Rather ironic that you blame bad beats and coolers for not winning more, yet you win a £61 pot through coolering some other chap. Posted by calcalfold
Lol well that's not irony but yeah that's why I posted that and said it was to show that it wasn't just one way traffic. I could post hands like raising AT getting called by QJ and it coming AKT, or getting it in pre AK v AJ and losing etc but it's boring. Only posted that one cos it's just brutal.
I got coolered and bad beat more than I dished it out. Don't get me wrong I'm happy with the result, it's always good to have a winning session despite variance kicking you in the chops.
Decided to play the main and mini tonight for a change.
Did pretty rubbish in the Mini, yoyo'd my stack up and down a bit a few times by winning a race/losing a race/winning a race/losing a race etc. Never really got going, think my high point was 5k and that was when I took my first and only bounty. Eventually bust jamming KJs over a minraise and not getting there V 22. So got 1 head for £2.46
Did a bit better in the Main, got off to a half decent start then just ploughed on nicking small pots here and there along with winning my 70/30s and the like.
Thought I'd post the only hand that was out of the norm and wasn't just blind steal, value bet, value bet blah blah.
Obv never folding Q9o in the CO at this stage. Float the flop cos there are just so few 7x or OPs in his range and I don't think he'd donkbet them anyway so think it's smaller PPs and FDs. Blank turn and his bet gets weaker (smaller). Blank river (relative to his range) and again an even weaker bet, his line just makes no sense to have any proper hand of value, so I ship
Player
Action
Cards
Amount
Pot
Balance
sparks23
Small blind
100.00
100.00
5270.00
Wrighty24
Big blind
200.00
300.00
3565.00
Your hole cards
Q
9
bromley04
Fold
andrew1947
Fold
Lambert180
Raise
400.00
700.00
6597.50
oceans0007
Fold
sparks23
Call
300.00
1000.00
4970.00
Wrighty24
Call
200.00
1200.00
3365.00
Flop
2
7
7
sparks23
Bet
600.00
1800.00
4370.00
Wrighty24
Fold
Lambert180
Call
600.00
2400.00
5997.50
Turn
5
sparks23
Bet
800.00
3200.00
3570.00
Lambert180
Call
800.00
4000.00
5197.50
River
K
sparks23
Bet
1000.00
5000.00
2570.00
Lambert180
All-in
5197.50
10197.50
0.00
sparks23
Fold
Lambert180
Show
Q
9
Lambert180
Win
6000.00
6000.00
Lambert180
Return
4197.50
0.00
10197.50
I've posted the following hand on the show thread (although doubt they're gonna show it now) which is the one that left me with a bowl in the ME. Not sure what I think about it still, villian is gonna be shoving ridic wide with 6xBB on the BTN and I've seen him shove some real trash in previous orbits. I know I'm never gonna be in THAT great shape unless he shows up with a weaker Kx or weaker Tx but with stacks so shallow, I think I had to go for it here. Winning the pot would make me CL with 21 left, but twas not to be...
Player
Action
Cards
Amount
Pot
Balance
THEROCK573
Small blind
3000.00
3000.00
37959.23
Lambert180
Big blind
6000.00
9000.00
41445.79
Your hole cards
K
10
pttech
Fold
wason06
Fold
SHOGUNS
All-in
36714.00
45714.00
0.00
THEROCK573
Fold
Lambert180
Call
30714.00
76428.00
10731.79
Lambert180
Show
K
10
SHOGUNS
Show
5
5
Flop
8
Q
A
Turn
Q
River
7
SHOGUNS
Win
Two Pairs, Queens and 5s
76428.00
76428.00
Ended up having to stick the rest of my chips in with K8 in the next hand and was flopped almost dead by AJ on AJx to bust 21st. Still please to have cashed and made a small profit on the night. You sure gotta run mighty good in that MTT to go deep.
Lambert180 0 21 £29.17
So £16.50 of BIs and £31.63 worth of cashes makes for a small profit of £15.30
Thanks for the kind words Trev This seems life a lifetime ago. You're at the 6max, right Trev? I hope you make it too Geldy, was good fun sharing a table with you at SPT Brum, although I remember you saying it's tricky making weekend commitments. Posted by Lambert180
Indeed it was, although after your sucessful bluff it was all downhill for me
Family are travelling, so I get to go
Satted in tonight, and with my other cashes in the SPT semi the weekend is all paid for - so I'll be freerolling!
KT vs 55, think I wait for a better spot, if we can have another 10BB behindin the turbo I'm happier calling. Also prob call if he's shoved from SB to our BB.
Flop is great given we've nit hit yet, turn is fantastic, shame you missed all 16 outs on the river!
KT vs 55, think I wait for a better spot, if we can have another 10BB behindin the turbo I'm happier calling. Also prob call if he's shoved from SB to our BB. Flop is great given we've nit hit yet, turn is fantastic, shame you missed all 16 outs on the river! Posted by bbMike
Well yeah another 10xBB behind would be nice lol but this turbo is stupidly short stacked. Another 10xBB would give me 100k and not a single player had close to 100k at this point. As I say, winning this pot makes me CL, so I'd be CL despite only having like 13xBB lol.... that's what it's like.
But yeah saw flop and thought 'mmm that's pretty much as good as it gets without hitting', turn comes and I think 'boom great turn, how can I not win this now?!'... sigh lol.
Got another cash session in tonight. 6tabling just 20NL this time for I think just shy of 4 hours. Maybe it's just variance as it is only a sample size of like 12 hours worth of 6tabling but 20NL just seems SO much softer than 30NL, it probably helps that there are so many more tables running and the player pool is so much more diverse than 30NL but there just seem to be so many people happy to stack off light.
Having said that, it was a very modest winning session tonight cos I played the first hour of the session like a complete donkey so spent the next 3 hours playing catch up.
Here's a few examples of how badly I played....
After the flop raise I think shoving the river is just SO bad. It might even be able to fold tbh, but should never be putting in any more money than a call
Player
Action
Cards
Amount
Pot
Balance
Lambert180
Small blind
£0.10
£0.10
£20.53
Z
Big blind
£0.20
£0.30
£18.49
Your hole cards
A
A
Lambert180
Raise
£0.50
£0.80
£20.03
Z
Call
£0.40
£1.20
£18.09
Flop
7
3
10
Z
Check
Lambert180
Bet
£0.85
£2.05
£19.18
Z
Raise
£1.70
£3.75
£16.39
Lambert180
Call
£0.85
£4.60
£18.33
Turn
K
Z
Bet
£2.00
£6.60
£14.39
Lambert180
Call
£2.00
£8.60
£16.33
River
2
Z
Bet
£4.30
£12.90
£10.09
Lambert180
All-in
£16.33
£29.23
£0.00
Z
All-in
£10.09
£39.32
£0.00
Lambert180
Unmatched bet
£1.94
£37.38
£1.94
Lambert180
Show
A
A
Z
Show
10
7
Z
Win
Two Pairs, 10s and 7s
£36.38
£36.38
This hand I was massively frustrated with myself cos I used the full time bar, and during them 10 seconds I spent the whole time saying 'ffs, it's a boat, it's a boat'. This is definitely a fold no questions.
Player
Action
Cards
Amount
Pot
Balance
X
Small blind
£0.10
£0.10
£19.02
Lambert180
Big blind
£0.20
£0.30
£29.83
Your hole cards
7
6
BitOfLuck9
Fold
BarryQueen
Fold
turbo2
Fold
tw33ks
Fold
X
Raise
£0.60
£0.90
£18.42
Lambert180
Call
£0.50
£1.40
£29.33
Flop
10
2
3
X
Bet
£0.80
£2.20
£17.62
Lambert180
Call
£0.80
£3.00
£28.53
Turn
9
X
Check
Lambert180
Bet
£1.50
£4.50
£27.03
X
Call
£1.50
£6.00
£16.12
River
9
X
Check
Lambert180
Bet
£3.15
£9.15
£23.88
X
All-in
£16.12
£25.27
£0.00
Lambert180
Call
£12.97
£38.24
£10.91
X
Show
10
10
Lambert180
Show
7
6
X
Win
Full House, 10s and 9s
£36.44
£36.44
This is almost definitely the worst call of the night... I really should have shoved the turn in which case it's just a bad beat, again I was using the time bar up thinking 'shove or flat, shove or flat', I went with flat in the end. Once I'd done that, the river is the easiest fold in the world cos his ship is just Qx 100% of the time.
Player
Action
Cards
Amount
Pot
Balance
Y
Small blind
£0.10
£0.10
£19.43
ssbssb
Big blind
£0.20
£0.30
£9.14
Your hole cards
5
5
VODKALEE
Fold
Lambert180
Raise
£0.60
£0.90
£20.76
weedgi
Fold
Y
Raise
£1.70
£2.60
£17.73
ssbssb
Fold
Lambert180
Call
£1.20
£3.80
£19.56
Flop
4
5
Q
Y
Bet
£1.90
£5.70
£15.83
Lambert180
Call
£1.90
£7.60
£17.66
Turn
Q
Y
Bet
£3.80
£11.40
£12.03
Lambert180
Call
£3.80
£15.20
£13.86
River
4
Y
All-in
£12.03
£27.23
£0.00
Lambert180
Call
£12.03
£39.26
£1.83
Y
Show
Q
A
Lambert180
Show
5
5
Y
Win
Full House, Queens and 4s
£37.46
£37.46
For the purpose of balance, I gotta at least show one hand where I won! How's this for a cooler of a flop and a pretty sweet turn card...
Player
Action
Cards
Amount
Pot
Balance
Frogmella
Small blind
£0.10
£0.10
£16.21
punkasmuck
Big blind
£0.20
£0.30
£21.29
Your hole cards
A
K
Lambert180
Raise
£0.60
£0.90
£39.87
A
Call
£0.60
£1.50
£19.09
wocky72
Fold
cleverkev
Fold
Frogmella
Fold
punkasmuck
Fold
Flop
10
J
K
Lambert180
Bet
£1.00
£2.50
£38.87
A
Raise
£3.63
£6.13
£15.46
Lambert180
All-in
£38.87
£45.00
£0.00
A
All-in
£15.46
£60.46
£0.00
Lambert180
Unmatched bet
£20.78
£39.68
£20.78
Lambert180
Show
A
K
A
Show
J
J
Turn
Q
River
4
Lambert180
Win
Royal Flush
£37.88
£58.66
So I basically gifted away 3 BIs myself there but still managed to come away with a small profit of £14.49. It's really frustrating to look at it that way, cos if I'm really on my A-game I probably come away £40-£50 better off but yeh, always got to stay focussed.
All them terrible hands came at the start of the session so started off in a bit of a hole and really happy to have turned it round.
Yes I was going to say about hand 1. If you are not 3betting (albeit folding to 4b) on the flop. Nor raising the turn, why does the river become a shove?
That said, you have already considred this, so meh.
67. might fold with reads, perhaps even without. Only beating A9 imo on the river.
AA river shove is the worst play I've ever seen you make. And I remember that comedy overjam you made v me in a £3r speed once. It's worse than that! :P Fold 55 to 3b pre, dnt set mine there. nh royal flush. & nice results recently. GL this weekend. Still time to sell me 5% Get your money back from the AA spew in 1 go! ? ^^^^^ Posted by DOHHHHHHH
Lol
What was the comedy overjam I did V you, I don't remember it?
Wasn't gonna play tonight but I'm a sucker for a bit of value so played a freeroll that was going, £200 GTD with only 102 runners.
Lambert180
0
5
£14.40
Exit hand on the FT is a bit bleurgh but meh, I guess you can equally say it's lucky to outflop QQ with KJ in the first place... but then I wouldn't have got it in on a junk flop would I
Player
Action
Cards
Amount
Pot
Balance
Mclovin01
Small blind
600.00
600.00
59235.21
roy4amy
Big blind
1200.00
1800.00
50556.49
Your hole cards
K
J
wolvercat
Fold
zDelboy
Fold
Lambert180
Raise
2400.00
4200.00
29003.00
Mclovin01
Fold
roy4amy
Raise
2400.00
6600.00
48156.49
Lambert180
Call
1200.00
7800.00
27803.00
Flop
4
K
J
roy4amy
Bet
7800.00
15600.00
40356.49
Lambert180
All-in
27803.00
43403.00
0.00
roy4amy
Call
20003.00
63406.00
20353.49
roy4amy
Show
Q
Q
Lambert180
Show
K
J
Turn
2
River
8
roy4amy
Win
Flush to the King
63406.00
83759.49
Anyway, 14 of them pound things for free, so can't be bad.
How u get the password then ? i remember i got slated for getting a password a while back and u go n play it find it funny Posted by IDONKCALLU
Come on donk sort it out, you cant have random pops at people who may have been given the password. Your a gooner and a good fellow, but you do leave yourself open to windups. This is just another example.
Paul nice turnaround, you must be feeling the mojo coming back right now!
sort it out ???? i had about 20 people on the poker forums giving me stick about getting a password m8 including paul so no i wnt let it lie at all Posted by IDONKCALLU
I don't usually get involved in all this gripe but get yourself on a spt and meet people instead of moaning all the time
i go to casino in brighton all the time and meet people no need to go to a spt shawsok Posted by IDONKCALLU
For fun?
Sigh Donk, just let your hair down and throw yourself in there... metaphorically I mean. Pretty much every single person on the forum is super friendly, just join in, come down for a pint, a side event, a laugh, whatever
In Response to Re: Lambert180 ----- 20NL to 50NL ----- Target = 50BIs for 50NL by the end of 2013 ----- : For fun? Sigh Donk, just let your hair down and throw yourself in there... metaphorically I mean. Pretty much every single person on the forum is super friendly, just join in, come down for a pint, a side event, a laugh, whatever Posted by Lambert180
I dont know why you carry on trying to bother with this guy tbh
I'm not having a go, it's a genuine question... why are you back then?
Like why are you gonna come back to play and why are you back on the forum when you seem to have a chip on your shoulder?
We know loads of people disagreed with what you did, but no-one else is going on about it, everyone has let it drop. Just do the same, fresh start and all that, otherwise your odds on to have left the forum again within a couple of weeks.
sorry to derail yr awsome thread but its obvious he doesnt get any love in the "real" world so him coming back & leaving again every 2 weeks etc...... is his way of feeling worthwhile, espesh when peeps keep welcoming him back with open arms, its time he grew some balls & started acting his age
Meh, what you wanna do is up to you Donk, but if you're gonna just whinge can you do it somewhere other than my diary lol. Make your own/revive the one you had.
Meant to say from my last cash session, I was taking notes in a notepad document of anything that I thought may be potential leaks and I came across two which I'll try to eradicate...
1) It might be fine but I seem to be peeling loads of 3bets and just making the excuse 'well I'm IP so I can', even when I'm probably peeling V ranges that have me destroyed. Dunno, I'll try to find some examples of potentially questionable peels and see what people think.
2) I'm overbet jamming too many rivers. We're not talking betting X with bluffs and overbet shipping for value, that would be lolbad, I'm still overbet shipping a good (I think) % of the time. But I just think I'm using it in too many spots where the board texture and opponents ranges just aren't strong enough to be able to ever call. Again might try to find some examples.
Can I/Should I fold here to the 3bet? Getting a lovely price with a sexy hand IP, I know X is only like 50xBB deep, but DTM isn't....
FWIW, these hands am gonna post could be winners or losers but obv the result is irrelevant (just so you know I aint just posting losing hands where I'm owned by AA or w/e)
Comments
I got coolered and bad beat more than I dished it out. Don't get me wrong I'm happy with the result, it's always good to have a winning session despite variance kicking you in the chops.
Did pretty rubbish in the Mini, yoyo'd my stack up and down a bit a few times by winning a race/losing a race/winning a race/losing a race etc. Never really got going, think my high point was 5k and that was when I took my first and only bounty. Eventually bust jamming KJs over a minraise and not getting there V 22. So got 1 head for £2.46
Did a bit better in the Main, got off to a half decent start then just ploughed on nicking small pots here and there along with winning my 70/30s and the like.
Thought I'd post the only hand that was out of the norm and wasn't just blind steal, value bet, value bet blah blah.
Obv never folding Q9o in the CO at this stage. Float the flop cos there are just so few 7x or OPs in his range and I don't think he'd donkbet them anyway so think it's smaller PPs and FDs. Blank turn and his bet gets weaker (smaller). Blank river (relative to his range) and again an even weaker bet, his line just makes no sense to have any proper hand of value, so I ship
Lambert180 0 21 £29.17
So £16.50 of BIs and £31.63 worth of cashes makes for a small profit of £15.30
Bankroll: £1,048.64
Poker Points: 1737 (£17.37)
Flop is great given we've nit hit yet, turn is fantastic, shame you missed all 16 outs on the river!
But yeah saw flop and thought 'mmm that's pretty much as good as it gets without hitting', turn comes and I think 'boom great turn, how can I not win this now?!'... sigh lol.
Cheers Geldy, look forward to seeing you there.
Having said that, it was a very modest winning session tonight cos I played the first hour of the session like a complete donkey so spent the next 3 hours playing catch up.
Here's a few examples of how badly I played....
After the flop raise I think shoving the river is just SO bad. It might even be able to fold tbh, but should never be putting in any more money than a call
All them terrible hands came at the start of the session so started off in a bit of a hole and really happy to have turned it round.
Bankroll: £1,063.13
Poker Points: 2010 (£20.10)
That said, you have already considred this, so meh.
67. might fold with reads, perhaps even without. Only beating A9 imo on the river.
AKs - Boom!
What was the comedy overjam I did V you, I don't remember it?
Bankroll: £1,077.53
Poker Points: 2010 (£20.10)
Cheers Gooner, definitely feeling better about my game, but that's always the way when you aint running bad eh
Sigh Donk, just let your hair down and throw yourself in there... metaphorically I mean. Pretty much every single person on the forum is super friendly, just join in, come down for a pint, a side event, a laugh, whatever
Like why are you gonna come back to play and why are you back on the forum when you seem to have a chip on your shoulder?
We know loads of people disagreed with what you did, but no-one else is going on about it, everyone has let it drop. Just do the same, fresh start and all that, otherwise your odds on to have left the forum again within a couple of weeks.
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Meant to say from my last cash session, I was taking notes in a notepad document of anything that I thought may be potential leaks and I came across two which I'll try to eradicate...
1) It might be fine but I seem to be peeling loads of 3bets and just making the excuse 'well I'm IP so I can', even when I'm probably peeling V ranges that have me destroyed. Dunno, I'll try to find some examples of potentially questionable peels and see what people think.
2) I'm overbet jamming too many rivers. We're not talking betting X with bluffs and overbet shipping for value, that would be lolbad, I'm still overbet shipping a good (I think) % of the time. But I just think I'm using it in too many spots where the board texture and opponents ranges just aren't strong enough to be able to ever call. Again might try to find some examples.
FWIW, these hands am gonna post could be winners or losers but obv the result is irrelevant (just so you know I aint just posting losing hands where I'm owned by AA or w/e)