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Get in the Hole! 2017 Season!

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  • edited July 2015
    I am not betting on the golf this week in order for Neil to make a profit!

    If I was picking I'd go Jaidee and Bowditch.
  • edited July 2015
    Busy week at the office this week, so no time to waffle on about who I'm backing and why.

    For reasons known to me I'm on the following:

    Open De France

    Bernd Wiesberger - 33/1, Also 35/1 for FRL, based on past history where Bernd seems to compete here for three rounds and then has a final round mare.

    Brendan Steele - 33/1

    Kristoffer Broberg - 66/1


    Greenbrier

    Seung Yul Noh - 70/1

    Chris Stroud - 66/1

    Patrick Rodgers - 66/1


    Oh and might as well confess, I've had ew singles and double on Mr. Willett and Mr. Delaet t 28/1 and 33/1 respectively, not some much strong fancies for the week, but favorites of mine I like to see do well.


  • edited July 2015
    Been busy this week having a birthday and playing golf myself at Celtic Manor so had little time to study. Going with the patent again until I feel more into it and can put more time in

    Jaidee
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    J.B Holmes
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    Bernd Rithammer
  • edited July 2015
    In Response to Re: Get in the Hole! 2015 Season! (Greenbrier + Open de France):
    Busy week at the office this week, so no time to waffle on about who I'm backing and why. For reasons known to me I'm on the following: Open De France Bernd Wiesberger - 33/1, Also 35/1 for FRL, based on past history where Bernd seems to compete here for three rounds and then has a final round mare. Brendan Steele - 33/1 Kristoffer Broberg - 66/1 Greenbrier Seung Yul Noh - 70/1 Chris Stroud - 66/1 Patrick Rodgers - 66/1 Oh and might as well confess, I've had ew singles and double on Mr. Willett and Mr. Delaet t 28/1 and 33/1 respectively, not some much strong fancies for the week, but favorites of mine I like to see do well.
    Posted by TheDart
    Well done.
  • edited July 2015
    A bit late, apologies for that.... But a big congrats to our resident Dart Man. 
  • edited July 2015
    Thank you Achill and Joesman1.

    With Bernd Wiesberger tying for the lead on day 1, it already meant a decent profit for the week, so the outright win was really one of those icing on the cake situations.

    With little to no course form in Scotland this week, Jordan Spieth a hot favorite at the John Deere and it being a week before The Open it looks like a tough challenge to find a winner or place this week.

    Good Luck everyone.
  • edited July 2015
    Well done Darty. Hit the bullseye there didn't you 

    No betting for me now for a week or so. Need to get out of this downswing in all things gambling related! Going to sit back, read the Chris Moorman book that I didn't finish and come back a new energised Flasher ;-)
  • edited July 2015
    In Europe this week it's just the two picks, and both quite easy choices for me. Firstly, perennial good links player Brandan Grace ew @ 22/1, and Byeong Un An ew @ 50/1.

    Edit:- I've added Fitzpatrick ew @ 100/1. Persuaded by his course form in Open qualifying 2 years ago, and The Racing Post fancying him. 

    In the USA, it's my fav regular tournie of the season, The John Deere. It's the easiest event to predict. Most of the big guns are already in Europe, and as a result, in his pomp, Stricker used to gauge on this event. Then Zach Johnson joined the party, and started to dominate it. Two years ago, a young upstart called Spieth spoiled the fun by chipping in from a green-side bunker on the 72nd hole, (he then beat my man Zach and Hearn in the play-off) whatever happened to him?? 

    Spieth would have defended last year but for a very slow start, and I was going to go big on him this week, I'd made my mind up from The Masters onwards. But him winning the U.S. Open has muddied the waters. He now has 'The Slam' on his mind, and Rory's carry on will only have intensified this. Sooooo I'm going against my own judgement. Hoping that it's a bet to nothing in that he will place at least, I'm going big on Zach Johnson ew @ 9/1. 

    Gl all 
  • edited July 2015
    Scottish Open

    Shane Lowry - 28/1,
    very impressive tied 9th in the US Open, taken the last 2 weeks off, should be ready for a big 2 weeks, excellent links game, even at 28/1 feels like decent ew value.

    Victor Dubuisson - 50/1, coming off his first consecutive top 20's of the season, ok didn't come away with much credit on the final day of the Open de France, but looks to be coming into form nicely. Neil will be hoping he is coming into form nicely for next week, with such a strong short game, I'll mischievously suggest Victor could just peak with a victory this week.

    Tyrell Hatton - 66/1, Mark Warren - 66/1, not a particular fan of either, but can see them both having a good week, I couldn't decide which player I 'liked' most, so ended up backing both.

    Thomas Aitken - 110/1, bit of a gut feeling here, he's played a light schedule so far, but sits a healthy 43rd in the R2D rankings. Aitken has links form and looks too big at 3 figures.
  • edited July 2015

    John Deere

    Unlike  Neil, I don't particularly like this event, probably as I have a knack for ignoring the obvious and pass over players like Spieth, Johnson, Stricker and even Kisner.

    Ryan Moore - 25/1, loads of good course form, but not a past winner, which I guess is why he can be backed at a decent ew price of 25/1.

    Patrick Rodgers - 80/1, in a weak field and at 80/1 I figured he's worth another chance as he finds his feet on tour.

    Harris English - 40/1, if the course specialists don't perform, English is the type of player in this field that could take advantage.

    David Hearn - 66/1, lost in a playoff last week and lost here is a playoff in 2013 to that Spieth bloke.

    Justin Thomas - 33/1, I didn't see much of the PGA golf last week, but I did see the last couple of hours on Sunday and the mess Thomas made of his last round, you could see he was seething at the end, young enough and fearless enough to quickly get over the disappointment and go again.

  • edited July 2015
    In Response to Re: Get in the Hole! 2015 Season! (Greenbrier + Open de France):
    In Europe this week it's just the two picks, and both quite easy choices for me. Firstly, perennial good links player Brandan Grace ew @ 22/1, and Byeong Un An ew @ 50/1. Edit:- I've added Fitzpatrick ew @ 100/1. Persuaded by his course form in Open qualifying 2 years ago, and The Racing Post fancying him.  In the USA, it's my fav regular tournie of the season, The John Deere. It's the easiest event to predict. Most of the big guns are already in Europe, and as a result, in his pomp, Stricker used to gauge on this event. Then Zach Johnson joined the party, and started to dominate it. Two years ago, a young upstart called Spieth spoiled the fun by chipping in from a green-side bunker on the 72nd hole, (he then beat my man Zach and Hearn in the play-off) whatever happened to him??  Spieth would have defended last year but for a very slow start, and I was going to go big on him this week, I'd made my mind up from The Masters onwards. But him winning the U.S. Open has muddied the waters. He now has 'The Slam' on his mind, and Rory's carry on will only have intensified this. Sooooo I'm going against my own judgement. Hoping that it's a bet to nothing in that he will place at least, I'm going big on Zach Johnson ew @ 9/1.  Gl all 
    Posted by joesman1
    After day 1 this looks like a very good decision, very impressive since I know you had been building up to a big bet on Spieth this week.

    Good luck with Zach Jonson, I hope he gets a place for you ;)
  • edited July 2015
    In Response to Re: Get in the Hole! 2015 Season! (Greenbrier + Open de France):
    In Response to Re: Get in the Hole! 2015 Season! (Greenbrier + Open de France) : After day 1 this looks like a very good decision, very impressive since I know you had been building up to a big bet on Spieth this week. Good luck with Zach Jonson, I hope he gets a place for you ;)
    Posted by TheDart
    Speith played like he has a flight booked on Saturday.

    Went with Stricker & Zach Johnson & both are well placed.
  • edited July 2015
    In Response to Re: Get in the Hole! 2015 Season! (Greenbrier + Open de France):
    In Response to Re: Get in the Hole! 2015 Season! (Greenbrier + Open de France) : Speith played like he has a flight booked on Saturday. Went with Stricker & Zach Johnson & both are well placed.
    Posted by Ice_Tiger
    You see this is why I'm always wary of making comment until the last putt on the 72nd hole has been made.

    We all thought the same on Thursday night and then Jordan Spieth incredibly goes and shoots 17 under par over the next 2 days.

    How good is this guy?
  • edited July 2015
    In Response to Re: Get in the Hole! 2015 Season! (Greenbrier + Open de France):
    In Response to Re: Get in the Hole! 2015 Season! (Greenbrier + Open de France) : You see this is why I'm always wary of making comment until the last putt on the 72nd hole has been made. We all thought the same on Thursday night and then Jordan Spieth incredibly goes and shoots 17 under par over the next 2 days. How good is this guy?
    Posted by TheDart

    Amazing play by Speith.

    I had him as likely winner but didn't back him. Hopefully Zach Johnson can do the business.

    Relying on Dubuisson & Fleetwood in the Scottish today.

    Already backed Speith, Oosterhuizen & Fleetwood for The Open
  • edited July 2015
    Just a very big SIGH.... As Mr Dart knows, I've been planning a very big bet on Spieth for this event since The Masters, well tbh, even before then. This course is made for his game, and it's always a weak field. Just having had 3-4 losing weeks on the trot, him 1/2 way to the Grand Slam, and knowing I'll be struggling to watch it all, made me not go through with my plan. What a t@at!!!!

    Edit:- just seen Darty's post and Ice-Tigers response. Too much sun and sangria. 
  • edited July 2015
    Forgot to post this.

    2015 John Deere Classic Jordan Spieth 7/2 Stake £10.00 Pot Rtn £45.00


    Be lucky.

    Edit. that's come out a bit odd but hopefully you get the picture

  • edited July 2015
    In Response to Re: Get in the Hole! 2015 Season! (John Deere + Scottish Open):
    Forgot to post this. 2015 John Deere Classic Jordan Spieth 7/2 Stake £10.00 Pot Rtn £45.00 Be lucky. Edit. that's come out a bit odd but hopefully you get the picture
    Posted by achill
    Yes go the picture :)

    Well done Achill
  • edited July 2015
    THE OPEN

    Three days to go and it can't come quickly enough for me.

    I will be doing some up to date research and theorizing over the next couple of days to come up with a current pick or two, but for now, my ante post bets have been:


    Danny Willett - 200/1, never mind what a win would mean to Danny Willett, a win for Willett would give me the biggest win of my life. I kept taking the 200/1 until the bookies told me I was being selfish and greedy and couldn't have any more.

    Top quality links player, runner up in Dunhill Links, with very good form around St Andrews, having a great season, I will be having savers on Willett for a top 10 and top 20 finish and maybe even top English, GB and Ireland or European.

    Branden Grace - 150/1, I took the 150/1 in January. Thanks to his exploits at Chamber Bay the price now looks very good indeed. Proven links player who has won the Dunhill Links.

    Martin Kaymer - 40/1, I backed Kaymer once at 40/1 in January, at the time I was of the mind that the price wouldn't be around for long, but a poor few months, meant he was pretty friendless in the ante post markets. Glimpses of form recently has seen some interest in Kaymer, especially as he has some excellent from at St Andrews. Still available at 40/1.

    Victor Dubuission - 66/1, 80/1, hmm, when I was thinking Willett, Grace and Kaymer, the forums number one tipster was shouting Victor for reasons I couldn't disagree with, so with Flash also jumping on board, I decided to join the Victor club. Found a bit of form just in time, though on yesterdays performance, he is going to have to keep his temperament under control if he is going to challenge this week.

    Graeme Mcdowell - 125/1, I've shown great resolve and left GMac alone for a while, going on his form this year that's not been too hard to do.

    But a promising first two days at the Scottish Open, challenged my weakness for GMac and seeing as this resemblance of form coincided with Sky offering 7 places, I just had to add GMac to the plan.


    Good Luck All
  • edited July 2015
    Nice price on Grace Dart - Can,t get better than 50,s now so left him out for now - Still fancy Justin Rose but hoping Coral will do the £10 FB in play when you place £10 pre -tourney 

    These are my picks for now (mainly copied off here as i,ve not watched much golf recently)

    2015 Open Championship - Winner

    Placed (matched)Order by Matched Date

    Back (Bet For)OddsStakeProfit
    Tommy Fleetwood90£2.50
    £222.50
     
    Victor Dubuisson90£2.50
    £222.50
     
    Graeme McDowell160£2.50
    £397.50
     
    Danny Willett140£2.50
    £347.50
  • edited July 2015
    Jordan Speith 15/2 - jumped on the moment I heard of rumours of Rory's injury. He is the class horse in the field & also the form horse. The question marks are that he won't get much on course preparation but he showed his links ability at the US Open.

    Louis Oosterhuizen 28/1 - again I backed him pre the Rory withdrawal. He won the last time the Open was held on this course, winning by seven shots. He showed that he is coming into form again at the US Open, finishing Tied 2nd, despite a terrible first round.

    Tommy Fleetwood 80/1 - he was brought up on the Lancashire links courses so is a perfect long shot here. He has been showing well for the last couple of months and I feel a Top Ten finish is possible, particularly if the weather gets rough.

    Shane Lowry 40/1 - you always seem to get a run with this guy. Brought up on Irish links courses, he is another that will give greater value the worse the weather. He Tied 37th in his first Open on this course. He Tied 9th in last year's Open & Tied 9th at this year's US Open. Should be thereabouts on the final day.

    Danny Lee 150/1 - think he is good value at 150/1. Won his first PGA event two weeks ago at the Greenbrier Classic after a four way playoff. He impressed again at the John Deere Clasic, finishing Tied third & would have made the playoff but for picking his ball up on the fairway in round three.


    Probably will have more bets nearer the start.
  • edited July 2015
    Flicked a small bet on Ernie Els at 150/1 as well. Why not?
  • edited July 2015
    Have backed Graham Delaet first round leader.

    Out early and hills offering 125/1.

    £2.50 e/w

    Be lucky.
  • edited July 2015
    In Response to Re: Get in the Hole! 2015 Season! (John Deere + Scottish Open):
    Have backed Graham Delaet first round leader. Out early and hills offering 125/1. £2.50 e/w Be lucky.
    Posted by achill
    Naturally I couldn't resist this either.

    Not sure a windy week will suit his game, but he certainly has the power to shoot low round here.

    Good draw, going off in the third group on Thursday morning when conditions are forecast to me their most benign.

    One slight problem.................

    Aer Lingus have lost his golf clubs :(
  • edited July 2015
    Well after some up to date research, my portfolio is taking shape with the additions of:


    Brandt Snedeker - 45/1, ticks a lot of the appropriate boxes this week.

    Bernd Wiesberger - 90/1, his win in France two weeks ago was very impressive, as has his overall form this year.

    Went out in the last group on Sunday of the PGA Championship last year, his Open record is not so hot, but he has played well around St Andrews in the Dunhill Links. Went on record as saying he likes St Andrews and thinks his game suits the course.

    Won the Ballentines Championship in 2012 which is a renowned windy venue, his results, recent history and current form remind me very much of the position Graeme Mcdowell was in coming into the 2010 US Open at Pebble Beach.
  • edited July 2015

    Just recovered from the weekends disappointment. Note to ones self...... If u spout off about something, at least follow your shi@e through!!!

     

    So to this weeks entertainment:-

     

    I'm backing 4 golfers this week, based on a mixture of current form, major form, links form, and course form. The Fab Four are:-

    Kaymer (major, current, course form) ante post 50/1 top 6 (I think), topped up at 35/1, top 7

    Victor (slight current, course form) 80/1, top 6. And in my major lucky 15 @ 66/1, top 5. Also FRL ew 55/1

    Grace (recent major, course, links form) 45/1, top 6

    An (recent major ish - Wentworth, and ok links form) 100/1, top 7. Also FRL ew 80/1

     

    I'm having one special bet, it's Blubba in the top USA market. 16/1 ew (1/4 odds top 4), cracking value imo.

     

    Gl everyone.

  • edited July 2015
    Just read the Betfair guide to The Open.

    I like it because it backs two of my bets.

    Oosterhuizen - not just the most recent Open winner at St Andrews but shot equal best in the Alfred Dunhill St Andrews rounds in 2014 at -14 for two rounds.

    Fleetwood - also equal best in Alfred Dunhill for St Andrews rounds at -14 plus -12 in 2013. That is a combined 26 under par for his last four rounds on the course. That is round totals of 65-67-62-68. Reckon that will be enough to win come Sunday.

    Some other interesting facts:

    Only Jack Nicholas has ever won at St Andrews on The Open when more than two shots off the lead after the first round.

    Oosterhuizen is the only St Andrews winner since 1964 not to be a multiple major winner.

    St Andrews has 14 par four holes, the most on The Open courses

    The last five Open winners all played the Scottish Open the week before The Open.

    Only one winner in the last 24 years (Todd Hamilton) played in the States the week before The Open.

    Three of the last four winners of The Open were in their 40s.

    Only Ben Curtis has won The Open on debut since the 1970s.

    This century, 12 of the 15 winners have played at least six previous Open Championships AND finished at least once previously in the Top Six.


    So we are looking for a 40+ player who has gone close previously, is a multiple major winner, who is great on links courses , can get off to a flying start and played at the Scottish Open last week.
  • edited July 2015
    Gone with a couple of early birds in the FRL market.

    Pampling and Knox. 

    Pampling came into my thoughts a couple of days ago, no idea why. Now he's off in first group, I have to back him in that market 300/1. Knox is 125/1

    As for overall, I really can't see past Oostheisen, but at 22/1, I'm not sure that's good enough value, so I've gone for another of my predicatbly poor gut feelings with Lingmerth at 250/1

    I may yet stab a couple of quid e/w on Pampling at 750/1...
  • edited July 2015
    In Response to Re: Get in the Hole! 2015 Season! (John Deere + Scottish Open):
    Just read the Betfair guide to The Open. I like it because it backs two of my bets. Oosterhuizen - not just the most recent Open winner at St Andrews but shot equal best in the Alfred Dunhill St Andrews rounds in 2014 at -14 for two rounds. Fleetwood - also equal best in Alfred Dunhill for St Andrews rounds at -14 plus -12 in 2013. That is a combined 26 under par for his last four rounds on the course. That is round totals of 65-67-62-68. Reckon that will be enough to win come Sunday. Some other interesting facts: Only Jack Nicholas has ever won at St Andrews on The Open when more than two shots off the lead after the first round. Oosterhuizen is the only St Andrews winner since 1964 not to be a multiple major winner. St Andrews has 14 par four holes, the most on The Open courses The last five Open winners all played the Scottish Open the week before The Open. Only one winner in the last 24 years (Todd Hamilton) played in the States the week before The Open. Three of the last four winners of The Open were in their 40s. Only Ben Curtis has won The Open on debut since the 1970s. This century, 12 of the 15 winners have played at least six previous Open Championships AND finished at least once previously in the Top Six. So we are looking for a 40+ player who has gone close previously, is a multiple major winner, who is great on links courses , can get off to a flying start and played at the Scottish Open last week.
    Posted by Ice
    _Tiger

    Very interesting Mr Tiger.... I might be wrong, but the only one who springs to mind that ticks all those boxes is.... Phil The Thrill???

  • edited July 2015
    In Response to Re: Get in the Hole! 2015 Season! (John Deere + Scottish Open):
    In Response to Re: Get in the Hole! 2015 Season! (John Deere + Scottish Open) : Very interesting Mr Tiger.... I might be wrong, but the only one who springs to mind that ticks all those boxes is.... Phil The Thrill???
    Posted by joesman1
    Taking it literally, you could also add, Paul Lawrie, Padraig Harrington and erm, Sandy Lyle?
  • edited July 2015
    In Response to Re: Get in the Hole! 2015 Season! (John Deere + Scottish Open):
    In Response to Re: Get in the Hole! 2015 Season! (John Deere + Scottish Open) : Taking it literally, you could also add, Paul Lawrie, Padraig Harrington and erm, Sandy Lyle?
    Posted by TheDart
    I'll let u have Padraig Mr Meakin IF he played last week.... I'm afraid the other two are a nil point to your goodself.... MULTIPLE major winner?? 200 lines young man!!! 
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