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Get in the Hole! 2017 Season!

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  • edited March 2015
    Thx to Joesman and WD for the DJ tip . I did make a bit of a crazy lay off on the 1st day but finished between £130-£140 in profit for the tournament and also pleased for DJ to see him win after his recent problems
  • edited March 2015
    In Response to Re: Get in the Hole! 2015 Season! (Puerto Rico, Africa open + WGC):
    Thx to Joesman and WD for the DJ tip . I did make a bit of a crazy lay off on the 1st day but finished between £130-£140 in profit for the tournament and also pleased for DJ to see him win after his recent problems
    Posted by MP33
    Happy to oblige Mr MP. Let's be honest, if DJ had had his putting boots on, it wouldn't have been a sweat. 
  • edited March 2015
    In Response to Re: Get in the Hole! 2015 Season! (Puerto Rico, Africa open + WGC):
    Just had an extra fiver on oostenhouizen at 21/1 - That wind looks a bit scary and hes only 1 from home EDIT - Gonna have to remember this course for nxt year - just couldnt see a short hitter having any chance at all
    Posted by MP33
    Horses for courses is one of the most important factors in picking selections for any tournament, but here more so than most. 
  • edited March 2015
    WD DJ backers.

    This week... 

    Tshwane Open

    Richard Sterne - 28/1 - Simply because he is from Pretoria, so I think of the short prices he is best value.

    Mikko Korhonen - 80/1 - Someone I've backed before, and he is showing some good form.

    Shaun Norris - 250/1 - Affiliated club is only 20 minutes from Pretoria CC and he had an 8th at the Alfred Dunhill a few months back. (Decided I'd bet double my usual bet on him as well for an extremely unlikely big win)

    Adilson Da Silva - 80/1 (Last time I pick him if he messes up again. Back in 2010/11 he was the best around on this course on the sunshine tour).

    Valspar

    Luke Donald - 25/1 - Showing some form again and has a great history on this course.

    Justin Rose - 28/1 - Some good course form and due to poor form his price is longer than usual.
  • edited March 2015
    Good work guys.
  • edited March 2015
    Well, I'm having a decent time with the in running markets at the moment, but not getting over the line with pre event picks.

    Tshwane Open

    New venue for the Tshwane Open, but has been used regularly on the Sunshine Tour, so there's some course form to be found and from that I've had a bash at building photofit of the type of player that could win this.

    Tight course, tree lined, but a short course by todays standards, means I think we are looking for 'ball strikers' and tee to green specialists.

    Last weeks runner up Matt Ford fits the profile, but I wonder if last weeks exploits will have taken too much out of him.
     
    Its always good to go local in these events, especially as its likely most of the foreigners will be seeing the course for the first time but for now I'm backing two foreigners that fit the potential profile of a winner:


    Adrian Otaegui - 2 points ew 66/1, I'm not too bothered by the missed cut last week as young players seem to have the knack of bouncing back sooner rather than later. Before the missed cut he'd put a nice run of 25th, 12th and 10th.

    The 12th place was at the tight Delhi GC, he's ranked highly on the driving accuracy and GIR stats and represents good ew value at 66/1.

    John Parry - 2 points ew 90/1, finished 6th last week without really being in contention, so shouldn't be feeling any fatigue on the mental side. That was his best finish for around 18 months, he's been playing well for the last few months, since regaining his card at the tour school. Has the ability and game to plot his way around this type of course.



    Valspar Championship

    Lots of course form, with clear evidence that course form is important with multiple winners and the same players and types of players popping up on the leaderboards each year.

    Kevin Na - 2 points ew 55/1, he was 2nd here last year but I like the fact that Kevin Na finished 8th here back in 2008, when he wasn't actually that good. He's come along way since then and last weeks  under the radar tied 9th at the WGC is also ticking a good box.

    Harish English - 2 points ew 40/1, got blown away in Florida 2 weeks ago, but showed plenty of form before then to suggest he is ready to win again. Tied 7th here in 2013.
  • edited March 2015
    In Response to Re: Get in the Hole! 2015 Season! (Valspar Championship + Tshwane Open):
    Well, I'm having a decent time with the in running markets at the moment, but not getting over the line with pre event picks. Tshwane Open New venue for the Tshwane Open, but has been used regularly on the Sunshine Tour, so there's some course form to be found and from that I've had a bash at building photofit of the type of player that could win this. Tight course, tree lined, but a short course by todays standards, means I think we are looking for 'ball strikers' and tee to green specialists. Last weeks runner up Matt Ford fits the profile, but I wonder if last weeks exploits will have taken too much out of him.   Its always good to go local in these events, especially as its likely most of the foreigners will be seeing the course for the first time bu,t for now I'm backing two foreigners that fit the potential profile of a winner: Adrian Otaegui - 2 points ew 66/1, I'm not too bothered by the missed cut last week as young players seem to have the knack of bouncing back sooner rather than later. Before the missed cut he'd put a nice run of 25th, 12th and 10th. The 12th place was at the tight Delhi GC, he's ranked highly on the driving accuracy and GIR stats and represents good ew value at 66/1. John Parry - 2 points ew 90/1, finished 6th last week without really being in contention, so shouldn't be feeling any fatigue on the mental side. That was his best finish for around 18 months, he's been playing well for the last few months, since regaining his card at the tour school. Has the ability and game to plot his way around this type of course. Valspar Championship Lots of course form, with clear evidence that course form is important with multiple winners and the same players and types of players popping up on the leaderboards each year. Kevin Na - 2 points ew 55/1, he was 2nd here last year but I like the fact that Kevin Na finished 8th here back in 2008, when he wasn't actually that good. He's come along way since then and last weeks  under the radar tied 9th at the WGC is also ticking a good box. Harish English - 2 points ew 40/1, got blown away in Florida 2 weeks ago, but showed plenty of form before then to suggest he is ready to win again. Tied 7th here in 2013.
    Posted by TheDart

    Ffs man, I've just spent 1/2 an hour going through past winners and contenders. And was about to come on to say from the sublime to the ridiculous this week in that this is a massively long course suiting sluggers. Then I was going to crow about getting 110/1 for a previous winner Dawie Van Der Walt. Who did quite well on the Desert Swing, and hopefully had got his eye in during the past two weeks. Too late I've backed him now, but I'm off back to my drawing board for my other pick(s). 
  • edited March 2015
    In Response to Re: Get in the Hole! 2015 Season! (Valspar Championship + Tshwane Open):
    In Response to Re: Get in the Hole! 2015 Season! (Valspar Championship + Tshwane Open) : Ffs man, I've just spent 1/2 an hour going through past winners and contenders. And was about to come on to say from the sublime to the ridiculous this week in that this is a massively long course suiting sluggers. Then I was going to crow about getting 110/1 for a previous winner Dawie Van Der Walt. Who did quite well on the Desert Swing, and hopefully had got his eye in during the past two weeks. Too late I've backed him now, but I'm off back to my drawing board for my other pick(s). 
    Posted by joesman1
    Could have been worse you could have spent half an hour studying and ended up backing the same as me :)

    Just because the course is shorter doesn't mean we should ignore bombers, so good luck with Van Der Walt, though you are going to get some serious ribbing if he does win, based on your flawed selection criteria this week ;)

  • edited March 2015
    Going against the tips so far for this one 

    Just kuchar hasn,t been up there much in recent weeks but has put some good rounds togethor and just think i,ll get my moneys worth with him while watching. And i think when he does eventually get a win a lot of ppl will say to themselves - why wasn,t i on him - Theres no-one more due for a win than him so obv better odds as well. I,ve been slightly comprimised on price as its a free bet so had to take betfair sportsbook price


    £5 WIN  25/1

    Valspar Championship
    Matt Kuchar - Outright Winner
    Betfair Bet ID O/0111832/0000067
  • edited March 2015
    So I'm on Dawie Van Der Walt ew 110/1... Now having looked at the correct course, it's very much as u were with last weeks. With that in mind, and going back to back in Africa not unknown (Grace) I'm gonna put Fisher JR in the mix ew 33/1. Now he's got the Euro Tour win monkey off his back, he might not tighten up as much when in the mix. My final pick is Sullivan. I took the 20/1 ew with Stan James yesterday, and I've topped up this morning at 18/1 ew and win only. Reason being :- he's nearly twice the price as last week, yes he missed the cut, but he caught the worst of the wind, and when he looked to be struggling to make the cut, he made sure he defo missed it. Imo he's the best player in this weeks field atm.

    In the USA (soz Darty) I'm on Na at 55/1 ew. Good course form, in decent form atm, and this is a short ish hitters week after last weeks slug-fest. For my 2nd pick I've gone back to Spieth, ew and win only 14/1. Shown course form in the past, and would love to see him win before The Masters. 

    Gl all.
  • edited March 2015
    I've added what I'm calling a Joesman1 double.

    I'm sure most have noticed that Neil has been in very impressive form this year, I've been looking through Neil's picks and he has shown a remarkable knack for picking out the right players near the front of the market.

    I know Neil has great knowledge for the game and puts in the time to study, there is always good logic and good reasoning for his picks, where he and I differ is that when he makes his mind up he simply gets the best price available for his player for the week and job done.

    Whereas I tend to skip the market leaders looking for bigger prices and players that might shock and I maybe over analyze things.

    I think I do OK, but last week was a typical example of my down fall, my main picks in the WGPC were all 3 figure prices, I had Simpson finishing 7th at 100/1 and Willet 12th at 150/1.

    Not bad picks, in that I managed to pick the outsiders that played the best, but no returns for 7th and 12th.

    Thankfully after round 3 I backed DJ in running at 6/1 and covered my initial outlay.

    I liked DJ from the start but didn't back him as he was 'only' 20/1.
     
    I think I've been suffering from mug punter syndrome!


    So here's my Joesman1 double for this week:

    Romain Wattel - 25/1, knocking on the door for a while and has been one of the most consistent players on tour over the last 6 months, no course knowledge is the only concern.

    Henrik Stenson - 16/1, top quality player in a weak field this week, first time out last week and played extremely well. He should be able to put his trusty 3 wood to good use this week. Like Wattel, no course knowledge is the only concern.

    Win only on Stenson, Each way single on Wattel and an ew double.


    Still no local at the Tshwane for me, which is nagging away at me, I've been thinking JB Kruger, he has at least one top 5 here on the Sunshine Tour and I noticed he finished well last week, but then again the man in form is tipping Fisher Jr and I can't argue with his reasoning.

    Good Luck All!!!





     
  • edited March 2015
    In Response to Re: Get in the Hole! 2015 Season! (Valspar Championship + Tshwane Open):
    I've added what I'm calling a Joesman1 double. I'm sure most have noticed that Neil has been in very impressive form this year, I've been looking through Neil's picks and he has shown a remarkable knack for picking out the right players near the front of the market. I know Neil has great knowledge for the game and puts in the time to study, there is always good logic and good reasoning for his picks, where he and I differ is that when he makes his mind up he simply gets the best price available for his player for the week and job done. Whereas I tend to skip the market leaders looking for bigger prices and players that might shock and I maybe over analyze things. I think I do OK, but last week was a typical example of my down fall, my main picks in the WGPC were all 3 figure prices, I had Simpson finishing 7th at 100/1 and Willet 12th at 150/1. Not bad picks, in that I managed to pick the outsiders that played the best, but no returns for 7th and 12th. Thankfully after round 3 I backed DJ in running at 6/1 and covered my initial outlay. I liked DJ from the start but didn't back him as he was 'only' 20/1.   I think I've been suffering from mug punter syndrome! So here's my Joesman1 double for this week: Romain Wattel - 25/1, knocking on the door for a while and has been one of the most consistent players on tour over the last 6 months, no course knowledge is the only concern. Henrik Stenson - 16/1,  top quality player in a weak field this week, first time out last week and played extremely well. He should be able to put his trusty 3 wood to good use this week. Like Wattel, no course knowledge is the only concern. Win only on Stenson, Each way single on Wattel and an ew double. Still no local at the Tshwane for me, which is nagging away at me, I've been thinking JB Kruger , he has at least one top 5 here on the Sunshine Tour and I noticed he finished well last week, but then again the man in form is tipping Fisher Jr and I can't argue with his reasoning. Good Luck All!!!  
    Posted by TheDart

    Thanks Jerome, yep running well atm, but form is only tempary as we all know... I wish I had your skill at spotting good value 'in running' bets. U have been very modest in not mentioning u also backed Fisher Jr in running last week at 11/1, - even if it was part fuelled by the ribbing I was giving u for backing the wrong Fisher. 

    After worrying for a while I might miss out on an ew double return last week, I've decided to go for 'Hollywood' again this week. Spieth and Sullivan ew double.

  • edited March 2015
    Jesus you 2, get a room. ;-)

    Good luck
  • edited March 2015
    In Response to Re: Get in the Hole! 2015 Season! (Valspar Championship + Tshwane Open):
    Jesus you 2, get a room. ;-) Good luck
    Posted by FlashFlush
    Thre@some?? It's on my bucket list....
  • edited March 2015
    In Response to Re: Get in the Hole! 2015 Season! (Valspar Championship + Tshwane Open):
    In Response to Re: Get in the Hole! 2015 Season! (Valspar Championship + Tshwane Open) : Thre@some?? It's on my bucket list....
    Posted by joesman1
    Now you're talking!

    In other news. Sterne is a non-runner, so that's 1 winner for me.
  • edited March 2015
    Wooooah steady on lads!

    You'll never get me to a live event at this rate!

    Shocking start for me in Africa, meant I finally went local and added JB Kruger at 70/1 ew and added an ew double with Martin Laird at 50/1.

    The mug punter in me lives on ;)
  • edited March 2015
    In Response to Re: Get in the Hole! 2015 Season! (Phoenix Open + Dubai Classic):
    In early this week to take the bits of Grillo @ 40/1 ew.... No doubt I'll follow it up with some others. Put an ew Lucky 15 on for the majors also today:- Spieth:- The Masters 16/1 Victor:- The Open 66/1 J Walker:- US Open 50/1 DJ:- USPGA 33/1 And topped up the bet on Victor for The Open, still @ 66/1- Ill join Terry on his boat if they all come in. Update:- The problem of playing poker in a foreign country is that u have too much time on your hands. Farmers Weekly  in the USA (boringly I know, but 1st tournie this year last week, and started to get his eye in during the final round, and showed back end of last year that he's the only player who can match Rory) Spieth 16/1 for a bit (stingy bookies) more @ 14/1 ew. Also ew double with Grillo 14/1 @ 33/1. (See below for reasoning why 16/-14/1 big value this week ala Rory last week) Finally, also backed Spieth ew @ 16/1 for The Masters. I fully believe by tee off time he'll be a clear 2nd fav 10-12/1 ish. 
    Posted by joesman1
    What price Walker this coming week??  Don't peak too soon lads 
  • edited March 2015
    Jeez the sharks were out early this week. I'm all over Henrik after his good showing the past two weeks, I think he's due. I could only gets bit on @ 14/1 this morning, the rest @ 12/1 ew. More to follow.....

    As much as I'm not a fan of him, (and I can't remember the last time I backed him) course form dictates Keegan Bradley must be in any staking plan, ew @ 35/1 Bet365. Then I'm going oriental. A little tickle on Ryo Ishikawa ew @ 275/1 Bet365, and same with Seung-Yul Noh ew @ 175/1 Skybet. 

    Not interested in Portugal as its not on the TV. Hopefully be cheering Henrik home from Malta come Sunday night.

    Gl all

    Edit:- I've decided 28/1 about Kevin Phelan is too big in a field of hackers.... So Phelan ew it is. 
  • edited March 2015
    Well I was just coming on to say I'll be the first with my picks, but Neil has beaten me to it.

    Madeira

    Joakim Lagergren - 33/1

    Carlos Pigem - 40/1

    Arnold Palmer 

    Henrik Stenson - 11/1

    Harris English - 33/1
  • edited March 2015
    The last time I saw money like this for Stenson (14/1-9/1) was in Dubai in November.... Same result please Henrik.


    Edit:- And the price keeps dropping.. 8/1 now and The Racing Post tips him up and suggest 4 points win only!! Over to u Henrik. 
  • edited March 2015

    Not so much time this week and originally thought I'd missed the 'value' on Henrik Stenson so backed him without Rory at 9/1, which doesn't look so bad now.

    Made it a Swedish double with Johan Edfors at 66/1.

    Two completely different markets this week, one with 3 players priced 10/1 and less, the other event where the favorites opened at 25/1.

    Other picks for the week are:

    Arnold Palmer

    Harris English - 35/1
    Kevin Na - 45/1
    Webb Simpson - 55/1
    Danny Willett - 125/1


    Madeira Open

    Kenneth Ferrie - 100/1
    Gareth Maybin - 66/1
    Carlos De Moral - 55/1
    Bradley Dredge - 28/1


    Good Luck All!

  • edited March 2015
    No clue how Stenson managed to lose that! What an absolute shocker he's had there.
  • edited March 2015
    In Response to Re: Get in the Hole! 2015 Season! (Arnold Palmer + Madeira Open):
    No clue how Stenson managed to lose that! What an absolute shocker he's had there.
    Posted by FlashFlush

    Totally shocking from the 'Ice Man' there Charles. Esp' his three putts on the Par 5 16th. Having us three, and a few of my mates who joined in on my run good atm, was obv' far too much weight for his shoulders. 
  • edited March 2015
    In first this week, although I bet Mr Strike will have 1 of my Morocco picks.

    Trophee Hassan II

    David Horsey - 33/1 - Seems to love this course and with a T10 last time out at the Tshwane Open, I feel he's setting up for a big week.

    Paul Waring - 50/1 - Seems to be one of those players that if he doesn't miss the CUT he gets a top 20 finish. The last 2 years at this event have been the latter for him. T13 at the Joburg open last time out and a T3 a few weeks before that. Surely going to get his first win soon.

    Jorge Campillo - 100/1 - There always tends to be a Spaniard or 2 contending in this event, and apart from his missed CUT at the Tshwarne, Jorge is showing some good form. His results have been improving here year on year, and with T11 last year I think 100/1 is too big.

    Valero Texas Open

    Charley Hoffman - 50/1 - Nobody has better form here than Charley. Although his current form isn't ideal, he has still done enough to be 12th in the Fedex race, and last week shows if you love a certain course then form is irrelevant.

    Matt Kuchar - 25/1 -  Had a quiet but solid start to the year. Looking back through the years, that seems to be a regular trend of his, and he comes alive at this stage of the year ready for the Masters. 4th here last year. Would be surprised to see him not contending.
  • edited March 2015
    Hi Charles yep I looked at Horsey, as this is DEFO a horsey for coursey course. But I backed him in running the other week, and when he hit the front he played very poorly, so I'm leaving him alone, good luck to u with him though.

    I might sound a bit repetitive here, but my 1st bet is Sullivan, and I took the early 28/1 ew with Stan James as its out of line. I'm likening this to the Joburg Open the other week. He finished 5th there last year, then won this year. Here, he came 2nd last year when still getting his eye in on the tour, so I expect him to kick on from it this year. Yep he'd gone off the boil his last two outings. But he'd played many weeks on the trot, and was missing his new born. After two weeks rest and changing nappies, I think he'll be raring to go. - A VERY solid pick imo this week. My 2nd choice is Grillo @ 25/1 ew. His one outing here resulted in a joint 11th place two years ago. A better player now who has had a few weeks away from the tour, he won't be far away. I'll come back later in the week with a 'rag' or two.
  • edited March 2015
    Stan James really don't mess about. Forget chopping him to 25 or 22/1.... Nooooo 20/1 it is 
  • edited March 2015
    Meanwhile over The Pond, and thinking back to my message last week, I've backed Walker ew @ 25/1 with Boylesports, and also on Zach Johnson ew @ 28/1 (I won't touch Betfred who are a standout 35/1) who showed some form over the weekend. I'll DEFO be backing a Texan before tee off time. 

    GL all

    Edit:- Found my Texan.... Tried my best leaving him alone, but cannot, but also not prepared to back him at 8/1. At the end of the day, he's by far the most likely winner. Course form last year, massively in form this year. Went back to back pre Xmas. Having next week off so can focus on this week before The Masters. But as I said, didn't fancy 8/1 for some reason, even though he's only 4 points bigger for The Masters. So I'm on him @ 79/1. The only problem being that the following have to win too:- Triple Dip, Seven Nation Army, Tijan, Watersmeet, Aussies to beat India tomoz. Then finally Spieth. 

    Gl me as I'll need it. 
  • edited March 2015
    In recent weeks Kevin Na and Harris English have given me a good run for my money, but ultimately its the bookies that have run away with my money.

    I can't make up my mind as to if I should keep the faith, first reaction has been to look elsewhere.

    Valero Texas Open

    Matt Jones - 50/1,
    his last 3 tournaments suggest he's a man in form. I haven't seen too much golf recently but watch last weeks final round and thought Matt Jones hit some great golf shots (apart from the one where he put it in that garden for an OB and said a naughty word that Mark Roe had to apologize to us for hearing it).
    Won the Houston Open in Texas last year, could be about to win his second event in Texas.

    Martin Laird - 45/1, won this event 2 years ago and has been playing very well recently.

    Kevin Chappell -125/1, I had a look at the picks on here 12 months ago and both Neil and I backed Chappell in this event last year at 40/1 and 50/1 (I got the 50/1). Not that it mattered as Chappell missed the cut.

    Chappell has missed the last 3 cuts, however he missed 3 cuts before this event in 2011 and went on to finish 2nd.

    I wrote last year that the course should suit his game and stats, no time for studying this year, so I'll take me word for it and give Chappell another chance.



    I don't go back over the years on this thread too often, but interestingly ( for me anyway), was that I came across Splashies update to the thread title naming my turbo win in the main, exactly 12 months ago.

    As some golfers tend to play well at the same time of year, I'm off to see if I can duplicate that tendency on the poker tables and run into form or luck, just as I did 12 months ago and see if I can win the Turbo main again.

    EDIT: Came 14th in the Main Turbo last night, probably my best result in that even since I won it 12 months ago.

    Good Luck me and all!!!
  • edited March 2015
    In Response to Re: Get in the Hole! 2015 Season! (Arnold Palmer + Madeira Open):
    Meanwhile over The Pond, and thinking back to my message last week, I've backed Walker ew @ 25/1 with Boylesports, and also on Zach Johnson ew @ 28/1 (I won't touch Betfred who are a standout 35/1) who showed some form over the weekend. I'll DEFO be backing a Texan before tee off time.  GL all Edit:- Found my Texan.... Tried my best leaving him alone, but cannot, but also not prepared to back him at 8/1. At the end of the day, he's by far the most likely winner. Course form last year, massively in form this year. Went back to back pre Xmas. Having next week off so can focus on this week before The Masters. But as I said, didn't fancy 8/1 for some reason, even though he's only 4 points bigger for The Masters. So I'm on him @ 79/1. The only problem being that the following have to win too:- Triple Dip, Seven Nation Army, Tijan, Watersmeet, Aussies to beat India tomoz. Then finally Spieth.  Gl me as I'll need it. 
    Posted by joesman1
    Lol, wondered if you would go for Spieth again and why not!

    Those triple dip sandwiches on Man v Food always look mouth watering, so good luck with that.

    By the way your Texan in this event last year was Ryan Palmer......................just saying.

  • edited March 2015
    Trophee Hassan II

    At the beginning of the year I looked at this schedule and picked this event out as the most likely for Matthew Baldwin to get his first win.

    Of course I've thrown a few quid away on Baldwin already this year, but this was always THE event, so I'm sticking to that at 100/1.

    In fact in for a penny in for a pound on Matthew Baldwin this week;

    Outright - 100/1 ew
    FRL - 80/1 ew
    Top Englishman 25/1 ew
    Top 10 - 8/1

    The backup plan is:

    Marcel Siem - 25/1, previous winner and looked good at the WGC a few weeks back.

    Pablo Larrzabal - 30/1, good course form.

    Byeong Hun An - 45/1, some excellent results this year and I feel this course and conditions should suit his game.
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