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Lambert180 ----- Life After The Grind -------

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  • edited October 2013
    Just read your blog Paul and I noticed 1 thing. You referred to Emma as your "current" girlfriend. Is that to keep her on her toes?
  • edited October 2013
    Good luck Paul must have been some decision, hope to see you crushing higher up very soon!
  • edited October 2013
    @ MP33 - I guess the only way to get used to playing mroe tables is to play a couple more than normal and do that until you're used to it, then increase and so on. The main thing though is that you need to be very confident in your decision making abilities in pretty much every single spot that can come up. Obviously sometimes wierd situations will come up you might want to spend a couple more seconds on and you might time out on the odd table (that's no big deal) but if you're playing 12 tables, you're generally gonna be making each decision and clicking the button within like 2 seconds. Imo, it helps having been a gamer just cos it means you have better reactions/co-ordination and will just generally be able to navigate the tables and make your decisions quicker.

    I always try to do anything that will make things more efficient, so if you have a spare bit of time go and tick the autofold button when you have 72o in the CO or whatever.

    RE: Lag.... I really have no idea, I've never had an issue with lag on Sky ever even now I'm 12tabling unless I'm doing something else at the same time, like screensharing/watching youtube/watching 861 on the live stream.

    FWIW, I play on a laptop (with a 2nd monitor you saw in the blog) and specs of that are only...

    Intel Core i3 2.53GHz processor
    4GB RAM (3.8GB usable apparently lol... dunno what that means)
    64 bit Windows

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    @Borin - Yeah would definitely be good to get you involved. Can send you a PM on here if you like to explain but basically you just need to google 'Skype' and download it for free. I don't think you need to make a log-in for it if you use hotmail/windows live (whatever they call it now), you just use your email address and the password you use for your hotmail emails. If you get on, then you can add me.... Lambert1801 .... yes I know, Lambert180 was taken :(

    @ FlyingDagg - Lol, good point. I wasn't sure how to word it with me talking about the past.

    @Benc - Cheers mate, aint seen you around for ages!
  • edited October 2013
    Some of you may know, but I've been having a pretty rough time on the cash tables which has now been going on for the better part of 4 weeks.

    As per some advice from Dohhhhhh, I decided to have a more chilled night tonight just playing a few MTTs. It was a night of near misses really but still managed to make a decent profit which is more than can be said for cash recently ;)

    Played the £11 £4k BH, went semi-deep but missed out on a cash and finished with £8.44 of heads.

    Not so deep in the mini, but still probably 2hr+ hours in before I bust with just £1.88 of heads.

    Played the UKOPS supersat, £13 BI and 1st got a £530 high roller seat, 2nd - 6th got a £110 ME seat. I'd pre-regged both cos I just wanted to play for the cash, and ended up busting in 8th, 2 spots off the seats :( pretty big bubble for a £13 BI.

    My best result was in the main event where I finished 22nd out of 806 runners for a little over £170. Nice cash but still really feels like a near miss and I'd said quite far out I wouldn't be happy with anything less than a FT.

    Lambert180    0    22    £66.50 + £105.30 Head Prizes    6    

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    Still though, finished about +£100 for the night on MTTs so happy with that.
  • edited October 2013
    It took me ages to figure out Skype. It wouldn't let me sign in... I'm so stupid.

    Anyway, I sent a contact request.
  • edited October 2013
    I've accepted and added you into the group on there. Most people are under their Sky alias so pretty obv who is who
  • edited October 2013
    In Response to Re: Lambert180 ----- Lolpro and Onwards:
    Some of you may know, but I've been having a pretty rough time on the cash tables which has now been going on for the better part of 4 weeks. As per some advice from Dohhhhhh, I decided to have a more chilled night tonight just playing a few MTTs. It was a night of near misses really but still managed to make a decent profit which is more than can be said for cash recently ;) Played the £11 £4k BH, went semi-deep but missed out on a cash and finished with £8.44 of heads. Not so deep in the mini, but still probably 2hr+ hours in before I bust with just £1.88 of heads. Played the UKOPS supersat, £13 BI and 1st got a £530 high roller seat, 2nd - 6th got a £110 ME seat. I'd pre-regged both cos I just wanted to play for the cash, and ended up busting in 8th, 2 spots off the seats :( pretty big bubble for a £13 BI. My best result was in the main event where I finished 22nd out of 806 runners for a little over £170. Nice cash but still really feels like a near miss and I'd said quite far out I wouldn't be happy with anything less than a FT. Lambert180    0    22    £66.50 + £105.30 Head Prizes    6     =================================================================== Still though, finished about +£100 for the night on MTTs so happy with that.
    Posted by Lambert180
    Nice one , how is your bankroll looking @ the moi ?
  • edited October 2013
    Hi Sue,

    Tbh bankroll has been taking a beating recently. I'm currently in the middle of a £1.5k downswing on cash at the moment, just seem to be incapable of bagging 1-2 half decent winning sessions without having a monster losing session days later and wiping it all out (and more). Luckily a bit of C4P and small bits and bobs from MTTs has kept my head above water.

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    On a similar topic to the above, I think all this battering I'm taking at cash is starting to just leave my head feeling mashed. I've looked at an absolute ton of my HHs and while there's some bits of bad play here and there and I'm by no means the perfect cash player, a massive amount of the hands are just completely standard and it's mostly just variance... whether that be in the form of not getting value from big hands, getting coolered, getting bad beats when aipf, opponents catching up a lot more than they will do long term etc etc.

    Obv I'm experienced enough to know that changing game won't change how I run, but it can definitely change how you feel mentally and that's a massive part of poker... nothing worse, both in terms of just how you feel and your actual results, than to sit down expecting to lose.

    So I'm changing things up a bit, will be playing a few more MTTs this week and gonna generally be grinding alot of HU SnGs (Turbos). Chance to go back to a format I know I'm a winner at, earn double points and get a break from cash.

    Then I'm planning on putting together my first proper schedule for a UKOPS (possibly selling some action), and will hopefully come back feeling all refreshed to finish out the month with double points on cash. Also got SPT towards the end of the month too.

    New blog gonna be coming for SPT Grand Final, will post up a link when it's done.
  • edited October 2013
    Paul

    I know you take regular trips overseas to play tourneys.
    Have you ever considered playing cash in these exotic places?

    The games you play in on here are stronger presently than at any time since I started on Sky.
    Obviously I'm not saying you can't beat it but the games where 3/4 good regs are playing are never going to be easy.

    The banter is good but now you're doing this for a living the profits are really what it's all about

    Just a thought.

    (Just realised that Sky prob wouldn't like this post. For balance, I think you should play loads and loads of tourneys on here as Sky is clearly the best site in the world) 
  • edited October 2013
    Have you ever considered playing cash in these exotic places?


    if he sells that to his missus, he's officially my poker hero.

    i'm lucky if i'm allowed to hold the remote control in my house

    cheers,
    TEDDY
  • edited October 2013
    Sorry to hear the bankroll is taking a battering at the cash tables. Are you going to need to move down stakes?

    What sort of things are you sturggling with? Are you putting enough volume in?  Are you making sure you have a good grind schedule? and good balance?  Are you making sure that your get regular excercise and can switch off from poker and relax with mrs and friends?  

    I've been there mate, i grinded cash online for about a year off work in 2008 and had a pretty successfull financial year but I wouldn't want to go back to playing full time unless i knew i could knew i could smash £60K a year easily in proft without poker stress spilling over into my normal life and had a bankroll of £30K in reserve purely made from poker. 

    I personally dont think you should move away from the cash tables 100%... as this is where most pros will make their bread and butter. You should grind it out and work out where your leaks are, (tilt? grinding out a downswing?) if you don't feel like playing then just fire up 8 tables of a particular reg who is causing you a problem, record the screen, make some notes regarding his play in 3bet+ pots and then destroy him when you go back to the tables. 

    Its okay to take some time out to follow your dream mate, but don't waste this opportunity by going back to your comfort zone. 

    You need to play to withdraw significant amounts of money and on a regular monthly basis.... whats your plan on this front? living on rakeback?? Getting a good poker schedule in place is key and balance other parts of your life as well fella!!!  

    You don't want to go back to employments with regrets that you didn't give it your all... 100%... playing poker full time is dangerous, it can consume your soul and suck all the good relationships out of your life!!! be prepared for that

    Also I think you should seriously be chasin some way to get sponsered by sky or something to ease the burden.  Wa gonna mention this when you first said you'd be playing full time but I would recommend to sky this blog is the sort of thing they should promote. 
  • edited October 2013
    I'm off to bed so will reply to TPTP tomorrow cos it's a massive post and wanna give a good reply.

    @Jac - I don't know if you're mistaking me for someone else or it's just a joke that's gone completely over my head lol but that doesn't sound like me you're describing. I'm 26 and have left the country (not counting Scotland and Wales) once in my life and that was to France when I was about 7.

    Related to this actually... I may post about this tomorrow but in short, Emma's brother who lives in San Francisco has fallen very ill over the last few days, so I think we're going to be flying out soon to see him, so that'll be my 2nd time out of the country and my first time in America, although sadly not under the best of circumstances.

    But yeah the games on here are definitely tighter/more solid than they have ever been, to the point where it's become an absolute nightmare to try and get value out of anyone at times. One thing I think I need to do is reduce my number of tables, and get back to really playing some poker because playing like a robot (I aint quite that bad :p) aint the way to beat a table full of robots.

    I really agree with you though, and I'm desperate to get out there and play some live cash. I always mean to do it at an SPT but annoyingly the next one is at DTD and I've been warned that if you wanna play live cash, it's definitely better to play at a proper casino and not DTD (a cardroom), and that while the games can still be soft there, they are nowhere near as soft as in casinos. I think, SPTs aside, I need to plan a few days out to my nearest casinos (probably Reading or Luton) and give it a whirl.
  • edited October 2013
    In Response to Re: Lambert180 ----- Lolpro and Onwards:
    I'm off to bed so will reply to TPTP tomorrow cos it's a massive post and wanna give a good reply. @Jac - I don't know if you're mistaking me for someone else or it's just a joke that's gone completely over my head lol but that doesn't sound like me you're describing. I'm 26 and have left the country (not counting Scotland and Wales) once in my life and that was to France when I was about 7. Related to this actually... I may post about this tomorrow but in short, Emma's brother who lives in San Francisco has fallen very ill over the last few days, so I think we're going to be flying out soon to see him, so that'll be my 2nd time out of the country and my first time in America, although sadly not under the best of circumstances. But yeah the games on here are definitely tighter/more solid than they have ever been, to the point where it's become an absolute nightmare to try and get value out of anyone at times. One thing I think I need to do is reduce my number of tables, and get back to really playing some poker because playing like a robot (I aint quite that bad :p) aint the way to beat a table full of robots. I really agree with you though, and I'm desperate to get out there and play some live cash. I always mean to do it at an SPT but annoyingly the next one is at DTD and I've been warned that if you wanna play live cash, it's definitely better to play at a proper casino and not DTD (a cardroom), and that while the games can still be soft there, they are nowhere near as soft as in casinos. I think, SPTs aside, I need to plan a few days out to my nearest casinos (probably Reading or Luton) and give it a whirl.
    Posted by Lambert180
    Yeah, it went over your head. Even I know what it means ;)

    Granted, not great circumstances to visit San Fran but having seen my beloved Man City over there in 2011, I can assure you it's a great city. Hopefully he gets better, but if you do venture over don't forget your ESTA and if you want me to find you cheap flights just PM me (I'm essentially an unpaid travel agent in my spare time!).

    I don't play live cash very often, but the last time I was at DTD (for the Grand Prix a few weeks ago), the cash tables were so soft. There were players happy to get £100+ in pre flop with KJ and A9 etc. This might not be the norm for DTD but I was loving it! 
  • edited October 2013
    Think Jac may be suggesting a few cash sessions played using Euro's fella......
    Get it now?


  • edited October 2013
    In Response to Re: Lambert180 ----- Lolpro and Onwards:
    Think Jac may be suggesting a few cash sessions played using Euro's fella...... Get it now?
    Posted by SJspanky1
    lol! +1

    Slight misunderpitation there Lambert.
  • edited October 2013
    Sigh I'm so slow :( Cheers for the interpretation guys!

    Ok well same applies about me wanting to play more live, but yeah wanna give things a go in my more exotic locations too.

    Cheers Harry, we've currently in the process of trying to get passports ASAP (Emma has never had one and I got my first one when I was 16 and I'm 27 in a couple of weeks so it's just recently ran out). Cheap flights would be good, I'm the ultimate life nit... think the best Emma could find was in the region of £500 per person, is that good/average/bad?
  • edited October 2013
    In Response to Re: Lambert180 ----- Lolpro and Onwards:
    In Response to Re: Lambert180 ----- Lolpro and Onwards : lol! +1 Slight misunderpitation there Lambert.
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    Is that another Donism?
  • edited October 2013
    As and when you know the dates, give me a shout and I'll see what I can do. But £500 is not a bad price these days to fly all the way to west coast America.
  • edited October 2013
    Cheers Harry, I'll drop you a PM when I know more.

    As a bit of background, we found out nearly a week ago that Emma's brother who lives in San Francisco has something called AVM. I don't know the full details but I believe it's an issue with the arteries around the brain or at least it is his case. He was brought in to the hospital a few days ago when he went numb down one side of his body and has been sedated most of that time while they try to drain the blood from around his brain. They've had awake on and off for for the last couple of days and he is now able to talk although seems to have trouble finding the words he wants to say. He's been able to lift the thumbs on both hands which is a good sign but is still unable to move his toes and obviously they won't be can't be sure yet if there will be any lasting damage to his brain.

    Emma's bro is quite high up (director of product design) in Yahoo and we've had a phone call from the CEO of Yahoo who is very good friends with him saying that they're gonna do whatever it takes to make sure he gets the absolute best possible care so it's great to have that support. Seems pretty crazy knowing the CEO of Yahoo is involved!

    So we're looking to go out there to see him in the very near future which means me and Emma are both in a rush to get ourselves passports.
  • edited October 2013
    Hey TPTP.... finally replying.

    Yeah my BR has taken a bit of a beating but at this stage it's not enough to force me to move down stakes... JUST! So yeah can still continue as I am now but can't afford to continue getting battered for too much longer.

    Grind schedule is organised and decent, possibly too rigid if anything. I'm definitely doing well with the volume, usually playing between 9-12 tables for the better part of 40hr per week. I generally do like 6-7 hours on a Friday and Saturday night, then do 4hr sessions a few other weeknights and a few weekdays to make up to about 40hr. This has reduced a little over the last week or so because I'm finding it mentally tough just getting butchered every session. Sometimes I find it hard to switch off after a horrible session but if I'm playing on the Xbox 360 or watching a film with the girlfriend or something then that generally takes my mind off it all.

    I can't help but feel that my game has become a little more robotic of late. Not like being a massive nit just waiting for the nuts but sometimes missing out on villian dependent moves so might miss out on a street of value against X villian because he's stationy or by incorrectly paying off Y villian because he's just nut peddling. So these are definite leaks.... but then I dunno if I'm overthinking this and possibly just trying to find excuses for why I'm losing. There's no doubting, no matter what I say, the majority of is it pure and simple variance giving me a kick in the chops. Very good idea about spending some time to focus on a particular player and figuring out how to destroy him. One thing I do know is that there are a group of players who all play my level and who are all staked by the same person and all have virtually identical nut peddling games, so watching one of them is basically the equivelant of watching about 6+ of the regs at my level.

    It's really hard to know what the best thing to do is. Part of me wants to reduce the tables and try to get some focus back because I'm wondering if the problem is playing so many tables.... but at the same time, I played about 100,000 hands in my first month which were pretty much all while 12tabling and I smashed it, and really don't think I ran particularly well in the process.

    Obviously I'd love to be sponsored by Sky or something lol but would have no idea how to go abou it and doubt they'd want to. There's nothing really special about me, other than I guess they could say I'm the guy that spun it all up from £20 but I'm sure there's a million others out there that have done similar.

    FWIW, this is my 3rd month of playing full time and so far my first 2 months have been profitable. First month was a very good start, but the 2nd month I kinda got out of jail and only managed to have a very small winning month thanks to rakeback and a couple of MTT binks on another site. It would have been a lot more profitable if not for losing something in the region of £1.2k at cash before the end of last month and this month started in similar fashion which has left me trying to 'get out of it' again.
  • edited October 2013
    Okay, I can only call it how I think i see it.   And to be honest I think going back to your comfort zone is not best way forward if your serious about this full time stuff.  

    The hardest part about becoming a full time online cash reg is bedding in after that luxurious 4-6 week honeymoon period when no one has played THAT much volume against you.... thereafter players start developing reads on you... and if there's a whole bunch of them being staked you - can bet your house their prob discussing strategy against certain opponents as well. (Not calling anyone out just sayin it like it is). 

    This is when it counts for something, now its about playing 1 hour and studying for 2 hours.  Putting that extra time in to develop new readjustments you need to make against the regs.  ESPECIALLY in 3bet pots, once you do some studying away from the table and work on "3bet+ pot" reads versus 1 oppononent and your adjustments start coming off it doesn't half feel good. 

    You can always consider some coaching as well... ultimatley its your call but i think heading over to sngs and then coming back to cash in the future isnt going to answer where things are at in terms of your skills and development areas. It might be as small an area as just grinding out another 200K hands... but its hard to go into lockdown mode on a downswing to even it out just to breakeven!!

    RE the sky sponsership thing, thats down to you to make happen.  Youve done all the hard work with this blog and the evidence is all in here with the hard work.  There's no reason why you can't follow in the footsteps or scotty or redmond... thats what you should be aiming for imo to get the most out of this experience. Even if its not that likely to happen... if you keep knocking on the door you never know!!!





  • edited October 2013

    Meant to reply ages ago but cheers for the advice TPTP, I'm definitely gonna spend some time picking on particular regs and trying to get much more detailed reads.

    And yeah the Sky thing is down to me to make it happen, it's definitely something I've always been interested in like. I was well happy with Tikay picked me to play for Team Sky Poker and would deffo love to get more involved with Sky like that, maybe even make a guest appearance on 861.

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    I meant to post up this morning so I'll post up in the tone/manner I intended to at the time lol.

    Well the hits just keep on coming! It's now the better part of 7-8 weeks where I've barely managed to have 1 winning session at any format. This morning was my first time back at cash in about a week, and it wasn't any kinder to me than it was on my last visit. I also played a couple of MTTs. To the best of my recollection I got it in pre 5 times this morning (twice in MTTs and 3 times in cash).

    Cash
    AKo v JJ - lose
    AKs v QQ - lose
    JJ v ATo - lose

    MTTs
    £5 BH exit - AA v KK - lose
    £11 BH exit - KK v AA - lose   (gotta laugh at them two)

    All pretty standard spots...(well except someone getting stacks in with ATo at 20NL) just a shame all 5 of them didn't go my way. Also had a pretty rough time of people just generally outdrawing me in cash at a higher than normal rate. Bricked every MTT except a £5 timed tourney where I cashed for just over £20 so that saved my MTTs for the morning.

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    This evening went a little better. I went in with a clear plan... win the Mini, and win the Priority freeroll. Things didn't quite go to plan as I bust the Mini in probably <30 mins. Pretty standard, I got shortish, and 3bet shipped AT, it was a little deeper than I normally 3bet jam but I know you get such ridic light calls in the Mini BHs so think it was fine, called by KQ and couldn't hold anyway.

    I didn't win the Priority FR but I did manage to get my first ever cash in one of them and £160 comes in very handy when you're bleeding money like no-one's business.
    shawsok - £7402MIKEY802 - £4403SoLack - £3004b123n - £2205Lambert180 - £1606winner5603 - £140

    I also had my first winning session at cash for what feels like about a million years. Only a small win of £33.25 but I'll take anything at the mo.

    So all in all, pretty brutal morning, but finished about +£145 tonight on MTTs and +£33 on cash to claw back this morning's losses and make a bit of a profit. Fingers crossed All this rungood I'm due will all be released this weekend and I can get a nice score at the SPT.

  • edited October 2013

    Morning session started off pretty horrible and thought I was in for another slog, but it did manage to pick up towards the end, and I clawed back most of the earlier losses to finish -£6.73... I'll take that, given how I ran.

    Dohhhhh's requested more HHs in the diary so here are a couple from this morning (he specifically requested I post the first one)....

    Moore has been open shipping or 3bet shipping pretty much every hand for the last. Don't see any point 3betting to iso, not gonna get people calling 25xBB ships too light behind me.... it's not a BH ;)   or is it...

    Check the flop to give them 1 chance to try and get me out of the pot if they want to, even though it's a dry side pot, most people don't realise... either way I'm not folding. Nice cooler flop either way lol.

    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    moore03686 Small blind  £0.10 £0.10 £5.26
    Lambert180 Big blind  £0.20 £0.30 £39.81
      Your hole cards
    • 10
    • 10
         
    lauren924 Call  £0.20 £0.50 £12.90
    stien Fold     
    neluck Raise  £0.60 £1.10 £36.21
    splashies Fold     
    moore03686 All-in  £5.26 £6.36 £0.00
    Lambert180 Call  £5.16 £11.52 £34.65
    lauren924 Call  £5.16 £16.68 £7.74
    neluck Fold     
    Flop
       
    • 10
    • 5
    • 3
         
    Lambert180 Check     
    lauren924 Check     
    Turn
       
    • 7
         
    Lambert180 Bet  £16.68 £33.36 £17.97
    lauren924 All-in  £7.74 £41.10 £0.00
    Lambert180 Unmatched bet  £8.94 £32.16 £26.91
    moore03686 Show
    • Q
    • Q
       
    Lambert180 Show
    • 10
    • 10
       
    lauren924 Show
    • 6
    • 8
       
    River
       
    • 2
         
    lauren924 Win Flush to the 10 £30.55  £30.55
    Next up, just a nice 3 outter.
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    Lambert180 Small blind  £0.10 £0.10 £19.44
    tatohead Big blind  £0.20 £0.30 £20.87
      Your hole cards
    • 10
    • A
         
    oceandog Fold     
    splashies Fold     
    tmulh Call  £0.20 £0.50 £8.42
    Lambert180 Raise  £0.70 £1.20 £18.74
    tatohead Fold     
    tmulh Call  £0.60 £1.80 £7.82
    Flop
       
    • 7
    • 10
    • 9
         
    Lambert180 Bet  £0.80 £2.60 £17.94
    tmulh All-in  £7.82 £10.42 £0.00
    Lambert180 Raise  £14.04 £24.46 £3.90
    Lambert180 Unmatched bet  £7.02 £17.44 £10.92
    Lambert180 Show
    • 10
    • A
       
    tmulh Show
    • 10
    • J
       
    Turn
       
    • J
         
    River
       
    • 2
         
    tmulh Win Two Pairs, Jacks and 10s £16.56  £16.56
    The just for some balance, I'll post a hand where I won :D
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    Lambert180 Small blind  £0.10 £0.10 £65.41
    splashies Big blind  £0.20 £0.30 £44.00
      Your hole cards
    • A
    • K
         
    miblack19 Raise  £0.80 £1.10 £64.63
    tatohead Fold     
    Lambert180 Raise  £2.10 £3.20 £63.31
    splashies Fold     
    miblack19 Call  £1.40 £4.60 £63.23
    Flop
       
    • 8
    • 8
    • 4
         
    Lambert180 Bet  £2.20 £6.80 £61.11
    miblack19 Raise  £4.40 £11.20 £58.83
    Lambert180 Call  £2.20 £13.40 £58.91
    Turn
       
    • 10
         
    Lambert180 Check     
    miblack19 Bet  £6.70 £20.10 £52.13
    Lambert180 Call  £6.70 £26.80 £52.21
    River
       
    • Q
         
    Lambert180 Bet  £16.00 £42.80 £36.21
    miblack19 Fold     
    Lambert180 Show
    • A
    • K
       
    Lambert180 Win  £25.46  £61.67
    Lambert180 Return  £16.00 £1.34 £77.67
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    Was gonna play quite a few MTTs this morning but such a poor selection going. Don't fancy playing a £5 BH with 15% rake when 1st place is about £40! So in the end I just played a £5.50 timed tourney where I cashed for £27.66 and a few MTTs over in foreign lands. Not been doing too well on there for a couple of weeks, got my first cash in a while today but it was tiny, came in the somewhere in the 40th - 50th region in a €5 which had €500 FTW... I got €6.57 lol.

    Amusingly, I'm about +£260 this month on MTTs, the only format I'm in profit for this month.
  • edited October 2013
    That A10 vs J10 hand, he has more outs than you realise I think ;)
  • edited October 2013
    In Response to Re: Lambert180 ----- Lolpro and Onwards:
    That A10 vs J10 hand, he has more outs than you realise I think ;)
    Posted by hhyftrftdr
    Lol sorry 7 outs then. At first glance (or 2nd glance cos u just told me) I thought it was 6 outs cos of the 8s but he'd have a straight flush. Still drawing fairly thin.
  • edited October 2013
    Interesting read last few pages. I have my own opinions (most you wouldn't like so I'll keep them off the thread) but one thing I will say is you shouldn't be playing 12 tables.

    Given the state of the games can you think of a worse way to beat up regs than doing exactly the same as them? Grinding as many tables as you can in a robotic style just adds to the problem.

    My opinion? Play 6 tables (8 maximum) and develop a style that beats the other 5 nut peddlers on your table... Then you'll enjoy the game a bit more too.
  • edited October 2013
    Pryce, do you not think it's also kinda robotic stealing blinds and the like? Playing against "nut peddlers" as you put it. It's really boring playing against tight players.

    Tho I agree to an extent it must be pushing buttons playing 12 tables. If that's what paul was doing, he'd be as well playing the same levels as DTM.
  • edited October 2013
    Yeah I have to agree I dont know how profitable and good for your game it can be to 12 table. But I'm sure you have experimented with different numbers of tables and found that generates the most profit? It could be worthwhile though to try doing so again - one session just play 3 tables, another play 5 tables, another play 8 tables. Do this a few times and see how your winrate does doing this.

    I often find just 1/2 tabling sometime I get my most profit. I do sometimes wish I could mass multi-table but when you can win 8 BI just single tabling over a few hours it doesn't seem so bad!!
  • edited October 2013
    In Response to Re: Lambert180 ----- Lolpro and Onwards:
    Pryce, do you not think it's also kinda robotic stealing blinds and the like? Playing against "nut peddlers" as you put it. It's really boring playing against tight players. Tho I agree to an extent it must be pushing buttons playing 12 tables. If that's what paul was doing, he'd be as well playing the same levels as DTM.
    Posted by LARSON7
    Of course it's boring playing against tight players, why do you think the games are in the state they are in? Even weaker players are capable of looking at tables and deciding not to play against the same 5 players, who only give them action when they have a set or KK+...

    I went through a stage of having absolutely zero motivation to play - not because I couldn't win but because I found it so mind numblingly boring!

    I haven't played cash on sky properly for a long time so I can't say for sure, but from what I've heard it's pretty reggy and tight. Poker is changing - gone are the days where you had 4 rec players to extract money from on each table. You have to be able to beat good players/regs and spending time developing your game to do that is incredibly important. 
  • edited October 2013
    By the way, not having a go Lambert. Just you say a few times how you want to improve and move up etc - both won't happen robotically grinding 12 tables. Sounds like you kinda know this anyway.
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