, some of these players, would eventually start to filter through to the DYM's.
I would understand a reluctance if special privlege was being sought for PLO8 games. However adding a few tourneys which have proven relatively popular into the 4 1/2 hour MTT schedule gap at various buy ins seems like such an easy way to increase the PLO8 player pool, build on the current set up, and should be profitable from Sky's perspective.
Definitely not the most important issue in the world! Would be great if those with their fingers on the magic MTT schedule buttons could consider it though
The games would also be congruent with Sky's overall BH set-up.
No doubt there is a limited pool, the new BHs have detracted from the 20-30 5.5 on some nights.
One issue (for me) is with 2hrs between them though they are doing ok, if you want to play both you have to spend the entire evening on the poker.
FWIW, I don't think the regs who would play an £11 BH T along with any takers from the holdem crew are ready at 6pm.
why not scrap the 2x 5.5 BHs on a sunday and have 1 £11?
An early evening mini BH sound like a good idea.