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Will be good2meet u2moro aswell.
Re: cash - I've played once @ DTD during one of the grand prix's they held & they opened a couple of 25/50p tables (don't know if they will do this again) - but standard on those was super soft, even I made a profit!.
But yeah was just put off when Tommy said cash action at casinos is alot easier than at DTD and if that's enough to put off someone of his standard, then it doesn't sound like great news for me lol. But if they got 25p/50p going, I might give it a go, if I aint busy winning tonight's side event
You are probably aware of the 'Sit and Go Champ' promo SkyPoker are running this week. If not, check the homepage. Another thread was started to say how only high stakes players would get into the final. If you want to know the full details check out the thread started by Chille.
Long story short I'm trying to get into the final by playing DYMs no bigger than £11. I think it's possible with a big dollop of gumption. Nearly everyone else has said it's not. So nose cut off, face spited, I'm well into it. Having completed in a few days more DYMs than I normally do in a month the strain is present but I'm finally starting to get some real volume in.
Why am I doing this? Well firstly I'm quite silly. Let's face facts at my usual level I was pretty much one of the favourites to get into the final. I'm potentially giving away a chance at a chunk of money and some much needed TV time to prove a point. The thing about the point is I don't mind who's point I prove. If I get in then everyone in that thread would have to admit it was doable, because it was done. If I don't make it but hit my target of 1.2k-1.5k games played then I'll freely admit I was wrong and depending on who gets in the final and if they have ground say 1k+ games, the final wasn't accessible by all.
We will see. Happy grinding.
I'm impressed that you have dropped down to the lower stakes games to see if the challenge can be achieved from there.
As you said it would have been a reasonably comfortable passage for you if you had continued at your regular stakes.
I hope you get there as you deserve to with the volume you have been putting in over the last few days.
Welcome to the diary. Dropping down to the stakes I played coming up has been somewhat interesting in a multitude of ways. Mainly in giving me different kinds of problems to solve I haven't seen for a good long while.
DYMs are a completely different strategy from any other form of poker. Doing my best but doubt I'll make it. Which is shame. For me mainly, not anyone else.
A variety of real life stuff has formed an obstacle as well. I would have continued on stubbornly all through the weekend if it was for not the last one. I found out today a good friend of mine has just broken up with his partner. When I say just broken up it apparently happened a couple of weeks ago but they've been keeping it a bit hush hush, the news filtering through different friends one at a time. I noticed something was up the other day when I was trying to plan a golf day with some mutual friends and when I mentioned his name to another mate they gave a bigger tell than I have ever seen that they knew something. So like I said I found out today, gave my friend a shout and I'll be taking him out for a few drinks tomorrow night. I really feel for both him and his partner who I like as well. They've got a house together, which would be a headache enough, but they also have a one year old together. A house, joint account, shared car etc which while is a pain in the neck to sort out and leads to all sorts of arguments is a finite issue when resolved means you never have to lay eyes on each other again. A kid, well, you're in each other's life for keeps. Or at least you should be.
The above in mind I'm pretty much giving up on the challenge, those aren't excuses for me not making it, I didn't put in enough grind but it seems quite clear the amount of grind needed is astronomical. I admit I was wrong. I've played around 500 DYMs, got around 3.5k points. From what I hear some high stakers are knocking that out in a couple of days. I'll probably have a little spurt again tomorrow morning and Sunday just in case but it's pretty academic. I won't be returning to the high stakes until after the challenge is over, rules is still rules and the last thing I want is to look like I'm trying to put a last minute rush in up there.
Good luck with the dym challenge.As a regular on the £5 dyms just one question, will you stop playing this level when the promotion is finished (to give me a chance). Its been a pleasure trying to play with such a good player as yourself I can only improve playing better players.Quick question at my level (recently went from 3 to 5dyms how steep is the quality of player from 5 to 11dyms.Any help or advice will be greatly received.
Thanks
Pat (day4eire76)
Your last post was put up when I was writing mine.Sorry to hear about your friends.
Not a huge difference from 5 to 11. I think there are more people looking to go flipping in the 11ers, an obvious no no if you can avoid it. There seems to be more 'donk betting' in the 11ers as well. Wasn't like that in my day, I'm still adjusting to it. Less limping at 11 but seems to be still prevalent. I think providing you have both the bankroll and the mental attitude to deal with the increase sting of a swing I think you'll be fine, you seemed to me to be decent enough. At 11, as at 5.50, there is still a vast proportion of players without a working knowledge of gap theory or ICM. In standard SnGs this would be great, however with the flat pay structure of a DYM it's not great to be constantly involved in 60/40 spots, especially with the 10% rake taking a chunk.
Cheers for the kind words, I don't think I've played great at the lower stakes. I still haven't adjusted my shove and call ranges correctly. I'm fairly close but a few leaks keep jumping in. I also need to adjust to the fact I seem to get called a lot more than any other player at these levels. TBF if feels the same higher up. It may be a perception thing, or an exaggerated perception of a small quirk, but as much as I try to avoid the final hand on the bubble, gosh darn if it doesn't feel like I'm in the vast majority, mainly as the shover rather than the caller. And of course you want to not be in that hand as much as possible. I seem to be magnetised to it at the moment.
It does put things in perspective. I freely admit I couldn't complete the challenge even without this but no way will I be grinding low stakes DYMs for a pointless reason while a mate is in this sort of spot. Just gutted I didn't hear earlier, he did give us a text if I wanted to go for a beer the other day but I rainchecked it because of this ridic challenge which, in the grand scheme of things, means less than nothing. Feel a bit guilty now, shouldn't as I didn't know, but still do.
Maybe at my level the £5 dyms.I don't think (happily) that many people are aware of ICM or gap theory.Most are happy to go with their gut feeling.I think that image at my level me (a nit)(lol) and yours (high roller) maybe worked against you.Weekend nights for sure when players will fold to me hopefully will call you just to say they beat tommyd.Run well Tommy and thanks again for the reply.
Pat
So the GF turns around yesterday and says to me 'Can I have £20 please?' Notice we've transferred from the part of the relationship when you say can I borrow twenty quid where both parties silently acknowledge that the money is not expected to be repaid. It's been so long the charade has been dispensed with.
I of course say yes and pass over the funds. As she leaves she tells me why she's skint till payday, she done all of her money on a Nike Fuel band. Now this presents two problems for me. Firstly, the economic sense that you don't buy a luxury item if it leaves you without funds for day to day stuff. Second, I've ordered her that blooming band because she hasn't stopped going on about it and now I have to return it.
Marv.
Poker stuff, cut the volume right down this weekend after doing myself in with the SnGs. I know I haven't made the SnG champ final, just couldn't put in the required volume at the low stakes, however the required volume was probably so huge that only Elky powered by an endless supply of coffee could have made it. Played the Sky big MTTs yesterday, got to around 30 BBs in the Primo a couple hours in and decided to play a draw aggressively, missed. Had a pot to be chip leader or busto in the £110 BHer again a couple hours in, we got it in on the turn and I couldn't fade the outs. TBF there were 13 of them. No real regrets, such is tournaments. Going to try to pick up the volume this week and return to both high stakes DYMs and my first love, the old cash tables. I feel like I've cheated on them last week. Please don't be angry cash tables, I was thinking of you the whole time....
I made a very small win on the SnGs. I was up a couple of hundred near the end but completely down swong and tilted much of it away in the last couple of sessions. I never fully adjusted my ranges, I believe I was close towards the end but I was never completely happy with my shove/call ranges four handed. Plus frankly I was getting called and shoved on a lot more than other people. I'd reship and people would be happy putting their SnG on the line with Q9s etc, generally always a 40/60 for them. I have no idea if I was running + or 1 EV in these but DYMs is the one form of poker where you're generally happy to fold out worse preflop that's not a dominated worst. 6 max DYMs with 5 min blinds and 10%+ rake is just so tough to consistently beat, the edge really is diminished. You have to be playing A+ to really kick on.
Here's my fully break down of the week, I think the 60p ones were my level:
No offense taken, I hold my hands up and confess I wasn't playing my A game and you need to be to make serious dough there. I think some mental flaws are creeping into my game, they are really starting to show themselves firstly at live and now at online poker. I finally got 'The Mental Game' by Tendler and Carter so I'll be reading that this week. A load of people have raved about it so it's definitely worth a go. I don't monkey tilt but the bitter pill of repeated unexpected virtual punches to the gut, exacerbated by now 12 tabling and as such having these come in with more intensity, was affecting my later play. Need to cut that right out.
Enjoy your posts fella. Hope you didn't mind me using you as an example to someone in one of my posts(that's got you guessing hasn't it?)
TY for printing your results of the DYM's. A brave effort and like the saying goes, "if you don't try, you'll never know". I'm sure SKY will realise the annoyance lower volume players had with the promo and the idea of a CHAMP emerging. SKY is a business and a term was needed to attract attention. CHAMP fitted the bill. I've played DYMs and been pleased to keep a +ve ROI. It's true an A game is needed. Maybe you got your AI's V TommyD (n"nice to get a scalp" etc). Enjoying deep stacks more now since joining DTD and Woogie's pm league. Good fun and banter. Don't play cash but do want to improve my heads up game. Have you come across a good site for articles on poker in general,Tommy?
The Jared Tendhler book is great...i find myself going back to it especially after a bad night DYMing!
By the way, i'm an ex maths teacher(20 odd years) and noticed you're having time off. Did you get a sabbatical for a year's course or something. Hope it's not something bad fella.
PS That 'give me £20"....hide the money in your shoe fella...and put your arms out in a "i'm skint" pose. It may work occasionally but may be follwed by a strip search! (could be fun though!)
Nice one for attempting it Tommy and it's not like you did terribly. It was always going to be hard especially if you're only just getting used to 12-tabling, but it was a valiant effort.
I already knew this, but for others it just shows where a vast amount of the profit comes with DYM grinders.... from my workings you made £39 in profit, but earned 3452 poker points which is £48.
Hi Lambert ...if you can work that out then you HAVE got too much time on your hands mate! ha
there is bowling right opposite dtd.. but also there is american pool!!!
legggggggoooooooo!