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Many Rivers To Cross. A Diary.

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  • edited April 2012
    In Response to Re: Many Rivers To Cross. A Diary.:
    Tommy, or any other opinions, You have just sat down at a casino 1/2 cash game with a  table of unknowns in a major city.  Do you think you can make any useful assumptions about player types or tendencies based on race/ethnicity?
    Posted by simonnatur
    This has been an argument for a long old time.  Mike Caro detailed a whole sort of stereotypes in his book back in the 70s I think.

    Personally I do not make assumptions based on race/age/ethnicity/sex.  The argument for doing this boils down to the old 'Stereotype for a reason' motto.  I think it's dangerous to do this, just because we would get trapped into one mode of thought versus this new player and we may adjust far too late spewing far too much money/value.

    For example, there is a stereotype that female poker players are really tight.  You try telling that to two identical twin young ladies who play on the London circuit.  One's loose, the other is crazy loose.

    I much prefer to treat every new player as a blank canvas.  Yes the shadow of these stereotypes are eating at the back of my mind, but in my opinion these thoughts are to be fought rather than embraced.
  • edited April 2012
    In Response to Re: Many Rivers To Cross. A Diary.:
    In Response to Re: Many Rivers To Cross. A Diary. : This has been an argument for a long old time.  Mike Caro detailed a whole sort of stereotypes in his book back in the 70s I think. Personally I do not make assumptions based on race/age/ethnicity/sex.  The argument for doing this boils down to the old 'Stereotype for a reason' motto.  I think it's dangerous to do this, just because we would get trapped into one mode of thought versus this new player and we may adjust far too late spewing far too much money/value. For example, there is a stereotype that female poker players are really tight.  You try telling that to two identical twin young ladies who play on the London circuit.  One's loose, the other is crazy loose. I much prefer to treat every new player as a blank canvas.  Yes the shadow of these stereotypes are eating at the back of my mind, but in my opinion these thoughts are to be fought rather than embraced.
    Posted by TommyD

    You don't have their phone numbers do you?  ;o)

  • edited April 2012
    In Response to Re: Many Rivers To Cross. A Diary.:
    In Response to Re: Many Rivers To Cross. A Diary. : You don't have their phone numbers do you?  ;o)
    Posted by JockBMW
    I wouldn't have the guts to ask them for their numbers Jock.  I think they move in different circles than me anyway.
  • edited April 2012
    In Response to Re: Many Rivers To Cross. A Diary.:
    How many points are spurs behind Arsenal, i forget.. :)  Own worst enemies there, gone to pot bet u cant wait to get rid of ol Harry now ;) 
    Posted by YOUNG_GUN
    This is why I was the one Spurs fan not to get chirpy.  Obviously still don't want to lose 'Arry and I still don't think he'll be offered and/or take the job.
  • edited April 2012
    I've been a little behind on my updating.  I took a couple of days at 'easy pace' purely down to the fact I was pretty wasted mentally.  The grind has ground me down a little and I needed get some air.

    The DYMs are almost break even.  Finally some volume of players appeared and some good games opened.  From a low of 1.1k in the hole it's now two figures in the hole.  Of course while my DYM game improved the cash game went to pot and i dropped a bit there   I really am that man in the row boat with two holes in the base while owning just one cork.

    Luckily I had a very good cash session this morning.  Managed to get in the right spots against a player where very big will always be called by medium to big.  The value shove swinged out the swong and we're back on track.

    Points thus far - 20.1k
    Profit/loss +£1.7k

    Like Garfield with a lasagne, I am content.
  • edited April 2012
    A little tip for everyone.  Do not try to have a conversation with your estate agent when they are telling you the move date is being put back by four weeks due to a reason they should have told you months ago while trying to pull off a three street bluff with ten high.

    SPEW!!!!!
  • edited April 2012
    So I got to commentate on West Ham versus Brighton today (for full details on the whys and wheres please see Tikay's Weekend plans thread in GPC).  It looks like West Ham finally realised they were in the Championship today and actually acted like that for the first time at home.  Six nil, ouchie for the Gulls, sorry for the many Brighton fans on the forum but it was anililation stuff.

    I bumped into this fellow at half time




    I obviously apologised immediately.

    For those who don't know, that's Julian {Surname that doesn't get through the fiter}, nicknamed The Terminator and former player for West Ham and Liverpool.  He was a left back who took penalties, when i say took penalties he sent the ball, and the keeper if he was stupid enough to get in the way of it, through the net and into the crowd behind.  Really nice chap to chat to, very friendly to be honest, still loves the game and is doing some media work at the moment.  However what I found both striking and a little disturbing were his piercing blue eyes, they seem to say 'we both know I can snap you in two at any moment don't we.'  Sometimes you just know if a guy is seriously hard.
  • edited April 2012
    oh the Melin twins.

    so many stories....
  • edited April 2012
    In Response to Re: Many Rivers To Cross. A Diary.:
    oh the Melin twins. so many stories....
    Posted by scotty77
    Haha, heard plenty.  Never sure how much to believe but I've got a feeling 'most' is close.  Think they play a lot at The Palm Beech which is not a place I go to.  That's the kind of casino I would certainly feel like I should be serving the drinks at.  Or probably taking the coats.  Ok ok, I'd be selling soap in the toilets.  Towel Sir?
  • edited April 2012
    they play everywhere.  they def get about...
  • edited April 2012
    In Response to Re: Many Rivers To Cross. A Diary.:
    In Response to Re: Many Rivers To Cross. A Diary. : This has been an argument for a long old time.  Mike Caro detailed a whole sort of stereotypes in his book back in the 70s I think. Personally I do not make assumptions based on race/age/ethnicity/sex.  The argument for doing this boils down to the old 'Stereotype for a reason' motto.  I think it's dangerous to do this, just because we would get trapped into one mode of thought versus this new player and we may adjust far too late spewing far too much money/value. For example, there is a stereotype that female poker players are really tight.  You try telling that to two identical twin young ladies who play on the London circuit.  One's loose, the other is crazy loose. I much prefer to treat every new player as a blank canvas.  Yes the shadow of these stereotypes are eating at the back of my mind, but in my opinion these thoughts are to be fought rather than embraced.
    Posted by TommyD
    If Carlsberg (other alchoholic beverages are available) did forum posts....

  • edited April 2012
    Challenge update (I know my Mum likes seeing how I'm doing, Hi Mum!).

    Volume has been down, the sofa grind station does not lend itself to heavy multi tabling and I'm paying the price for that right now.  I still think 50k is achievable but it's going to be a close one.  I've deliberately not been paying as high as I usually do as I know I won't have 100% of my game available whie doing this.

    DYMs is still in the red, lost a little so far this weekend but all seemed standard, down a couple of hundred on them at the moment.

    Cash has been swingy the last few days, currently turned on upswing.

    Binked another MTT Friday, managed to take down the £110 BHer.  Learnt a great lesson about bounty hunters as well.  I only took two heads all tournament, these being the gentlemen who finished 3rd and 2nd.  While I didn't get the most amount of money in bounties, the three I effectively got (mine included in the final score) put me nearly alongside the person who took a load but busted before the cash.  I have to play BHers like a normal MTT except in very rare spots where the bounty money comes into pay and these spots are much rarer than I used to think.  Lovely to learn something every day.

    Really happy how I played the final table and heads up, everything was clicking and my brain stayed level throughout.  Talking of heads up I've agreed to give Ladyfingrs a HU cash game later on today.  Ladyfingrs not only is named after a great movie character but for long timers like me made some great posts in the early days of The Clinic on this forum.  I think this'll be really interesting, so much so that I'll be playing while Spurs are playing the cup Semi (Sky+ FTW).  It'll be great to see where I am with HU Cash, been working at it before this challenge started so this is a great litmus test.

    Points so far - 22.7k
    Profit/loss +£2.6k
  • edited April 2012
    dont expect figures but how did your heads up battle go???
  • edited April 2012
    In Response to Many Rivers To Cross. A Diary.:
    So I've been thinking of starting a diary for a little while.  I've been less active on forums for the last couple of months, didn't mean to, just had actual real life stuff to sort.  I'll probably go into that later on if this thread takes. The plan is for this to be half poker, half life.  Please feel free to post what you like in here. My goal is to get back to being more involved in the Clinic, as well as sorting out my game.  But more importantly, just have some fun :) Non Poker fact, am I the only on who thought that Goodylad's forum avatar was a picture of Garfield the Cat rather than a pixilated girl in a bikini.  Seriously, I didn't notice for years. Poker stuff, the head scratcher of the day, hand history is posted below.  Young Mr Rolfus, if you had anything other than J8 you have completely done me Sir, very well played.  Feel free to berate me all. Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance TommyD Small blind   £0.50 £0.50 £244.34 rolfus Big blind   £1.00 £1.50 £205.65 C3PA Big blind   £1.00 £2.50 £115.44   Your hole cards 7 8       C3PA Check         jimmynoleg Fold         TheyDontNo Fold         TommyD Call   £0.50 £3.00 £243.84 rolfus Check         Flop     10 9 7       TommyD Check         rolfus Bet   £6.00 £9.00 £199.65 C3PA Fold         TommyD Call   £6.00 £15.00 £237.84 Turn     6       TommyD Check         rolfus Bet   £10.00 £25.00 £189.65 TommyD Raise   £25.00 £50.00 £212.84 rolfus Raise   £55.00 £105.00 £134.65 TommyD Call   £40.00 £145.00 £172.84 River     A       TommyD Check         rolfus All-in   £134.65 £279.65 £0.00 TommyD Fold         rolfus Muck         rolfus Win   £143.20   £143.20 rolfus Return   £134.65
    Posted by TommyD
  • edited April 2012

    Hi T, (Bump) ;-)
    Q's. 
    1.  Was railing a team-mate last night in the £6k rebuy open and you were on his table.  When I arrrived  you were cl in the tourney by about 20k chips (u had 80k iirc) and there were about 150/330 left.  I thought, "well Tommy has this sown up".  I continued to rail off & on for a couple of hours & I noticed you slipped away, eventually coming around 20th?  Anyways, I remembered that anytime I've been lucky enough to be cl early in a tourney (not often!)  I've either became totally card dead or spewed chips unnecessarily.  I was wondering what tactics you adopt when in this position? Bully, pick spots? etc.
    2. Also, I notice you fired up 2/3 BIG Dym's late last night. (I wasn't stalking -honest!) and I was wondering if this is a normal Friday nite range of games you play?
    pad

  • edited April 2012
    In Response to Re: Many Rivers To Cross. A Diary.never seen you limp before tommy:
    Hi T, (Bump) ;-) Q's.  1.  Was railing a team-mate last night in the £6k rebuy open and you were on his table.  When I arrrived  you were cl in the tourney by about 20k chips (u had 80k iirc) and there were about 150/330 left.  I thought, "well Tommy has this sown up".  I continued to rail off & on for a couple of hours & I noticed you slipped away, eventually coming around 20th?  Anyways, I remembered that anytime I've been lucky enough to be cl early in a tourney (not often!)  I've either became totally card dead or spewed chips unnecessarily.  I was wondering what tactics you adopt when in this position? Bully, pick spots? etc. 2. Also, I notice you fired up 2/3 BIG Dym's late last night. (I wasn't stalking -honest!) and I was wondering if this is a normal Friday nite range of games you play? pad
    Posted by Glenelg
    1)  Depends completely on the players I end up sharing a table with  Being the bully works against some, picking spots works well against others.  Really you have to be ready to use either the sniper rifle or the blunderbuss, but know which one you need.  I made some basic errors in that MTT when I was chip leader and just drizzled away, the main error being I was trying to bully too much.  I ran into a guy who would call OOP every time and then donk lead a pot bet on any flop, pretty difficulty to combat if you're opening too much of a range, which I was.  Was quite disappointed with myself for the game TBH.

    2)  Most nights when I'm playing I fire up all the big buy in DYMs, just trying to get them to run.  Sadly this month I've barely had one £110 run, only ever got the £220 going once ever.  The pool is just not that big yet.
  • edited April 2012
    So I've been lazy.  Nothing to make you feel guilty about this more than switching on the London Marathon on a Sunday morning.  It has been quite a week for the house move.  In brief, delay, delay, delay.  Friday evening we finally got a completion date at just over a month away.  Finally there is light at the end of the stress tunnel, finally there is an end date to the GF going on about the move.  Hopefully.

    Month update, well first the bad news.  Taken a downswong in cash, bit of a big one, still up for the month by a nice chunk but was up for the month by a nicer one.  I'm pushing it too much, trying to win more pots than I should be, need to blow the dust off of old man TAG for a bit.  Now the good news, unstuck on DYMS.  From over a 1k negative we are into the black, phew.  Also, I'm now definitely in the VLV freeroll, now I just need to sort my volume out and really push on.  Hopefully I'll find my mojo again.

    Points this month - 30.5k
    Profit/Loss +£1.9k
  • edited April 2012
    So how did the HU cash go with Ladyfingers Tommy?
  • edited April 2012
    In Response to Re: Many Rivers To Cross. A Diary.:
    So how did the HU cash go with Ladyfingers Tommy?
    Posted by Lambert180
    I replied in that thread.  I finished down about 6 buyins, was a fun game though.  I made some basic errors which I've had a good long look at.  Planning to give a detailed breakdown at some point in the diary but points grind/house move is dominating my life at the moment.
  • edited April 2012
    Ah ok, well could be alot worse for HU cash.

    How's the whole live poker going? I remember you saying on 865 a while ago that your goal for 2012 was to play alot more like poker. You trying to play cash or tournies live (or both)? People always say how soft live cash is in comparison to matching levels online
  • edited April 2012
    In Response to Re: Many Rivers To Cross. A Diary.:
    I've been a little behind on my updating.  I took a couple of days at 'easy pace' purely down to the fact I was pretty wasted mentally.  The grind has ground me down a little and I needed get some air. The DYMs are almost break even.  Finally some volume of players appeared and some good games opened.  From a low of 1.1k in the hole it's now two figures in the hole.  Of course while my DYM game improved the cash game went to pot and i dropped a bit there   I really am that man in the row boat with two holes in the base while owning just one cork. Luckily I had a very good cash session this morning.  Managed to get in the right spots against a player where very big will always be called by medium to big.  The value shove swinged out the swong and we're back on track. Points thus far - 20.1k Profit/loss +£1.7k Like Garfield with a lasagne, I am content.
    Posted by TommyD
    Hi Tommy - Just catching up on youir diary -good dtuff  - was just wondering what levels you are plaing where you are breaking even?

    Theres not a lot of hope for some of us if ur only breaking even

    MP
  • edited April 2012
    In Response to Re: Many Rivers To Cross. A Diary.:
    Ah ok, well could be alot worse for HU cash. How's the whole live poker going? I remember you saying on 865 a while ago that your goal for 2012 was to play alot more like poker. You trying to play cash or tournies live (or both)? People always say how soft live cash is in comparison to matching levels online
    Posted by Lambert180
    I played for 1st time last week at the G in Bpool till about 7am at 50p /£1. Would say the quality is better at 10/20p on here and some 5p/10p
  • edited April 2012
    live holdem is generally very soft

    online holdem i am a massive fish these days as i havent put the work in

    there are obviously good players live but personally the holdem cash game live reminds me of the online game 3-5 years ago...



  • edited April 2012
    In Response to Re: Many Rivers To Cross. A Diary.:
    Ah ok, well could be alot worse for HU cash. How's the whole live poker going? I remember you saying on 865 a while ago that your goal for 2012 was to play alot more like poker. You trying to play cash or tournies live (or both)? People always say how soft live cash is in comparison to matching levels online
    Posted by Lambert180
    Hasn't really happened as of yet mate.  Played a couple of times at the new Aspers in Stratford, the cash is interesting.

    I refuse to say live cash is soft.  Yes people are playing what would be considered -ev, the problem is a lot of internet players have forgotten how to take advantage of this.  Low limit live cash is pretty passive, but because people aren't as good through the streets the more capable players (I would humbly submit I am among them) can get sucked in and start seeing far to many flops then try to out play people who consider folding with middle pair to be a crime against nature.  You have to tighten up for the most part and pick your fancy play spots.  This brings up a secondary problem, you're not multi tabling so you can lose focus during a card dead period really easily.  Then you lose patience and forget to reign it in a little.

    Too many times I've seen good online players storm off ranting about bad players.  Yes they aren't playing optimally, but it's your job as a serious player to unlock the door to their money, they're not going to ship it over to you.  You have to do the hard yards and that is where so many online players fall down when playing live.
  • edited April 2012
    In Response to Re: Many Rivers To Cross. A Diary.:
    In Response to Re: Many Rivers To Cross. A Diary. : Hi Tommy - Just catching up on youir diary -good dtuff  - was just wondering what levels you are plaing where you are breaking even? Theres not a lot of hope for some of us if ur only breaking even MP
    Posted by MP33
    The break even quote was regarding to this month, I'm now ahead this month and as I was before this month ahead lifetime on DYMs.  These days I play £33 and up, with most of the money going into £55ers.

    My ROI isn't great for DYMs to be frank, although it is ahead and the £55ers is the hardest level of all, may well be down lifetime at this level but luckily the C4P generated from mass playing this tips it the other way.
  • edited April 2012
    Funny poker day today, feel liked I've been banging my head against a brick wall.  Made a profit but every move I made seemed to be spotted and slapped out of the ballpark.  Finished 3rd in the £100 BHer but quite frankly was lucky to get that far.  Was among the chip leaders in the Primo until I missed a gear change and nose dived into busto just before the bubble.

    Up on cash, up on DYMs, up on frustration.

    Only in poker can you make a profit and consider it a day I was bad and then make a big loss the next day and say to yourself 'I played well today.'

    Gotta love it.

    C4P - 32.1k
    Profit/loss +£2.5k
  • edited April 2012

    Rumours abound that PS are to buy out/take over FT.  No links please to other forums and such but who fancies discussing that.  I just don't see the point from a PS point of view.  They may be trying to lose the indictments they have from the DOJ but I very much doubt this will make them the centre of the online poker world when the US opens again  I'm quite firmly of the opinion that a casino based start up will pop up when America opens it's doors to online poker again and that the US Government will be fully supportive of it.

    Plus the DOJ have got some of FT's money haven't they?  I'm a little confused by the whole thing, is any of those accounts player's money?  And if PS pay off all of the player's accounts, who owns this money?

  • edited April 2012
    Its kind of pointless asking if the money the DOJ seized was player money or company money, when at this point its clear that the company themselves did not view these as seperate entities.
  • edited April 2012
    In Response to Re: Many Rivers To Cross. A Diary.:
    Its kind of pointless asking if the money the DOJ seized was player money or company money, when at this point its clear that the company themselves did not view these as seperate entities.
    Posted by LadyFingrs
    True.  Just don't want this money to disappear into the ether of the US Government, then again it's probably too late for that now.  If PS pay off the players in full then I guess everyone is happy.  PS suits avoid jail, the players have their money back and Uncle Sam gets a brand new Plasma TV.
  • edited April 2012
    We have't had a hand for a while.  What do you guys think of this hand taken from the MC tables?  Playing too fast?  Villain started table with 50BB, felt I could get them off a marginal hand.

    Preflop was obvious squeeze.
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    launder Small blind  £1.00 £1.00 £297.00
    TommyD Big blind  £2.00 £3.00 £395.20
     Your hole cards
    • 6
    • 3
       
    style2737 Fold     
    windham01 Raise  £4.00 £7.00 £252.10
    ALBANIAN Call  £4.00 £11.00 £413.70
    laucal Call  £4.00 £15.00 £391.00
    launder Fold     
    TommyD Raise  £18.00 £33.00 £377.20
    windham01 Call  £16.00 £49.00 £236.10
    ALBANIAN Fold     
    laucal Fold     
    Flop
      
    • 4
    • 5
    • 10
       
    TommyD Bet  £36.00 £85.00 £341.20
    windham01 Call  £36.00 £121.00 £200.10
    Turn
      
    • 8
       
    TommyD All-in  £341.20 £462.20 £0.00
    windham01 All-in  £200.10 £662.30 £0.00
    TommyD Unmatched bet  £141.10 £521.20 £141.10
    TommyD Show
    • 6
    • 3
       
    windham01 Show
    • 8
    • A
       
    River
      
    • A
       
    windham01 Win Two Pairs, Aces and 8s £519.40
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